Which laptop is better with emulating and playing?

[Zorlon]

Not great no, the boost is great for single core programs... programs that only use a single core, dual core progs will take the speed of the slower core though 1.80 regardless

boosting also will make the laptop more prone to over heating, while like my laptop, that is not a games machine either is on 24/7 and does not over heat, though does get very warm at times anyway so that's not good either and I don't boost anything, it does auto reset from time to time or I manually do if it hasn't done it in a while (usually just auto updates) so it does get a a clean boot every now and then as it is not a good idea to have any machine on 24/7

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...0U+%40+1.80GHz should be of interest

An example of a comparison with both CPU's

That Dell is just not good, not for games anyway and not for Sims3 or GTA

But the IntelHD graphics chip set is the biggest let down as IntelHD is not good and is not AMD, ATI or Nvidia

If you get 2 machines with the exact same stats except for graphics one with Intel graphics and one with Nvidia graphics the Nvidia one will see a huge difference for games

AMD laptops with ATI graphics will also see a huge performance boost over Intel CPU equivalents with Intel graphics chip sets

[BlackCitadel]

So I go for the HP?
But how can the HP CPU overclocked to the same speed?!

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i7-4700MQ CPU @ 2.40GHz 2.40 GHz

[Zorlon]

It's not over clocked that's just it's speed

And yes if you want something that is good then the HP is what you want

HP vs DELL the final struggle

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[BlackCitadel]

Thank you Zorlon!
Well, can this HP be overclocked than this speed 2.40?

[Zorlon]

Read my edit I added more information about the CPUs for you

Both can be over clocked, I don't recommend it but it can be done

Boosting is not the same as over clocking by the way

[BlackCitadel]

Well thanks again.
But if you don't mind, I would like to know again what is the difference between boosting and overclocking?

[Zorlon]

Turbo is when your processor boosts its clock speeds automatically to higher levels... This only happens when your CPU is under load and the max Turbo depends on the CPU...

Overclocking is when you increase the multiplier to to get higher clock speeds all time which means better performance... you can overclock to 4Ghz or 5Ghz or even higher but the more you over clock the greater the heat produced and can destroy the cpu and motherboard if you push it too high

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/...rocessors.html <- overclocking info

If overclocking is not enabled there are 3rd party progs that can do this, but generally it is not a good idea especially with a laptop with a desktop at least you have the option of adding cooling systems (bigger fans, water cooling ect...)

[SOLDIERSeeD]

I agree. It is generally a very bad idea to overclock a laptop. Laptops are built to function properly on factory hardware settings and tend to get hotter due to their slim design that allows only room for one fan and heat sink (the exception being heavily overpriced gaming notebooks with dual cooling). Often CPU speeds of laptops are locked by default and you need to use third-party software to unlock this restriction. Also keep in mind that you will immediately lose the warranty upon fiddling with your CPU clocks.
Turbo Boost, on the other hand, has been implemented and test by Intel and the laptop manufacturer and can be used safely. If the CPU gets too hot, safety systems will automatically downclock the CPU to stock frequency until it has cooled down sufficiently.

[Zorlon]

I agree. It is generally a very bad idea to overclock a laptop. Laptops are built to function properly on factory hardware settings and tend to get hotter due to their slim design that allows only room for one fan and heat sink (the exception being heavily overpriced gaming notebooks with dual cooling). Often CPU speeds of laptops are locked by default and you need to use third-party software to unlock this restriction. Also keep in mind that you will immediately lose the warranty upon fiddling with your CPU clocks.
Turbo Boost, on the other hand, has been implemented and test by Intel and the laptop manufacturer and can be used safely. If the CPU gets too hot, safety systems will automatically downclock the CPU to stock frequency until it has cooled down sufficiently.

Am I correct in thinking that even if the DELL and HP both used the same GHz that the HP would be fasted due to the 4 Physical Cores vs 2 Physical Cores, that is if all cores are actually used, in effect being 2.4 GHz x4 instead of 2.4 GHz x2?

[SOLDIERSeeD]

Am I correct in thinking that even if the DELL and HP both used the same GHz that the HP would be fasted due to the 4 Physical Cores vs 2 Physical Cores, that is if all cores are actually used, in effect being 2.4 GHz x4 instead of 2.4 GHz x2?

Yeah, your assumption is right. Multi-threaded applications and video encoding programs will benefit from having 4 physical cores, whereas programs like Dolphin which use 2 cores (not counting the LLE to thread option), there will be no discernible difference. However, having more physical cores on disposal means that more programs can be run in the background without impairing systems performance. It also depends on the CPU microarchitecture: Dell's CPU is modeled to perform lightweight tasks and would presumably not reach the 4700 MQ's performance even if it had a base clock speed of 2,4 GHz.
But overall, you can't do wrong by getting a Quad core, it will be at least always be on par or better than an dual core, provided they have the same CPU clock speed and comparable archictecure.

[BlackCitadel]

Well, I will buy that 2.40GHz HP one.
So how will it perform with emulating PS2?
And how would you advise me? Do you recommend me to overclock it? If yes, How far do you recommend me to overclock it?

[Zorlon]

Well, I will buy that 2.40GHz HP one.
So how will it perform with emulating PS2?
And how would you advise me? Do you recommend me to overclock it? If yes, How far do you recommend me to overclock it?

See SOLDIERSeeD's first post in this thread he answered that better than I did.

No to the overclocking Q but it should not be needed anyway.

If it has support in the laptops bios you may give that a go but use the minimal settings, but that will produce a lot more heat

[BlackCitadel]

So that HP doesn't need overclocking and overclocking it will throw it in over-heat danger!!
And when I emulate a PS2 game, it will boost automatically?

[Zorlon]

The HP does not use boosting

The HP if an emulator can use 4 cores that is 2.4GHz x 4 = 9.6GHz even if an emulator only supported 2 cores that is still a combined 2.4GHz x 2 = 4.8Ghz that should be plenty for CPU use for PS2 emulation

from what I have read though pcsx2 can use up to 3 cores so for the HP laptop that is 2.4GHz x 3 = 7.2GHz

The Dell though can either boost itself to 2.4GHz on a single core or have a combined 1.8GHz x2 = 3.6GHz

[SOLDIERSeeD]

The HP does not use boosting

The HP if an emulator can use 4 cores that is 2.4GHz x 4 = 9.6GHz even if an emulator only supported 2 cores that is still a combined 2.4GHz x 2 = 4.8Ghz that should be plenty for CPU use for PS2 emulation

from what I have read though pcsx2 can use up to 3 cores so for the HP laptop that is 2.4GHz x 3 = 7.2GHz

The Dell though can either boost itself to 2.4GHz on a single core or have a combined 1.8GHz x2 = 3.6GHz

Sadly, that's not how it works. You cannot just multiply the CPU frequency with the number of cores to determine an aggregate CPU speed, because each core is a separate physical unit. The i7 4700 MQ in the HP laptop features four phsysical core units each clocking at 2,4 GHz - they do do NOT add up.
And one more thing, the HP does use Turbo Boost up to 3,4 Ghz on a single core and a bit less if more cores are stressed. And you can bet that without this convenient feature, many games would lag, as 2,4 GHz is a bit slow for emulating all PS2 games at full speed. Especially more demanding games like Metal Gear Solid 2+3 or Ratchet and Clank desperately need the Turbo Boost to run fluently.

@OP: Yes, once the CPU reserves has been maxed out by an application, it will Boost automatically; you can even monitor your clock speed with programs like CPU-Z if you want to see for yourself.