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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphis Cain View Post
    Listen to the album Pale Folklore. Now. Seriously. You must. Not even kidding.

    Also, if PT doesn't play Arriving Somewhere, the concert will have not been worth it. That's just my take on the situation, though.

    Pale Folklore. Seriously Theo. You like Opeth? You'll fucking love Agalloch.
    I will make a note and find some stuff, thankies for the recommendation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnos View Post
    The new Orange Goblin album, Healing Through Fire, has leaked. It's pretty damn good thus far, a really strong mix of boozed out motorhead trashy rock/metal and stoner groove. A grimier UK cousin of Black Label Society, if I had to give a name comparision.
    Just checked them out, not bad, remind me a bit of Clutch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphis Cain View Post
    Listen to the album Pale Folklore. Now. Seriously. You must. Not even kidding.

    Also, if PT doesn't play Arriving Somewhere, the concert will have not been worth it. That's just my take on the situation, though.

    Pale Folklore. Seriously Theo. You like Opeth? You'll fucking love Agalloch.
    I'll second that. The album is pretty good, much better than I expected so pleasant surprise
    Definetly worth a try in any case.

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    Ok I just got back from the PT gig, it was totally awesome, sorry Seraphis, but they didn't play arriving somewhere I got a signed CD of Deadwing which made up for it, they played the entirity of the "Fear of a Blank Planet" album, which was fairly cool as well. I think it was £16 well spent

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    Holy shit, the new Candlemass leaked! Currently eagerly waiting for the download to finish, since this is the first album with Robert Lowe on vocals; but knowing Lowe, everything he sings on turns to gold, so this should be plenty good.

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    hehe i listen to ALOT but me Favorite shalt be: Metallica.

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    Okay, fagger.

    Btw, you left out an O.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Lucxus View Post
    Okay, fagger.

    Btw, you left out an O.
    Cut the kid some slack. There's a chance he actually meant their thrash era and not St. Anger.





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    its not just St. Anger, metallica started going sour with load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MondayHopscotch View Post
    its not just St. Anger, metallica started going sour with load.
    True (I personally point to the black album as the start of their downward spiral. It wasn't a bad album, but it was a sign of things to come. No Mustaine and no Burton was a bad combination for Metallica), but most mallcore kiddies would know St. Anger over the earlier ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnos View Post
    but most mallcore kiddies would know St. Anger over the earlier ones.
    so true...

    at least its true if these "mallcore" kids are the same kids that we in denver call mall goth's

    US metal isnt satisfying any more, all the good metal, whatever genre you might like, comes out of europe. (with a few exceptions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MondayHopscotch View Post
    so true...

    at least its true if these "mallcore" kids are the same kids that we in denver call mall goth's
    Probably the same thing. A mallcore kiddie used to be someone who listened to a lot of Marilyn Manson and Korn type music while thinking they're goth/punk/metal. Nowadays it's someone who listens to pop-punk or metalcore and acts emo/punk/metal. The wannabe-goth part of it seemed to die out with the rise of modern 'emo'.

    Quote Originally Posted by MondayHopscotch View Post
    US metal isnt satisfying any more, all the good metal, whatever genre you might like, comes out of europe. (with a few exceptions)
    It depends on the genre's you prefer, I think. The US black metal scene is fairly strong (admittedly, not as strong as the current french scene) and the US has always had a very strong death metal scene. Aside from goth/doom acts, the US is also the strongest area for doom subgenres (perhaps tied with Japan).

    But if you like power, thrash, trad or melodeath (not the metalcore that passes for it these days), then the US scene is pretty weak compared to europe.
    Last edited by Dr Mario; 28th-April-2007 at 02:56.

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    I have recently been sucked into the death metal scene (even though a year ago i would have told you i would NEVER listen do death metal), and from what ive seen over the last years is the skill difference in US death metal vs European death metal.

    Although i like death metal, i mostly listen to sub genres like Symphonic and melodic death metal. Bands like Dimmu Borgir and Arch enemy keep the death metal sound, but do it while still keeping the music clear.

    I like cannibal corpse and a few other US death metal bands but the majority of the US death metal bands i have heard seem... sloppy, unorganized. But im open to suggestions because i guarantee there are many many bands that i havent heard yet that can prove my statements wrong, and thats cool by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MondayHopscotch View Post
    I have recently been sucked into the death metal scene (even though a year ago i would have told you i would NEVER listen do death metal), and from what ive seen over the last years is the skill difference in US death metal vs European death metal.

    Although i like death metal, i mostly listen to sub genres like Symphonic and melodic death metal. Bands like Dimmu Borgir and Arch enemy keep the death metal sound, but do it while still keeping the music clear.

    I like cannibal corpse and a few other US death metal bands but the majority of the US death metal bands i have heard seem... sloppy, unorganized. But im open to suggestions because i guarantee there are many many bands that i havent heard yet that can prove my statements wrong, and thats cool by me.
    (side note: death metal, like black metal, has a really bad tradition of naming styles after the area they first sprung up in, even after they've spread globally. Hence why you'll sometimes hear things like a japanese band being termed 'New York' death metal.)

    Melodeath is originally a european (actually a Gothenburg, Sweden) innovation, so it's not too surprising to see them at the forefront of that style. Especially when the most influence melodeath has had in the US is metalcore bands imitating At The Gates leads and guitar harmonies. Not sure that I'd call Dimmu Borgir death metal, but I haven't listened to any of their work since Stormblast, so I'll defer to you on that.

    Originally, euro DM was the sloppy one. DM began branching into different styles almost as soon as it was created, early on there was the florida sound (essentially downtuned, harsher thrash eventually changing into what's now considered death metal) and the swedish sound (not to be confused with melodeath, it was a rougher and rawer style owing more to hardcore bands like Discharge than it did to thrash). The swedish style kind of died in the melodeath surge though.

    Of the styles that have sprung up since then, the sloppiest (slam-death, or texas DM, which probably isn't what you've heard) is pretty much an American phenomenon while the cleanest (technical death metal) is a mostly european style. Excluding melodeath, euro DM does tend to be a bit cleaner but it's largely a matter of which style the band actually plays.

    This is getting a bit long, so I'll namedrop a few tighter DM bands in the next post.
    Last edited by Dr Mario; 28th-April-2007 at 03:35.

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    as far as Dimmu Borgir goes, i hate stormblast... Their newer stuff shouldnt even be compared to stormblast, PM about it.

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