http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...75979627863972
add this to my case against any religion.
The Will to Power
Fear and Loathing
Under Christian theology, God is all-powerful and all-knowing. If he indeed created our bodies under the current state, he's either lazy, incompetent or kind of a dick.Originally Posted by Zephyr
Jackass Penguin
But, we're not meant to have the perfect bodies living in a perfect world yet.
Who?
Fear and Loathing
Probably not the best source for use in that case. The film took an absolute hammering for using unsourced, anecdotal and sometimes outright false information and runs heavily counter to most theories about the origins of Christianity.
It may not actually be wrong, but it's not solid enough to really count by itself
Cookie Thief
Under Christian theology, humans were originally immortal and perfect, back when there were only two of them hanging out in the garden of eden.They only became mortal and diluted after God cast them out of the garden.
As I was walking down the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish, I wish he'd go away.
Fear and Loathing
Yeah, that'd be where the whole "being a dick" part comes in. He had the option to not introduce suffering but did so anyway. Just another facet of the PoE manifesting itself.
Right. He cast them out for acting before they even had knowledge of good and evil, and he made the curse apply not just to them but to their descendants and, under many interpretations, the world as a whole. Kind of a dick move right there.
Jackass Penguin
PoE?
Fear and Loathing
Problem of Evil. The difficulty involved in rationalising the existence of both an all-powerful benevolent deity and the existence of evil. First summed up by Epicurus as:
""Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? then is he impotent. Is he able, but not willing? then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? whence then is evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
Cookie Thief
Those descendants wouldn't exist if it weren't for that dick move. The "punishment" is what expanded humanity all over the planet. I don't really mind having to die one day if that's the cost of existing in the first place, especially since those awfully illogical religious people believe that death isn't an end, but just a journey home.
As I was walking down the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today.
I wish, I wish he'd go away.
Jackass Penguin
Sounds like one man's opinion to me
Banned
sounds like good fucking logic to me.Sounds like one man's opinion to me
Fear and Loathing
There's no biblical reason to assume that having descendants would only have occurred after the fall. Plus the spread of humanity, under this option, came at the cost of immeasurable amounts of suffering over the entire planet and (by most theological beliefs) the literally infinite suffering of countless people.Those descendants wouldn't exist if it weren't for that dick move. The "punishment" is what expanded humanity all over the planet. I don't really mind having to die one day if that's the cost of existing in the first place, especially since those awfully illogical religious people believe that death isn't an end, but just a journey home.
Not a good deal.
Fear and Loathing
Care to actually show where it's wrong?Sounds like one man's opinion to me
Jackass Penguin
Nope. I can't and you know it.
I know what I believe, and I respect the fact that you believe something else. One day we'll all know.
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