The Hang-Out: DC > Marvel. Because Jonah Hex Editor.

[Raype]

Also, military think tanks propose a lot of options. It's pretty unlikely they even seriously considered anything that was brought up. There could very well have been thousands of potential "plans" there. He may never have even read it for all we know. When the CMC hit, everybody was working overtime to figure out how to end it. When you're trying to stop the end of the world, you kind of pull out all the stops.

[Spose']

Vaccines are just the dead virus's being inject or inhaled into your body while weak so your Cells can learn what they are and can kill them faster when and if you catch the virus it will die faster. You have a higher risk of getting the flu from a vaccine than autism.

[Spose']

I don't have to try so hard. The initial conflict was just me noticing a pattern with the Xbox 360 and the Sony patent thread (if you could call it a conflict). I truly have no hatred for you or an agenda of any sort, besides enjoying your response. It's a semi-serious discussion where I want to know a detailed answer on your opinion instead of a quick flub of something similar to stating a one-liner and claiming it as common knowledge.

On the xbox thread i proved you wrong by stating that my opinion was already posted and my corrections were all facts from multiple articles on the same topic.
The Sony patent thread was already a dead topic you just brought back. This is a dead matter also. No need to reply on it.

[Raype]

Vaccines are just the dead virus's being inject or inhaled into your body while weak so your Cells can learn what they are and can kill them faster when and if you catch the virus it will die faster. You have a higher risk of getting the flu from a vaccine than autism.

I dunno, I mean it's kind of hard to quantify in a lab. It's entirely possible he's right.

Then again, I seem to recall there being some sort of correlation between close proximity to guns at the point of conception and having a small penis. So make of that what you will.

[Mr. Nemo]

You....you can't actually be thinking that vaccines actually cause autism, right?

I figured you would go for jokes. The actual theory is the MMR vaccine encourages Crohn's disease. Most Autism cases is really Crohn's disease and both diseases show similar symptoms to the point they are confused as Autism. I was just using that as an example, not to be mocked.

[Spose']

I dunno, I mean it's kind of hard to quantify in a lab. It's entirely possible he's right.

Then again, I seem to recall there being some sort of correlation between close proximity to guns at the point of conception and having a small penis. So make of that what you will.

Also, we all know the government made aids to make the general population weak so that they can't rebel and attempt to over throw the government.

[Raype]

I figured you would go for jokes. The actual theory is the MMR vaccine encourages Crohn's disease. Most Autism cases is really Crohn's disease and both diseases show similar symptoms to the point they are confused as Autism. I was just using that as an example, not to be mocked.

Autism and Crohn's have nothing to do with each other though. One's a neurological disorder the other is an immunological disease. It's like saying paranoia is often misdiagnosed heart disease. I'm assuming you're trying to bring up the fact that autistic people are more prone to digestive disorders? In which case, that's hardly something you can put on a vaccine.

Also, cause: effect. Is it that the vaccine is causing Crohn's disease, or is it that the vaccine (which involves the immune system) is exacerbating an underlying condition (IE: you already had Crohn's, the vaccine just made it worse).

[Spose']

Autism and Crohn's have nothing to do with each other though. One's a neurological disorder the other is an immunological disease. It's like saying paranoia is often misdiagnosed heart disease. I'm assuming you're trying to bring up the fact that autistic people are more prone to digestive disorders? In which case, that's hardly something you can put on a vaccine.

Also, cause: effect. Is it that the vaccine is causing Crohn's disease, or is it that the vaccine (which involves the immune system) is exacerbating an underlying condition (IE: you already had Crohn's, the vaccine just made it worse).

On topic would be that my dad's girlfriend had Crohn's disease, it only increased activity after recieving a certain shot (They were not certain as to which one exactly). But it was always there. It was just more dormit in a way. The vaccines just had a affect toward's the disease.

[Raype]

Also, we all know the government made aids to make the general population weak so that they can't rebel and attempt to over throw the government.

Oh please, you can't still believe that silly thing.

In the entire history of the world, not one single person has ever died from AIDS.

No, really. Look it up.

No one ever dies of AIDS. Ever.

AIDS is therefore totally harmless. IMPECCABLE LOGIC!

[Raype]

On topic would be that my dad's girlfriend had Crohn's disease, it only increased activity after recieving a certain shot (They were not certain as to which one exactly). But it was always there. It was just more dormit in a way. The vaccines just had a affect toward's the disease.

Which is entirely understandable.

A person with a bad back may not show any symptoms of a bad back.

But if you try making them lift something heavy, they sure as fuck are going to show symptoms.

That doesn't mean the heavy lifting suddenly made their back bad.

It just brought it out.

In this case, the bad back is dormant Crohn's, the heavy object is the vaccine, and the person is....a person.

Okay, so my metaphors need work.

In any event, a perfectly healthy person would benefit from the heavy lifting in the form of exercise. So outlawing everything heavier than a TV remote isn't exactly a great idea.

If anything, better genetic screening before vaccination is the only necessary action.

[Spose']

Oh please, you can't still believe that silly thing.

In the entire history of the world, not one single person has ever died from AIDS.

No, really. Look it up.

No one ever dies of AIDS. Ever.

AIDS is therefore totally harmless. IMPECCABLE LOGIC!

I know just another theory that would be deemed "Possible" .

The only thing aids really does is weaken the immune system as he fights it making diseases like pnemunia (Can't spell it fuck off trolls) more deadly. Even with serious cases of aids a cold can be deadly. The disease by itself isn't deadly. But the affect of the disease is when it weakens you for another disease.

[Spose']

Which is entirely understandable.

A person with a bad back may not show any symptoms of a bad back.

But if you try making them lift something heavy, they sure as fuck are going to show symptoms.

That doesn't mean the heavy lifting suddenly made their back bad.

It just brought it out.

In this case, the bad back is dormant Crohn's, the heavy object is the vaccine, and the person is....a person.

Okay, so my metaphors need work.

In any event, a perfectly healthy person would benefit from the heavy lifting in the form of exercise. So outlawing everything heavier than a TV remote isn't exactly a great idea.

If anything, better genetic screening before vaccination is the only necessary action.

Agreed, 100%.

[Mr. Nemo]

Autism and Crohn's have nothing to do with each other though. One's a neurological disorder the other is an immunological disease. It's like saying paranoia is often misdiagnosed heart disease. I'm assuming you're trying to bring up the fact that autistic people are more prone to digestive disorders? In which case, that's hardly something you can put on a vaccine.

Also, cause: effect. Is it that the vaccine is causing Crohn's disease, or is it that the vaccine (which involves the immune system) is exacerbating an underlying condition (IE: you already had Crohn's, the vaccine just made it worse).

Have you ever had so much alcohol, it affected your brain? Alcohol poisoning affects the body, which in turns affects the mind. Same applies to something like Crohn's disease. You are also correct in that could be an example of cause and effect since quite a few people have that disease in their genes versus gaining it via pollution of the body.

To stop getting away from the actual point, I only wanted to persuade you guys to stop giving these people shit when they aren't important enough to affect change and in reality, you don't know either (I don't know as well, just so you don't think I pulling a mt. pious over here). Both parties have a level of assumption for the majority of conspiracy theories and it only matters when somebody tries to do something drastic with their theory. In other words, leave the crazy hobos alone because the only thing separating you from them is you believe a different authoritative group is correct rather than theirs.

[Mr. Nemo]

Anywho, it's been a pleasure getting to understand you guys. I'm off to play 40k: Fire Warrior. Got it for $4 at a local GoodWill. I visit it every few weeks and spotted it. I'm a fan of the Tau soldier suit and wanted to give it a go.

[Raype]

Have you ever had so much alcohol, it affected your brain? Alcohol poisoning affects the body, which in turns affects the mind. Same applies to something like Crohn's disease. You are also correct in that could be an example of cause and effect since quite a few people have that disease in their genes versus gaining it via pollution of the body.

To stop getting away from the actual point, I only wanted to persuade you guys to stop giving these people shit when they aren't important enough to affect change and in reality, you don't know either (I don't know as well, just so you don't think I pulling a mt. pious over here). Both parties have a level of assumption for the majority of conspiracy theories and it only matters when somebody tries to do something drastic with their theory. In other words, leave the crazy hobos alone because the only thing separating you from them is you believe a different authoritative group is correct rather than theirs.

Being sick in the body implies sickness of the mind? Holy shit, no wonder Hawkings theories are so complicated. He's violently mentally ill!

Psst, my set of beliefs comes from research and has checks and balances. Anyone with a youtube account and a webcam can make a conspiracy theory. But an informative article in a major publication? That has to be accurate. And if it ain't, they have to print a redaction and state the truth. At least, they do in several countries.