The Fresh Flesh-Eating Prince Out: A one tonne baby to rule them all.

[Sheik]

Hai Elin~

and Roxas, good for you.

I'm over here about to do back flips in joy because I'm about to actually begin more fun training the Marine Corps.
*it's more academic than pew, pew so I'll still be around.

[Ace Ventura]

Money better spent over at GOGs

Lolwut?

[Elin]

But Steins Gate isn't making fun of the character... in fact I think the protag makes it clear that gender doesn't matter. Oh well.

Having the protagonist in your show repeatedly call a character who identifies as male to female transgender (reading the background to the character seems to suggest that she actually identifies as female, but I've not seen the show, so forgive me if I'm wrong) a man is making fun of the character. It's the same as willfully using "he" to refer to a male to female transgender person, or referring persistently to a female to male one as "she", "doll", "sweetie" and suchlike. The implication in both cases is that transgender people are not "real" women or men, but simply frauds. It's the same reason that saying that you'd "go gay" for a given transgender woman or referring to trans women as "traps" is offensive. You're ultimately just treating them as men in disguise.

Acceptance for a transgender person means accepting them completely as the gender they feel that they are. If you're drawing lines in the sand and saying that "this person is really a man / really a woman", that's not acceptance at all. It's just a less violent form of discrimination.

[Gypsy]

I don't think I would have enjoyed it ever, really. I never liked comedy like that. Admittedly I like it less now, but whether or not I'm part of a suffering minority, I still find comedy that makes fun of said minority disgusting and distasteful. I don't think comedy like that will always happen. Overtly racist comedy is a lot less prominent now than it used to be, and while progress is slow, I think lots of people are rapidly realising that overtly homophobic comedy is wrong. The only reason transphobic comedy is so prominent is that transgender rights are still in the dark ages. Which is precisely why we shouldn't put up with stuff like this when it happens.

Admittedly it's not quite as bad when it happens in Japan, where violent discrimination against transgender people is pretty rare, and I can usually kind of just sigh and turn the show off when I see it in an anime, because I know that probably the worst it will lead to is the same old dumb stereotypes. In the West, though, where plenty of trans people are fired / beaten / verbally abused / killed every year just for being who they are? And where dehumanising transgender people and turning them into freak shows directly contributes to violence and hatred against them? I find very little to laugh at.

Oh, and I'm not gay myself, but I think it pretty much objectively was homophobic. :/ Actually, it was a big part of the reason that I didn't finish watching the anime. The game handled the subject pretty well. The anime not so much. ._.



Yeah, I'm just not going to comment on this. ._.

I can't even really reply to this. I'm such an oaf.

I actually had no idea how bad transgender discrimination was in the west but I googled and... I guess I don't watch the news a ton, and these kind of stories probably get buried. I should have expected it of course, considering all the homosexual discrimination that goes on here.

[Sheik]

Lolwut?

?tuwloL

[Gypsy]

Acceptance for a transgender person means accepting them completely as the gender they feel that they are. If you're drawing lines in the sand and saying that "this person is really a man / really a woman", that's not acceptance at all. It's just a less violent form of discrimination.

Damn right.

[Ace Ventura]

?tuwloL

I have no idea what he's talking about.

[Gare]

Roxas, dude. DUDE. http://www.gog.com/ EDUCATE YOURSELF.

[Ace Ventura]

Roxas, dude. DUDE. http://www.gog.com/ EDUCATE YOURSELF.

Ahhhh I see now.

[Gare]

Also Elin, apologies for offending you, that was not my intention.

[Gypsy]

Roxas, dude. DUDE. http://www.gog.com/ EDUCATE YOURSELF.

Become one with the GOG.

[Elin]

Also Elin, apologies for offending you, that was not my intention.

It's okay. You didn't offend me. That kind of comedy is, like you say, absolutely everywhere, and most people don't even realise that there's anything wrong with it. Still, the more depressing news stories I see about transgender people (and transgender women in particular), the harder I find it just to laugh it off as harmless fun, and nowadays I feel obliged to at least point out why it's not a good thing. Like I say, in Japan it's not quite so bad being that it by and large only contributes to silly stereotypes and not violence or extreme levels of discrimination. But even those stereotypes make it much, much harder to live with what is already a very humiliating, unpleasant condition. :/

[Drageuth]

The smart thing to do would be to implement DRM on digital titles only or make it entirely optional at purchase. That way the share account stuff works and the people who are shunning the fuck out of digital only titles get to keep their stuff. And those of us with discs don't have to deal with this shit. Meanwhile people who download can opt out of the program entirely (just tie it to Gold or something) and wind up with a non shareable, non transferable copy of the game that doesn't have restrictions up the ass. But if you want to share a game with a couple friends and all that jazz, purchase the game with "cloud sharing" or whatever (and maybe shove a little fee on top of it) and everything's kosher.

Person 1 has purchased a game on disc. He gets to play it 24/7 internet or no.
Person 2 purchased the game and selected to opt out of the DRM. He gets to play the game 24/7 but can't split it with his homies or take it "on the go".
Person 3 purchased the game and decided to go in on the DRM. He has to deal with online check-ins to use this title, but he also gets to split it with 9 other people.

But that would make sense. Something the game industry hasn't exactly been doing lately.

After a quick look back at info that came out right around E3, apparently it wasn't just digital copies (which is what I thought), but all copies. Essentially, it was "load a disc based game and install it, and it's tied to your account and you can play it from any XB1, and share it with up to 10 friends if you so choose."

I agree that your breakdown works, but I've found that with pretty much everything, the more complicated you make it, the less likely people are to use it or the more frustrated they get trying to find the options that they want. Also, the more fractured you make all of the options, the more likely you are to run into problems, or for people to find loopholes to circumvent your safety measures.

I agree with why XB1 had the DRM that it had, but the rewards from having to put up with said DRM weren't worth the hassle. Also, the lack of explanation for what would happen if you didn't "check in" with their servers after 24 hours didn't sit well with me. The XB1 had promise, but the rest of it was so flawed or under explained that it wasn't worth the risk.

[Elin]

I can't even really reply to this. I'm such an oaf.

I actually had no idea how bad transgender discrimination was in the west but I googled and... I guess I don't watch the news a ton, and these kind of stories probably get buried. I should have expected it of course, considering all the homosexual discrimination that goes on here.

Yeah, it's pretty terrible. It's a big part of the reason that I want to escape from the west for at least a few years. In Japan, there is seriously almost no transphobia. Granted I sometimes face racism, but it usually just takes the form of dumb stereotypes and ignorance, and most people are pretty okay with you once they realise that you speak Japanese and aren't compliant with their stereotypes about foreigners, so it's not too difficult to ignore.

In the west, by comparison, I'm genuinely afraid to go outside a lot of the time, have very limited job prospects, and am regularly treated badly by people I have done absolutely nothing to wrong. And I live in, according to recent surveys, the most LGBT-tolerant country in Europe, and have had all sorts of good fortune come my way, so the situation for others is even more grim. I guess you could view it as running away, but it just takes too much out of you to live like that.

Anyway, this is the hangout, so I'll avoid any more srs bsns. :'D Sorry.

[Gypsy]

In the west, by comparison, I'm genuinely afraid to go outside a lot of the time, have very limited job prospects, and am regularly treated badly by people I have done absolutely nothing to wrong.

I couldn't even imagine having to live like this.