9/11 was an inside job and I'm pissed

[Danny0990]

yup, got it mixed up, my bad.

http://www.insurancecoverageblog.com...ance-case.html

[Panda Man]

yup, got it mixed up, my bad.

http://www.insurancecoverageblog.com...ance-case.html

So from the looks of it, the WTC didn't have insurance at all, but was in the process of getting some. But then the attacks happened. Did you read that article? It in no way supports your claim that the government (Federal, State and/or Local) would gain any assets whatsoever from 9/11.

In a way you just proved yourself wrong. You just pulled a theory out of your ass about the government getting a lot of money from insurance, then claiming that there was an act passed supporting a so called "insurance tax," and the government would get a percentage of a claim, and now you posted this article about there not being any insurance at all. So, which is it? You may wish to be more specific in your future posts.

By the way, I just asked the insurance agent at the State Farm office, and he agrees with me that there is no taxes levied on insurance claims. Some premiums however, are taxed by state, but that is irrelevant.

And now I let Ray_ take over, he's doing a pretty good job

[Evans]

Since you seem entirely unable to tackle posts point by point and would rather vomit the same trash over and over, take a gander at this.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=1

[Raype]

he's a nobody billionaire.
if they picked donald trump or bill gates and one of them spilled the beans then the accusations would be stronger. everybody knows them, killing them after they have made such an accusation would cause an uproar in the US.

Okay, so they chose him because they could've killed him if he said no. So would it be wrong to assume that he may not have been the first person asked? How many billionaires and millionaires died under suspicious circumstances around the time of 9/11? Nowhere near what most people would assume as being a normal number of people who would object. Also, if the government killed him after the accusation was made, it'd make the case stronger. Did wonders for the JFK assassination theories, correct?

Also, you've yet to prove any real link between him or the government or any reason why they'd believe he would go along with it, other than the supposed death threats. Why it's almost like it's a separate conspiracy theory. Hmm, who benefits from war most? Big business of course. Who got the insurance money from 9/11? Big business owners of course. Who owns the media? Big business. You see a pattern? Sure, some politicians are partial or full owners of big businesses, but you can just as easily claim it was a corporate conspiracy as opposed to a political one. And we all know businesses are just a ruthless as any government. And they're pretty well organized as well. You claim demolitions equipment may have been used to blow up the towers. Demo/explosives companies make a killing during wartime. So they could've suppled the bombs under the table. They had access to the buildings (they owned them after all), and they could've manipulated the media. There, a conspiracy theory that absolves the government entirely or almost entirely of blame. What's to say this isn't right? It makes just as much sense as any of the circumstancial evidence conspiracy theorist give.

they wanted to go the extra mile in terms of manipulating america with fear (thats getting redundant, i know, but you keep mentioning lives as though they gave a damn)

Give me ONE peice of evidence that the government has ever directly considered killing civilians to further its ends. Clearly they either give a damn or are damn good at hiding it historically. In fact, anyone in this thread regardless of your stance may freely post anything to prove they're capable. I'm up for some government sponsored murder reading.

they were told to keep their mouths shut, along with the firemen that found recordings of talks over their communicators (some kept quiet, others spoke out)

Isn't that always the case? Look, if they were ordered to do this stuff and were "threatened" (as I'm sure this will lead there), then show me evidence that one of the firefighters who talked suffered a significant loss due to talking.

according to this theory they planted the bombs a week or so ahead of time before 9/11

And in all that time not one person noticed something was up? We're talking about a steel building here. That big fricken blast of the plane couldn't bring that sucker down. Yet a couple bombs did? So it had to be a proper demo rigging and not a sloppy job. Thing about demo rigging is that it requires a lot of time and effort, and you can generally spot one a mile away. Where are the videos of huge construction crews walking into the tower with drills, saws, blowtorches, etc?

it shows a cover up.

No, it shows twisted and/or manipulated information. Or someone not getting their facts right. Either way, it doesn't prove they did it, merely that they played the facts in such a way that it benefitted what they were doing. Making the best of a bad situation as it were.

or they could contained them in a cell for interrogation

and the bush/bin laden family have history together

International charter of human rights, American constitution, etc. You have a lot of reading ahead of you. Deporting them involved a lot less red tape. Plus what's to say they couldn't plot something from behind bars? Getting them out of the country was an immediate and easy solution.

Yes, pre 9/11. Show me something that proves they were being friendly post 9/11. America also had a history with saddam, didn't stop them from bombing the shit out of his country and giving him a nice new neck tie.

read my response with the 2nd quote

And they needed to go the extra mile, why exactly? Propaganda worked like a charm before. What makes a couple whackjobs in the desert sitting on billions in oil special when compared to: The british, the germans, the nazis, the japanese, the koreans, the vietnamese, the soviets, etc. ?

[Danny0990]

its an "i was wrong link" :-]

[Corey]

its an "i was wrong link" :-]

Did you just admit defeat?

[Kosmo Yagkoto]

So we are all in agreement that it was the New York Mets, correct?

[Danny0990]

Did you just admit defeat?

i wouldnt say "defeat", i was incorrect with the tax assumption, yes.

this is a discussion, not a debate.(atleast for me)

ill post more later



- Dan the Dentist

[Ahkei]

There's no way in hell I'm going to read this thread. I just wanted to coment on this post:

You people are exactly the reason all this is happening because you all have your heads up your asses.
The day will come when you'll know I'm right, but you know what?..
You won't have the opportunity to tell anyone about it because you'll be dead.

I'm really, absolutely, positively sure, that because we all don't believe that video, that we are going to die.

How do you think you're going to be saved because you believe that video? I don't know about you, but I'm not a fucking idiot.

[Lee]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...arch&plindex=0
I think this is a pretty good use of it.

Damn, 1hr?? shit if im watching that...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...61537770214767

watch that please it covers alot about the "conspiracy".

watch it with an open non-biased mind, then feel free to point out any errors in the "conspiracy"

DAMN! 3HOURS, fuck if im watching that... its probably mindlessly biased by the seconds hour...

and again, giving half-assed answers only screams "stupid teenagers"

err, they haven't been half assed.
You just immediately discredit them and treat them as half assed.

the towers were not only designed to hold an aircraft, but also to hold a fire for a few days before collapsing

Do you REALLY beleive this bullshit, or do you just read it and spit it back out?

No building, is completely fireproof, steel starts to weaken at a fairly low temperature. and with stress on the building (a 767) and a constant 900c+ fire, any building would come down after a few hours.

That comment just screams, "Stupid Teenager."

qft

this is a discussion, not a debate.

Do you even know the meaning of those two words?

Discussion: Consideration of a subject by a group; an earnest conversation.

Debate:To consider something; deliberate

Deliberate: To consult with another or others in a process of reaching a decision

And so, a discussion would require CONSIDERATION, of the fact that the government did not do it, which i cant see in you.

[Jetsetlemming]

Damn, 1hr?? shit if im watching that...

It's a feature length movie. Never heard of the greatness that is Reefer Madness???

[Lee]

It's a feature length movie. Never heard of the greatness that is Reefer Madness???

but an hour long, on google video?

if the first minute doenst hold my attention the other 68 (1h9m i beleive) probably wont either.

[somedude]

Danny,

Are you the guy who made the video? I'm not being smart or anything, but why do you seem so offended that, like, 3 guys here don't believe what you're saying? Posts concerning 9/11 on a forum about emulation is absurd to begin with and a governmental conspiracy definitely isn't anything new, I just don't get why you're pressing this thing so hard. Even if everyone here believed for certain that 9/11 was all a staged plan to invade Iraq: For one, way too much time has passed for people to care about that stuff anymore. Second, if we all gathered up and marched into the white house right now, we'd just be laughed at and told to get the hell out. You just can't convince anyone with theories and nothing else.

[Micosil]

Taking the matter into further consideration, how would your conspiracy theory explain the other terrorist bombings in Madrid and London? Those had nothing to do whatsoever with insurances or politics, and were supposedly done by muslim terrorists (with quite some proof, at least in the Spanish ones. I'm not so well informed about the English ones, but for all I know there's still evidence) And how do you explain the video with Bin Laden claiming the WTC terrorist attacks?

[maca]

And how do you explain the video with Bin Laden claiming the WTC terrorist attacks?

The conspiracy theorists claim the first vid is fake.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape.html