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    Quote Originally Posted by Tancred
    Yea. Even Necronomicon in my sig have an undreadable logo. It's also a requirement for metal bands to worship Satan and do drugs. I mean OMG seriously. Plz dont be ignorant kthxbai...
    god i've waitin so long to be able to say this...


    STFU NOOB!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie
    In Flames was pretty good until they released Reroute To Remain and Soundtrack To Your Escape (which both has it share of shitty and decent songs, though mostly shitty). Lunar Strain is one of my favorite albums, Behind Space for the fucking win.

    Been listening a lot to King Diamond lately, and I just finished listening through "The Graveyard" for like, the 5th time this week. Without a doubt the King's second best album and I love the crazy, fucked up story. Heading onto "Voodoo" now.

    Oh, and everyone must listen to Municipal Waste - Hazardous Waste, especially if you worship S.O.D. and the like.

    Yeah my two favorites are Colony and the Jesters race. Colony takes the cake though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    Yeah my two favorites are Colony and the Jesters race. Colony takes the cake though.
    Colony was alright, slightly better than Clayman, but that's the album on when Anders Friden's voice became absolute garbage. "The Jester Race" and "Whoracle" simply killed his voice, he should've been replaced long ago. Though Colony is decent, I don't know why it's their most popular CD despite having one song showing up in a videogame. It pales in comparison to Lunar Strain and definately The Jester Race. "Colony"'s lyrics were also a little too personal, simple and revealing, older lyrics had a bigger meaning to me.

    Riff wise, they only began to decline right after Clayman. Some riffs were good on RtR but they used electronic aspects too much for my taste(on Colony too), it was more subtle in Clayman and Colony. STYE is the epitome of their loss of inspiration, I've yet to listen to Come Clarity thoroughly even though I've been waiting for it for so long.

    Decapitated's new song... I dunno I thought it was pretty lame. They sound like a Meshuggah rip-off now. It's like... "omg letz stop playing technical riffs but add a bunch of wacky time signatures to annoy people". Decapitated's thing was the riffs... now the riffs are way more simplistic but the songs timing is way erratic. Now I like it when bands try something very different like Immolation, but Decapitated aren't pulling it off quite well now. Vogg should focus more on straight-forward song structures but bring back his trademark technical riffs me thinks. Covan had a good voice live, but on the mp3 it sounds rather lame for a quality band like Decapitated...



    I'm getting back from Spain on January 7th, on Jan. 8th there are two shows:

    1)Ballet Deviare - A ballet thing in New York that uses artsy death, doom and black metal bands' music as backround music, AND WILL FEATURE Jim Malone of ARSIS playing "A DIAMOND FOR DISEASE" live. *gasp* But I'd be paying $40 just to see him play that song alone...

    2)Thrash legends SODOM with Finnish folk black metal freaks FINNTROLL.

    I'm leaning towards the 2nd choice a lot... I think it'lll be more worth it, but I certainly wouldn't feel right after missing Arsis(or at least, part of Arsis). Should I stop being such an Arsis fanboy for a little bit and wait until they go on tour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soeru
    Decapitated's new song... I dunno I thought it was pretty lame. They sound like a Meshuggah rip-off now. It's like... "omg letz stop playing technical riffs but add a bunch of wacky time signatures to annoy people". Decapitated's thing was the riffs... now the riffs are way more simplistic but the songs timing is way erratic. Now I like it when bands try something very different like Immolation, but Decapitated aren't pulling it off quite well now. Vogg should focus more on straight-forward song structures but bring back his trademark technical riffs me thinks. Covan had a good voice live, but on the mp3 it sounds rather lame for a quality band like Decapitated...
    When I heard Covan live I thought he was pretty good, then I heard the new song and his vocals were so different.

    Beneath the Massacre anyone...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soeru
    Colony was alright, slightly better than Clayman, but that's the album on when Anders Friden's voice became absolute garbage. "The Jester Race" and "Whoracle" simply killed his voice, he should've been replaced long ago. Though Colony is decent, I don't know why it's their most popular CD despite having one song showing up in a videogame. It pales in comparison to Lunar Strain and definately The Jester Race. "Colony"'s lyrics were also a little too personal, simple and revealing, older lyrics had a bigger meaning to me.

    Riff wise, they only began to decline right after Clayman. Some riffs were good on RtR but they used electronic aspects too much for my taste(on Colony too), it was more subtle in Clayman and Colony. STYE is the epitome of their loss of inspiration, I've yet to listen to Come Clarity thoroughly even though I've been waiting for it for so long.

    Decapitated's new song... I dunno I thought it was pretty lame. They sound like a Meshuggah rip-off now. It's like... "omg letz stop playing technical riffs but add a bunch of wacky time signatures to annoy people". Decapitated's thing was the riffs... now the riffs are way more simplistic but the songs timing is way erratic. Now I like it when bands try something very different like Immolation, but Decapitated aren't pulling it off quite well now. Vogg should focus more on straight-forward song structures but bring back his trademark technical riffs me thinks. Covan had a good voice live, but on the mp3 it sounds rather lame for a quality band like Decapitated...



    I'm getting back from Spain on January 7th, on Jan. 8th there are two shows:

    1)Ballet Deviare - A ballet thing in New York that uses artsy death, doom and black metal bands' music as backround music, AND WILL FEATURE Jim Malone of ARSIS playing "A DIAMOND FOR DISEASE" live. *gasp* But I'd be paying $40 just to see him play that song alone...

    2)Thrash legends SODOM with Finnish folk black metal freaks FINNTROLL.

    I'm leaning towards the 2nd choice a lot... I think it'lll be more worth it, but I certainly wouldn't feel right after missing Arsis(or at least, part of Arsis). Should I stop being such an Arsis fanboy for a little bit and wait until they go on tour?

    Fridens new voice doesn't bother me at all just because how the lyrics flow.

    but its Ironic how the Jesters Race theme was about humans replacing themselfs with technology, but they are starting to over use it.

    Yeah the song Embody the Invisible was on a Tony Hawk game, but that's the worst song on the album.

    The song Ordinary Story is alot better, best on the Album next to the song Colony itself.

    RTR had alot of strong lyrical content, but lacking in the Insturmental.

    Evil in a Closet is a really good soft song made by them, I would have to say it's the only good song on Soundtrack to your Escape.

    I'm all for change in a band as long as their fans know how they sounded before the change, and still enjoy their stuff, because most kids I know just like them after the change and everything before they say sucks, when it is really the other way around.

    Arsis is pretty good but I don't like the real br00tle stuffs .

    Sucks to be the people who went to see In Flames and Motor Head,
    In Flames real drummer had to sit out because he had another kid.


    Quote Originally Posted by SuperSqueak
    You guys are too hard on IF. I'll always love them, but that's me. My fave tracks off the new album are tracks 1, 12, 10, and 5. Especially 12, I love the guitar work on this album
    December Flower would stomp everysong on the new Album .


    Oh yeah and my Colony Shirt came in last week, It kicks mass ass. I love it.


    I also wonder how DT would be if they were to keep Anders in their band rather than trading him over to In Flames.

    The song Episode 666 Has some kick ass riffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    but its Ironic how the Jesters Race theme was about humans replacing themselfs with technology, but they are starting to over use it.
    Word.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    Yeah the song Embody the Invisible was on a Tony Hawk game, but that's the worst song on the album.
    Don't let Howie read this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    The song Ordinary Story is alot better, best on the Album next to the song Colony itself..
    That song for me was the point where they started to focus more on deep personal issues, rather than the more open philosophical/abstract theme in the previous albums.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    I'm all for change in a band as long as their fans know how they sounded before the change, and still enjoy their stuff, because most kids I know just like them after the change and everything before they say sucks, when it is really the other way around.
    Kids who say that about once-awesome bands like In Flames, Sepultura, or Metallica have never really listened to the old material.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    Arsis is pretty good but I don't like the real br00tle stuffs . December Flower would stomp everysong on the new Album .
    I thought you liked The Crown, they're pretty br00t3l. You'll get to like heavier shit with time. Get Decapitated's "Nihility", Morbid Angel's "Covenant", and Deicide's "Legion" and "Serpents of the Light", they helped me make the transition from melodic DM to pure death metal. You definately won't like Suffocation now, but give it a year and you'll probably like them a lot.

    Any song on The Jester Race would stomp on the new album.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi

    I also wonder how DT would be if they were to keep Anders in their band rather than trading him over to In Flames.

    The song Episode 666 Has some kick ass riffs.
    DT would probably be way too emotional for me then, because that's the kind of lyrics that Anders writes. And the music of DT is already emotional, so it would be overboard to have Anders in the band. Btw, Mikael Stanne>Anders Friden. Maybe In Flames should re-recruit that vocalist that did the singing Black Ash Inheritance mini CD(just before The Jester Race, before Anders was recruited).

    Edit: Btw, melodic death kiddies that also like Slayer will love modern Kreator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soeru
    Word.



    Don't let Howie read this.



    That song for me was the point where they started to focus more on deep personal issues, rather than the more open philosophical/abstract theme in the previous albums.




    Kids who say that about once-awesome bands like In Flames, Sepultura, or Metallica have never really listened to the old material.


    I thought you liked The Crown, they're pretty br00t3l. You'll get to like heavier shit with time. Get Decapitated's "Nihility", Morbid Angel's "Covenant", and Deicide's "Legion" and "Serpents of the Light", they helped me make the transition from melodic DM to pure death metal. You definately won't like Suffocation now, but give it a year and you'll probably like them a lot.

    Any song on The Jester Race would stomp on the new album.



    DT would probably be way too emotional for me then, because that's the kind of lyrics that Anders writes. And the music of DT is already emotional, so it would be overboard to have Anders in the band. Btw, Mikael Stanne>Anders Friden. Maybe In Flames should re-recruit that vocalist that did the singing Black Ash Inheritance mini CD(just before The Jester Race, before Anders was recruited).

    Edit: Btw, melodic death kiddies that also like Slayer will love modern Kreator.

    Yeah, I do love The Crown, but they arn't as brutal as say, Behemoth and what not. Really rythmatic singing in most The Crowns stuff. They remind me alot of AtG.

    DT kicks ass, Razor Fever for the win.

    Nile is a bad ass Brutal Band though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    Yeah the song Embody the Invisible was on a Tony Hawk game, but that's the worst song on the album.

    Apart from Man Made God, Embody The Invisible is the best song on the album. Oh, at least in my worthless little opinion, that is.

    Oh, and about Tony Hawk, I heard the newest game (American Wasteland) has Venom - Black Metal in the soundtrack. Great song, but I can't picture myself skating to it (it worked nicely with In Flames, however ).

    The In Flames - Come Clarity artwork was recently uploaded to MA, for those who didn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie

    Apart from Man Made God, Embody The Invisible is the best song on the album. Oh, at least in my worthless little opinion, that is.

    Oh, and about Tony Hawk, I heard the newest game (American Wasteland) has Venom - Black Metal in the soundtrack. Great song, but I can't picture myself skating to it (it worked nicely with In Flames, however ).

    The In Flames - Come Clarity artwork was recently uploaded to MA, for those who didn't know.
    Well I am listening to it right now, and I tell you what, I am impressed.
    Alot better than I had expected, The vocals might remind you of somthing Beyond the Embrace would do, Really heavy to a rythmatic Chorus, I like it. Alot.

    Skating to black metal. hmm, I don't see it happening .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    Skating to black metal. hmm, I don't see it happening .
    It's not really Black Metal, it's pretty much just old-school Heavy Metal, or even NWOBHM which it says on the sleeve.

    The new Elvenking has been leaked, for those interested (which I think is only me ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie
    It's not really Black Metal, it's pretty much just old-school Heavy Metal, or even NWOBHM which it says on the sleeve.

    The new Elvenking has been leaked, for those interested (which I think is only me ).
    Yeah. I know that Black Metal was one of the first songs I ever heard.

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    Anyone listen to Solitude Aeturnus? I've been totally into them this week. US doom metal in the vein of Black Sabbath and Candlemass, and at it's finest at that. Samples of the new album are on the official website, in case we have any fans here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalith
    Anyone listen to Solitude Aeturnus? I've been totally into them this week. US doom metal in the vein of Black Sabbath and Candlemass, and at it's finest at that. Samples of the new album are on the official website, in case we have any fans here.
    Yea I listened to them ages ago.. but I don't know why I deleted their stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie

    Apart from Man Made God, Embody The Invisible is the best song on the album. Oh, at least in my worthless little opinion, that is.

    Oh, and about Tony Hawk, I heard the newest game (American Wasteland) has Venom - Black Metal in the soundtrack. Great song, but I can't picture myself skating to it (it worked nicely with In Flames, however ).

    The In Flames - Come Clarity artwork was recently uploaded to MA, for those who didn't know.
    Well, early black metal(or speed metal if you wish to call it) like Venom and Bathory were highly influenced by punk, riff-wise. Specifically early Bathory, Quorthon has stated that he listened to more Oi Punk than Mot�rhead back then. I mean listen to the opening riff to "In Conspiracy with Satan", can't get more punkish than that. A lot of younger thrash fans don't know that the origin of thrash drumming and eventually blastbeats is actually extreme punk like hardcore and grindcore. So say all you want about modern hardcore/metalcore, but if it weren't for oldschool punk bands, metal wouldn't sound half as brutal as it does nowadays. Yes, I really give a fuck about the origins of this music.

    The reason why most people associate early Bathory riffs with thrash is because thrash is heavily influenced by 80's hardcore punk, thrash basically a mix between hardcore and NWOBHM like Iron Maiden. Saying that old Bathory is thrashy is flawed however, as Bathory were around before the thrash scene came into existence.

    Anyway, yeah, I don't see myself skating to some Darkthrone or Emperor, but maybe something like Bathory's first album or Venom's "Black Metal". I think having this in the new game is a very good idea, they're injecting all those pop-punk loving teenage gamers with some really underground shit, let's wait a few months and see what they think of Venom. I doubt they'll gain a lot of popularity, but at least they'll get recognized at a bigger level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi
    Yeah. I know that Black Metal was one of the first songs I ever heard.
    I assume it was Cradle of Filth's cover. Blasphemy. In a bad, totally unmetal way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_Campbell
    They should have Devourment playing while skating
    Nah, I think smashing my skull against the concrete from a fall is more than enough brutality for skating. Btw, their new album is out right? I fuckin love their breakdowns, anyone who likes Wormed or Suffocation is extremely encouraged to check them out, and Bruce you're highly encouraged to check out Wormed if you haven't yet. Insanely brutal and original death metal with wacky passages, odd time signatures, jazzy drumming, and lyrics inspired by astronomy, LSD, shrooms, and philosophy. Best of all, they're from Madrid, Spain. *represent*
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    I honestly like the cover alot more.

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