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    I frequently see doom and gloom articles for Ninendo, and yet, the one thing that has been seen is Nintendo surviving, if not outright thriving. Nintendo has a lot of money in the bank; so even if the wii u fails, you can bet there will be another console from them.

    Usually one can expect larger sales around the release of the newest mario or zelda, or Super Smash Bros. These are the big console sellers for Nintendo most of the time. The only time it wasn't was with the wii when "Wii Sports" was their biggest console sellers. Thing is, the anti-nintendo crowd really wants Nintendo gone, and so I get a kick out of seeing them rage when Nintendo actually does pretty well. Ninty probably won't be on top this gen, like they were last gen (while I believe the quality of their console was inferior and got many good games that just wouldn't be as good on the wii, I am referring to sales). I suspect Sony will do the best this gen actually, but I don't see Nintendo as doing poorly. Actually I can see Sony or Microsoft facing trouble before Nintendo. I've read articles talking about the debt Sony is in and how their credit ratings were being dropped. Fortunately for them, their videogame branch is actually one of their better branches, but it gets somewhat canceled out by their failed ventures. If Nintendo's Wii U is a flop, then Microsoft's Xbox One is even worse. There were so many fails before launch, and there is word that the NSA had at at least planned to use the Kinect camera to spy on users like they have done with other webcams. Of course, this is all opinion.

    Anyweay, when it comes to innovation, Nintendo is the only ones really trying new things. Sony is the safe company, the ps4 is really just a ps3-2, which was really just a ps2-2. Aside from graphics, almost everything they can do on ps4 can be done on ps2, it just won't look as pretty. Same for Xbox 1, though Microsoft forces the user to buy the kinect with it (since there isn't a kinect-less model), for the most part, you use traditional controls. The gamer fanbase can be so indecisive sometimes. They want innovation, but choose to buy the same thing over and over. Even when it comes to just the games, the innovative games get left behind for the call of duties and the final fantasies. Nintendo, at least with their hardware tries all kinds of things. Yeah, some tend to be flops, but I think they at least get an A for effort. I didn't like the Wii remote, it was uncomfortable, and at times unresponsive. Remotes don't make good controllers imo. The Wii U gamepad is much better imo. I love my DS and 3DS, the touchscreens on them are a much better way to play games than motion controls. The gamepad is an extension of that. Developers have shown themselves better able to incorporate a touchscreen than motion controls without resorting to simple gimmicks. Nintendo is still king though when it comes to incorporating new features. I found the touchscreen very responsive and that it added to the game rather than detract when I played Windwaker HD.

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    i doubt it, as IAmError pointed out it wouldn't be the first bad console they've made and walked away from to keep going with other stuff. wonder how well sega would do as far as making a console goes with current tech...guess i'll never know.

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    Nintendo did such a poor job of informing people that the system even existed. They really dropped the ball on the wiiu and having an expensive controller that keeps the system price up doesn't exactly help either. Better luck next time Nintendo, I am almost positive that if Nintendo doesn't nail it next time that they will be done. The wii money from last gen doesn't last forever.

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    It wasn't just Nintendo, even the stores selling the wii u and the media talking about it were spreading misinformation whether on purpose or not. The media also didn't even know what the 3ds or the 2ds were and talked about them like they were experts about handhelds and videogames in general. Of course, right now the 3ds is actually doing well, and I expect that Nintendo will ultimately make a profit on the wii u. It'll just take a couple years and a few first party games to push sales.

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    If I am not wrong, Nintendo as a company has been around since the 1918. And also do not forget that it is a Japanese company, they do not die that soon. In fact in Japan you can find Sake shops, restaurants and companies operating since the 15th or 16th century. This is not common in any other part of the world.

    I do not remember the details but once a Japanese CEO said that when we face massive losses, we just start working twice as hard to turn the wheel back. So I do not think Ninetendo will be done that easily, they will find out ways to thrive.

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    ^ I think you meant 1981. We barely had automobiles in 1918.

    If the Wii U does nail their coffin shut, then it won't be over for them. Almost every kid I see around here has a nintendo ds of some sort.

    I mean, they could offer "digital rewards" a.k.a. trophies/cheevos like the other 2 companies. (If they don't already. I honestly don't know) From my experience this drives sales to another niche market of sick individuals.

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    No, he meant 1918, and he was wrong. Nintendo was founded September 23, 1889. Nintendo is 125 years old. They started fiddling around with electronics in 1974.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar View Post
    No, he meant 1918, and he was wrong. Nintendo was founded September 23, 1889. Nintendo is 125 years old. They started fiddling around with electronics in 1974.
    wow, i didn't think the company was that old. i don't know what year but iirc the earliest i've heard of the was when they were making playing cards, i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treos View Post
    wow, i didn't think the company was that old. i don't know what year but iirc the earliest i've heard of the was when they were making playing cards, i think.
    A quick google search on Nintendo will tell you or anyone they have been around since basically the beginning of the last century. It amazes he how the simplicity of Google eludes 95% of the denizens on this site.

    Anyway, I'm no Ninty supporter by any means (even though I cut my teeth on them growing up), but these "doom and gloom" articles are getting useless, and it's even more worthless debating whether they've failed or not.

    The Wii U has totally underperformed, and the game that was supposed to bolster sales (Mario 3D World) didn't do a damn thing. Ninty tried to pull the same tactic Sony did with the PS3 - they went into the next generation with a really big hard-on and basically assumed everyone would buy the system due to previous success. It didn't happen, and now Ninty is basically screwed since they have shit hardware and no third support compared to the the PS4 and XBone.

    Now, with that said, Ninty will still survive - they have the 3DS and DS sales that are still selling through the roof. It isn't the end of them, and it isn't the end of their console business. The Wii U is definitely not a blip on any hard core gamer's radar right now, and probably won't ever be, but the company isn't going to die. Especially now that Iwata is up for review and most likely to be fired with new management and a new business sense.
    Ninty is full of old hard headed bastards, don't even try to dispute this claim.

    /end thread
    /end doom and gloom
    /end discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by treos View Post
    wow, i didn't think the company was that old. i don't know what year but iirc the earliest i've heard of the was when they were making playing cards, i think.
    I wonder if they employed ninja. I bet they did. Actually...historical fact: Nintendo was started by Kenshin Himura
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    Quote Originally Posted by markbarkins View Post
    I wonder if they employed ninja. I bet they did. Actually...historical fact: Nintendo was started by Kenshin Himura
    WTF are you talking about - Nintendo was started by Fusajiro Yamauchi.
    Pretty sure Ruroni Kenshin derp derp anime wasn't around then.

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    Nintendo has all the money. They could make a console that sells even worse than Wii U after this one and still be fine. The reason they're so innovative and willing to try new things is because of all the money they have, they aren't shitting out some random console and hoping it works so they can keep their lights on. Nintendo can afford mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlavaFlave View Post
    Now, with that said, Ninty will still survive - they have the 3DS and DS sales that are still selling through the roof. It isn't the end of them, and it isn't the end of their console business. The Wii U is definitely not a blip on any hard core gamer's radar right now, and probably won't ever be, but the company isn't going to die. Especially now that Iwata is up for review and most likely to be fired with new management and a new business sense.
    Ninty is full of old hard headed bastards, don't even try to dispute this claim.
    Semantics just to be a dick but shouldn't it be the other way around? Only the most hardcore people are collecting for the Wii U.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy View Post
    Semantics just to be a dick but shouldn't it be the other way around? Only the most hardcore people are collecting for the Wii U.
    He meant hardcore as in gamers who play "real" games. Wii U is considered a kid's console.

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    I'm aware. Dumbass talking point so I made a bad joke about it.

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