The JTAG-out: Make your JTAG stop chewing on the christmas tree.

[Colamisu]

There's a couple that have tried that recently.

It's had....mixed results.

By "mixed", I mean "the fanbase ends up feeling like the translator is a sellout and the publisher is holding the product hostage".

In all fairness. usually they are and they do.

I had a long reply typed out, but I think it's better to just say that I sincerely disagree with that line of thought. It's selling a finished product that was never intended to be sold, like making dreamcatchers as a hobby and having someone see it in your window and offer cash for it. If it were something like the fan translator doing the game because they think a company will buy it, or using Woolseyisms simply because they think the company wants it, fine. That's a sellout. But serendipity isn't selling out.

[Ivolt]

Threads I made have been updated.

This call for...action.

[Colamisu]

Witchcraft and devilry. Tell them to stop toying with your emotions. Also, what you need to do to take those classes, as thats horse-shit.

Yeah, I'm going to talk to my adviser tomorrow and see if they changed the catalog on me again this year. I needed to get my transfer credit and choosing electives taken care of anyway.

[Slacker Magician]

There's a couple that have tried that recently.

It's had....mixed results.

By "mixed", I mean "the fanbase ends up feeling like the translator is a sellout and the publisher is holding the product hostage".

In all fairness. usually they are and they do.

Which is stupid.

[Raype]

I had a long reply typed out, but I think it's better to just say that I sincerely disagree with that line of thought. It's selling a finished product that was never intended to be sold, like making dreamcatchers as a hobby and having someone see it in your window and offer cash for it. If it were something like the fan translator doing the game because they think a company will buy it, or using Woolseyisms simply because they think the company wants it, fine. That's a sellout. But serendipity isn't selling out.

Yeah, here's the thing:

Several have actively sought out companies that pay for fan translations and then say "NOPE, WE AREN'T RELEASING ANY MORE PATCHES. AND THE ONES WE HAD ARE TAKEN DOWN. IF WE SEE YOU POST IT ANYWHERE, EXPECT A CALL FROM OUR LAWYER'

In other instances the second the talks "start". they begin translating exclusively for profit.

[Mistral]

Yeah, here's the thing:

Several have actively sought out companies that pay for fan translations and then say "NOPE, WE AREN'T RELEASING ANY MORE PATCHES. AND THE ONES WE HAD ARE TAKEN DOWN. IF WE SEE YOU POST IT ANYWHERE, EXPECT A CALL FROM OUR LAWYER'

In other instances the second the talks "start". they begin translating exclusively for profit.

True, but I've never really understood the appeal of the "starving artist" schtick, and frankly, building a portfolio with the intention of getting hired isn't a bad thing at all, in art as in programming and translation. At least they make their portfolio publicly and freely available until they sell their product, which is better than keeping it hidden. It also lets companies pick out products that appeal to the target audience in advance, rather than taking their best guess from marketing trends.

Threads I made have been updated.

This call for...action.

PbP Meguca game?

[Slacker Magician]

True, but until they say CC numbers were definitely NOT taken, spread the word, please?

Didn't Steam send the info out to every user, or was it just an announcement on the main page?

I have already begin'd

Speedy .

[Slacker Magician]

Yeah, here's the thing:

Several have actively sought out companies that pay for fan translations and then say "NOPE, WE AREN'T RELEASING ANY MORE PATCHES. AND THE ONES WE HAD ARE TAKEN DOWN. IF WE SEE YOU POST IT ANYWHERE, EXPECT A CALL FROM OUR LAWYER'

In other instances the second the talks "start". they begin translating exclusively for profit.

The company owns the rights and has licensing for the game, they can do whatever they please. If I was fluent in Japanese, I'd do it.

[Raype]

True, but I've never really understood the appeal of the "starving artist" schtick, and frankly, building a portfolio with the intention of getting hired isn't a bad thing at all, in art as in programming and translation. At least they make their portfolio publicly and freely available until they sell their product, which is better than keeping it hidden. It also lets companies pick out products that appeal to the target audience in advance, rather than taking their best guess from marketing trends.

What about when the product hasn't been sold?

And then no one gets the product. Ever.

Even when it's been completed and ready to go for ages.

What? Me? Bitter? Nope!

[Ivolt]

If I can manage to run a game over the internet and keep my sanity, I will.

Then again, if I can run the most idiotic game of Dark Heresy and not shoot half my new players, I can do anything.

Well, short of keeping them alive anymore, fuck that shit.

They will all die, and it will be recorded, and you'll all know how bad of a GM I am, and it will be glorious.

[Raype]

The company owns the rights and has licensing for the game, they can do whatever they please. If I was fluent in Japanese, I'd do it.

In this case, they didn't procure the rights.

They hadn't even contacted the owner of the rights about a licensing deal at this point.

[Slacker Magician]

In this case, they didn't procure the rights.

They hadn't even contacted the owner of the rights about a licensing deal at this point.

The company let them have licensing after that ?

[Mistral]

If I can manage to run a game over the internet and keep my sanity, I will.

Then again, if I can run the most idiotic game of Dark Heresy and not shoot half my new players, I can do anything.

Well, short of keeping them alive anymore, fuck that shit.

They will all die, and it will be recorded, and you'll all know how bad of a GM I am, and it will be glorious.

I keep saying, play Paranoia. That way, all you have to do is keep feeding them more munitions, and occasionally shoot one as a salutary example. You'll be considered the best Paranoia GM ever.
Of course, with your luck, they'll probably start working together with the precision and professionalism of Navy SEALs.

What about when the product hasn't been sold?

And then no one gets the product. Ever.

Even when it's been completed and ready to go for ages.

What? Me? Bitter? Nope!

Oh, I thought you were talking about people who release their fan patch online, then pull it and start whining about its continued distribution if they sell it. Yeah, people who advertise that they did the work and say "neener neener" are somewhat annoying. Ah, Haeleth, I wish you'd had your sudden bout of morality a little...I don't know, a bit before you finished 99% of the translation patch for Kanon. I'm just glad someone else finished the job you started, several years later.

[Slacker Magician]

The company let them have licensing after that ?

I guess they wouldn't care if they got offered enough.

[Ivolt]

I keep saying, play Paranoia. That way, all you have to do is keep feeding them more munitions, and occasionally shoot one as a salutary example. You'll be considered the best Paranoia GM ever.
Of course, with your luck, they'll probably start working together with the precision and professionalism of Navy SEALs.

It would be time for me to redownload those paranoia books. And here I thought 'I'll never use these'.

And then they'll shoot up the complex. Because that's all they do.