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    who do you all think the best artist during the time periods listed below

    1989-1992
    1993-1996
    1997-2000
    2001-2003
    2004-2007

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirates dc View Post
    who do you all think the best artist during the time periods listed below

    1989-1992
    1993-1996
    1997-2000
    2001-2003
    2004-2007
    Damn. I can't say for those exact periods. I do know that I listened to the most Hip-Hop during 1992-1996.

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    1989-1992= ice cube
    1993-1996= umm pac of course
    1997-2000= mm id have to say cash money records/ no limit were d shit
    2001-2003= rap stared turning into crap but at this time i listened to alot of eminem
    2004-2007= rap turned to crap

    the new paul wall album has renewed my faith in the whole texas rapper thing!
    Last edited by pirates dc; 19th-April-2007 at 16:24.

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    http://rockthebells.net

    That's right guys, I have tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirates dc View Post
    1989-1992= ice cube
    1993-1996= umm pac of course
    1997-2000= mm id have to say cash money records/ no limit were d shit
    2001-2003= rap stared turning into crap but at this time i listened to alot of eminem
    2004-2007= rap turned to crap

    the new paul wall album has renewed my faith in the whole texas rapper thing!
    Can you NEVER write a list again? KTHX.
    There is SO much wrong with that list its not funny.
    You have no grasp of rap do you? Ice Cube? OMFG Pac over Biggie smalls :X CASH MONEY FFS Burn every rap CD you own please.

    89-92: Eric B and Rakim. (Rap ledgends.)
    93-96: Notorious B.I.G. (You are a FUCKING IDIOT for picking 2Pac over Biggie smalls.)
    97-00: Jay Z. (Someone had to pick up the crown)
    01-03: Jay Z. (Purely for the fact there is no good artists out. 50 cent was okay, but i would not call him a great artist of the time, he was just hot then and there.)
    04-07: Game. (For Nas to "hand down" the peoples crown to Game, AFTER saying Hip Hop is dead.)

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    Here we go.... JAY Z SUCKS AND NAS WAS NEVER THE KING TO HAND THE CROWN DOWN TO THE GAME. The game is a great gangsta rapper but he is not the greatest. Nowadays the unsigned underground rappers rule the streets. When I hit the mall I dont go to the record stores to by "mainstream rapper x's" shit I go strait to the little tiny shop in the back of the mall where they sell the underground/local shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirates dc View Post
    Here we go.... JAY Z SUCKS AND NAS WAS NEVER THE KING TO HAND THE CROWN DOWN TO THE GAME. The game is a great gangsta rapper but he is not the greatest. Nowadays the unsigned underground rappers rule the streets. When I hit the mall I dont go to the record stores to by "mainstream rapper x's" shit I go strait to the little tiny shop in the back of the mall where they sell the underground/local shit
    You have proven you have no musical taste.
    Now you are goin to post that Jay Z and Nas aint the kings of rap? Your brain must be fried. Where do you think the rap game has been held for the last 10 years? East coast, and who are the top selling artists on the East coast? Jay Z and Nas. Who sold out MSG in one hour? Jay Z.
    You can not sit there and tell me Jay Z or Nas dont have the crown. Jay Z retired, it was handed to Nas.
    Even on diss tracks AGAINST Jay Z, people say his the King.
    Now go back to your shitty chopped and screwed music and let people with a sense of lyrical style talk KTHX.

    So your saying Yuckmouth is the greatest artist of 07 then?
    You sit there and you go blah blah blah Jay Z sucks blah blah blah Nas sucks blah blah blah I hit the underground rappers i keepz it real.
    You "top artist" list had some of the most mainstream artists of the era.... and your telling you go for the underground rappers? You just said you got the paul wall CD, i mean how are you keeping it real and im not?

    I was banging Red Cafe, Saigon, Pap, Jeezy, tru LIFE before anyone knew about them.
    I had Buddens and Game CD's before they were signed.

    Here if you want underground:
    01-03: Saigon, Jadakiss.
    04-07: Juice, Tru LIFE, Red Cafe.

    Whos the greatest for 04-07? You didnt seem to put anyone down, you said rap sucks, well um if i remeber right the "in" rap music at the moment is Dirty south, are you trying to imply that the Dirty South is crap? I mean if its so good, how come you didnt name anyone?

    At 26 years old, Jayceon Taylor become a rap legend be releasing a track called "300 bars" which EVERY MAG said was one of the top ten diss tracks of all time.
    Other tracks that were up there:
    Ether - Nas.
    Blueprint 2 - Jay Z.
    Who shot ya - Biggie Smalls.

    OH SHIT, is that Jay Z and Nas, but hold up Pirates DC said they were shit, nah he cant be right, i mean what would mags like XXL and The Source know about rap.

    All you got in reply to me was "Jay Z and Nas are shit" tell you what your opinion is shit.
    Your opinion < Hip Hop mags/The people that buy their CD's

    How about you go slow some music down k.
    Oh wait great line "I slow the music down some dumb *****s can understand me better" Think about it, while i sit here with my New York state of mind.

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    I must agree with Jase. Jay-Z was the best. But I only say that because I'm bias, and because I'm from New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirates dc View Post
    When I hit the mall I dont go to the record stores to by "mainstream rapper x's" shit I go strait to the little tiny shop in the back of the mall where they sell the underground/local shit
    You mean the guys that only talk about how many people they kill, how much bling they have, and how badass they are? Just to throw this out there, most of those guys are fucking pussies. Thanks for the laughs pirates.
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    TIMBALAND IS TEH GREATEST!!!!!




    Sorry, I had to get that out of my system.

    09. Timbaland - [Presents: Shock Value (Bonus Tracks) CD1 #09] Fantasy (Feat. Money)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    I must agree with Jase. Jay-Z was the best. But I only say that because I'm bias, and because I'm from New York.
    Im not even going to read what jase said but i googled jay z sucks and found this info on a site

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    Staff Top 10
    Top Ten Reasons Why Jay-Z Sucks



    shawn Carter? Don’t you just love him? Of course you do, you like both kinds of music: indie and Jay-Z. We don’t like him. His (completely disingenuous) retirement hasn’t seen him spend any less time being annoying and omnipresent. Here’s 10 problems we have with him (and an Annie sample ain’t one).

    1. Jay Z is Fugly
    Rappers aren’t the most attractive of people. The very fact that Andre 3000, who to all intents and purposes looks like one of the chess club from Saved By The Bell, passes as manpretty in the world of hip-hop should tell you all you need to know. However, in a field where the competition consists of the horse-faced one from the Black Eyed Peas and the entire roster of Def Jux, Jay-Z still stands out as a spectacularly ugly man. He permanently looks like he’s pressing his face against a sheet of plate glass. He so ugly, when he goes into the bank, they turn the cameras off.

    2. Beyonce is a rubbish beard
    Okay, so you pick a name that is one consonant away from Gay-Z. You put a kick-me sign on your own back with "Izzo (H.O.V.A.)" so large even Nas can see it. And you think the best way of quelling the rumours is by dating someone who is forbidden to have sex with you by God? Smart move, Jay! No wonder "Bonnie And Clyde 03" was so unconvincing. Still, at least it provides cheap, yet wholesome, fun by allowing you to set up your own When Will Jay-Z Come Out pool with your friends.

    My money's on 2009, just enough time for his second comeback to fizzle out.

    3. Roc-A-Fella has launched its own brand of whiskey.
    Because he ran out of rhymes for Cristal, obviously, or he ran out of things to namecheck. Or just possibly because he heard that Victoria Beckham swills Cristal, and as such it is no longer cool and trendy for serious rap types. Victoria Beckham is also a better rapper than Jay-Z. Maybe it's an attempt to get back to his street roots, by drinking the same beverage that people on the street actually drink. Well done, Jay-Z!

    4. The easily-impressed Prince Charles was not impressed
    When meeting Jay-Z, The Big Ear Man, who would obviously have a fine ear for a tune just said "Hi".



    Far from being just a slur at the nouveau-riche Mr Carter, Prince Charles was making it quite clear that he prefers Atomic Kitten, and so should you.



    He even prefers Hear’Say.



    5. Jay-Z ringing Nas’ doorbell and then running away
    It’s received rap wisdom that his feud with Jay-Z lit a spark under Nas, inspiring him to his current levels of recorded output. Thus, “I Can” is entirely Jay-Z’s fault.

    6. He practically invented the superfluous guest verse.
    Case in point: Mariah Carey's "Heartbreaker". A song all about how some dude has broken M's heart and left her feeling all shit. And who pops up in the middle? Why, Jay-Z, to whinge about some wailing bint who was too clingy and keeps whingeing about him being a heartbreaker. Way to disrupt continuity! And as for "Crazy In Love", where Jay, convinced of his greatness despite all evidence to the contrary, decides that talking over the horn sample actually makes him the star attraction.

    Beyonce: I am in love with my boyfriend, he's great.
    Jay-Z: Hi. I'm rich.

    Grrrr. Particularly unforgivable for giving the idea to Ghostface Killa and that twerp that did the rap in the middle of Kelis's "Good Stuff".

    7. He has the worst white fans of any rapper
    Now that the Beastie Boys are all in the severe stages of senile dementia, “99 Problems” has become the default “I am now ending the rap section of my set and am entering the guitar section” choice for certain DJs. I once heard a student bar DJ mix from “99 Problems” into Razorlight, whilst saying “the best of American hip-hop, and now the best of British indie”, and I wanted to cry, I really did.

    8. He isn’t really that popular outside of America
    I have a severe problem with things that are massively popular in America that nobody could possibly care about in other countries. NASCAR, Dave Matthews Band, schoolyard massacres—whilst our tardy-war entering cousins across the pond flip their lids for those, the rest of the world stares on in confusion. The same with Jay-Z. Apparently, Jay-Z can have number one singles in America. In the UK, he’s “that ugly guy that’s always hanging out with Beyonce”. To prove as much, here is a list of selected bands whose 2003 album release achieved more success in the UK charts than The Black Album, which spent one week at #40 before vanishing completely (the same as Modest Mouse’s new album, incidentally):

    Ed Harcourt (“From Every Sphere”, #39)
    Ryan & Rachel O'Donnell (“The Celtic Chillout Album 2”, #37)
    Evan Dando (“Baby I'm Bored”, #30)
    Alkaline Trio (“Good Mourning”, #32)
    Bonnie Raitt (“The Best of Bonnie Raitt”, #37)
    Less Than Jake (“Anthem”, #37)

    Jay-Z: less popular than Bonnie Raitt.

    9. Jay-Z isn’t as clever as he thinks he is
    Jay-Z was the main instigator of the “I have just said something clever” pause in rap. For a while, “Kill at will, solid water, ice cube” was the worst rap lyric ever. J seems to believe that the punning wit inherent in this line was so great that it required a slight breather whilst the listening public revelled in the genius of his, quite frankly, sub-Richard Whitely wordplay. Of course, Jay-Z has now retired and the baton has been passed in so many ways to Kanye West. If anyone out there can listen to, say, “Trying to be a millionaire I used two lifelines”, or the low-point of 800 years of the English language: “Story on MTV/ But I ain’t trying to make a band”, and the ensuing raised eyebrows that follows them, without wanting to kill, indeed, at will, please tell me how.

    10. Jay-Zeezer
    http://www.jay-zeezer.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    I must agree with Jase. Jay-Z was the best. But I only say that because I'm bias, and because I'm from New York.
    There is a song by Black Rob, i dont recall what it is, but its not hard to find, Black rob "talks" to Biggie Smalls in heaven and at one point Rob asks Biggie "Would Jay Z be hot if you were still alive?" Biggie replies "The kid would be better, becuase he would have to go up against me"
    Think about that, (Black rob is a legend BTW) think about how much harder Jay would have to work against the likes of Biggie.
    Jay has only had to go against the likes of Nas.

    Oh and pirates, you cant sit there and say to me "I only go for underground rappers" FYI, every "mainstream" rapper was "underground" at some point.
    Jay Z started the ROC HIMSELF
    Eminem was a detroit phenom.
    Proof.
    Obie Trice.
    MOP
    Mobb Deep
    Easy E.
    Rakim.

    All of them at one point were underground, why did they become mainstream? becuase they were good at rapping. So the next time someone goes "Oh that ***** is mainstream, he cant rap" think about the reason he came from the underground into the mainstream light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirates dc View Post
    7. He has the worst white fans of any rapper
    Racism. The kind that is not funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strongbad View Post
    Racism. The kind that is not funny.
    that remark isnt taking aim at white people.. its taking aim at white jay z fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by pirates dc View Post
    1. Jay Z is Fugly
    Yeah, that's why he's with R&B's hottest chick.

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    2. Beyonce is a rubbish beard
    No.

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    3. Roc-A-Fella has launched its own brand of whiskey.
    So?

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    4. The easily-impressed Prince Charles was not impressed
    Please. He probably doesn't even know what Hip-Hop is. Sorry, I'll pass on his opinion.

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    5. Jay-Z ringing Nas’ doorbell and then running away
    Who hasn't rung someone's doorbell and ran?

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    6. He practically invented the superfluous guest verse.
    Wha?

    7. He has the worst white fans of any rapper[/quote]It's not his fault he has tons of white fans who try...to be...down.

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    8. He isn’t really that popular outside of America
    Aaaand?

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    9. Jay-Z isn’t as clever as he thinks he is.
    Neither are the Ying Yang twins, yet they got props for their Whisper song. Clever....

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    10. Jay-Zeezer
    Okay.

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