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[Sprung]

Where's the button, and will you get the e-mail?

Meh, I'd rather not believe just because I might be wrong, which is wrong in itself. I stand by my decisions.

That's not what I meant. I believe regardless.

Then I postulated the right/wrong situation.

[Mistral]

I choose to believe. If I'm wrong, then I just die. If you're wrong...

...I get reincarnated anyways? I go to purgatory? Pascal was an awful gambler.

[Strongbad]

Report her.

Yeah, that would do nothing.

[Sprung]

...I get reincarnated anyways? I go to purgatory? Pascal was an awful gambler.

I don't get it, but I fear I am much less learned than you

[Jetsetlemming]

Nobody ever said omnisentience means you know the future. It means "know all". If you define all as all currently existing knowledge or all as all knowledge ever, past, present, future, well, that's up to you. Not even all of Christianity agrees on which it is. Some sects believe in "pre-destination", i.e. God knows whether you're going to end up good or bad at the end and you cannot avoid your fate, others believe the future is up to you to write. :O I'm more of the latter than the former. I really don't jive well with the concept of inescapable destiny.

[Raype]

You know, he really is a big ass procrastinator.

If he were, the bible would be a fuckload more interesting.

"Oh hey, noah, see, there's this flood coming..."
"No shit, I'm neck deep in water here!"
"Err, I suppose it's too late for you to round up some animals and build an ark"
"You fucking kidding me?"

"Uh, abe dude, turns out god changed his mind. He wants you to CIRCUMSIZE your kid, not SACRIFICE your kid. Of course he waited til the last minute to... oh...uh...I see...."
"great, now you tell me..."

"PART!"
"..."
"PART! Come on, they're right behind us!"
"Oh shit no! Gahh" *slice"
*one huge massacre later*
*water parts*

"Jesus, dude, I'm here to save you. Uh... jesus?"
*pokes*
"... God is going to be pissed...."

"Hey israelites, god decided to free you fro..."
*notices burned out jerusalem*
"Ah fuck."

Sir Toothless John-Bob is not a lunatic.

You know my uncle john bob?

[Evans]

That's not what I meant. I believe regardless.

Then I postulated the right/wrong situation.

But, I don't believe and I try to do good. Where will I go?

...I get reincarnated anyways? I go to purgatory? Pascal was an awful gambler.

And he died of cancer.

[Raype]

Also I will admit that the red hair does stuff for me, I mean, damn, I'm stuck Edit: though I wish Hawkgirl was more vigorous

Indeed.

And caffeine.

Plus I always figured she wasn't "vigorous" because she spent all her energy in the sack.

I heard that the guy that come up with the idea of wonder woman was messed up (and was in to fetish stuff), I heard from the original premise that the only way to make wonder woman powerless was to tie her up.

It still is I think.

kinky.

[Fer!]

Wacka somestupidshit Wacka

[Sprung]

But, I don't believe and I try to do good. Where will I go?

I think you know my answer

[Mistral]

I don't get it, but I fear I am much less learned than you

Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit; I've heard it both ways) refers to a probability game featuring religion. Basically, God may or may not exist, and a person may or may not believe. If the person believes and God exists, they go to heaven (Win). If the person believes and God does not exist, they cease to be (Neutral). If the person believes and God does not exist, they cease to be (Neutral). If the person does not believe and God exists, they go to Hell (Lose). Basically, given the choice between believing and not believing, he says it's better to go with the option that gives a chance of success - believing. It fails because of its postulates - it assumes one Christian big-G-God of a specific denomination, it assumes no impact on living life in its value calculations, it assumes non-zero probability of God existing (continuous probabilities, at any given point, are probability 0), and it assumes belief based on this is valid. Or, in other words, it goes boom real good.

[Stark]

Threesome with Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl

I have my own special hell resevered for me

[Dr Mario]

I don't get it, but I fear I am much less learned than you

Pascals wager (the source of the usual "if I'm wrong, I lose nothing. If you're wrong, you lose everything" reason for believing) doesn't account for the possibility that both the Atheist and the Christian could be wrong.

Which makes it a pretty weak way to make a choice on the whole, given how many religions there have been over the years.

edit: beaten by Mistral.

[Sprung]

Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit; I've heard it both ways) refers to a probability game featuring religion. Basically, God may or may not exist, and a person may or may not believe. If the person believes and God exists, they go to heaven (Win). If the person believes and God does not exist, they cease to be (Neutral). If the person believes and God does not exist, they cease to be (Neutral). If the person does not believe and God exists, they go to Hell (Lose). It fails because of its postulates - it assumes one Christian big-G-God of a specific denomination, it assumes no impact on living life in its value calculations, it assumes non-zero probability of God existing (continuous probabilities, at any given point, are probability 0), and it assumes belief based on this is valid. Or, in other words, it goes boom real good.

I flunked algebra twice. I'm going to hell.

[Stark]

Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit; I've heard it both ways) refers to a probability game featuring religion. Basically, God may or may not exist, and a person may or may not believe. If the person believes and God exists, they go to heaven (Win). If the person believes and God does not exist, they cease to be (Neutral). If the person believes and God does not exist, they cease to be (Neutral). If the person does not believe and God exists, they go to Hell (Lose). It fails because of its postulates - it assumes one Christian big-G-God of a specific denomination, it assumes no impact on living life in its value calculations, it assumes non-zero probability of God existing (continuous probabilities, at any given point, are probability 0), and it assumes belief based on this is valid. Or, in other words, it goes boom real good.

To quote the joker "I hate it when you make sense"