@Raype: Wii does not have HDD. And Xbox original had HDD. PS2 could be upgraded with HDD. And PCs had HDD since the olden times.

I would bring up the PC, but didn't Dreamcast have something similar? I mean, it didn't have dashboard chat or whatever, but you could still do the same. This is more gimmicky than every other thing we had mentioned before! (But I probably feel this way because I can't do that with my shitty internet speed) (But steam )

Again, I don't see any point trying to separate PCs and consoles. They're different yes, but not that different you make them out to be. And in my view both consoles and PCs affect each other so you can't just say they're entirely different markets. A big part of my arguments come from the PC side.

I do own a Wii. I bought it for some exclusives and GC compatibility. (GC was never released in my country)