Hey guys,
Basically I want to download Shenmue PAL from this site and I have seen its about 1.23GB, my CD is only 700MB. how can I make it fit??
Cheers
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Hey guys,
Basically I want to download Shenmue PAL from this site and I have seen its about 1.23GB, my CD is only 700MB. how can I make it fit??
Cheers
You don't burn 1.23GB to a 700MB CD-R, you burn the 3 discs to 3 separate CD-Rs. :wacko:
Ah thats great, So once I download and open it they come in three files? oh and what is the best software to burn it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno.
I'll get DLing :)
cheers
Should be three separate disc images yes. Although technically Shenmue is a 4 disc game (disc 4 is just a Passport disc with some extras and stuff. It's not really necessary).Quote:
Originally Posted by GTA656
Cheers and what is the best burning software for Dreamcast games? :)
ImgBurn
Alcohol 120%
DiscJuggler
Nero
Brilliant thanks again :)
Would you mind linking to the thread you got the links from?
i got them from here: http://www.emuparadise.me/Sega_Dream...ue_(PAL)/51697
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTA656
I wanted to make sure you hadn't grabbed the GDI dump, as you wouldn't have been able to just burn it.
Cheers, I really appreciate ur help lol, otherwise I would've wasted 3 CDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mao-nax
You should be able to burn off the disc images from the main site just fine, sorry if I confused you.Quote:
Originally Posted by GTA656
If you're wondering how to use the RAR file: http://www.epforums.org/showthread.p...to-Handle-Them
Something that seems to be missed for ImgBurn but in order to burn cdi images that had more than one session (these CD images do) you do need a lil more than just the prog unless there have been changes since I last looked (there may of been)
just grab the link tagged "mirror", I'm sure last time the official sited dll was moved from the official site, so it may or may not be there now, the imgburn link is fine thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Zorlon
ImgBurn tends to be the best burning software around, easy to use and gets the job done.. what more could you wish for :)
Nero I would edge against unless you have certain older versions, seems the newer versions you get with nero the more unstable it gets... it's pay for software anyway unless you get it free with hardware
Discjuggler is great if you can get it running correctly (some do have problems with it, otherwise it was the best for Dreamcast) [Limited free version is enough, it mostly limits burning speed, but it's best to burn at the slowest speed anyway]
Alcohol... just not worth it, it's pay software and has nothing going for it that you can't do for free and with less complications
I was just throwing some names out there, not really recommending. I haven't burned Dreamcast games for years and when I did it was Alcohol 120% and Nero 5.5 that I used.
fair enough :)
I just felt a lil more was needed to be added
P.S. 5.5 was the version of Nero to use in the day, used it plenty myself and was needed for certain 90 & 99 min CD-R rips, DJ or Alcohol for the rest, though DJ was the free way go also CloneCD was used for a few CD images though I used to just mount those in D-Tools and still used DJ back then (Never actually used CloneCD)
I use Discjuggler to burn the .gdi Images for Dreamcast and works fine
You lie because GDI images are apx 1.2GB and are not compatible with any CD burning software/hardware, you would require a GD-Rom wrighter and blank GD-R discs that are both near impossible to find and would cost a rather large amount (the GD stands for Gigabyte Disc, an inner layer of 1GB (hence GD) and outer layer of standard CD of apx 200MB, often used just for music tracks but sometimes had PC files on there, though no standard PC drive can read the inner layer, but can read the standard CD outer layer)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave The Man
I'm guessing a mojor error rather than a lie :P
cdi images are Discjuggler images and can be burned freely with either ImgBurn or the trial version of Discjuggler, but I would recomend ImgBurn nowerdays as it has more image compatibility, as in it doesn't just support Dreamcast cdi images but also multi session bin+cue images that no other burning software does, the only image format I wouldn't be 100% sure with ImgBurn (mostly because I have not tried) would be nrg format ones (Nero) but you can mount those with D-Tools and use ImgBurn to copy directly from the virtual drive to a CD-R, the same with those Alcohol and CloneCD images though nowerdays Nero Alcohol and CloneCD images are hardly ever used for Dreamcast images, most cdi and a few of the newer images are in bin+cue (selfboot)
Be carefull if you come accross a bin+cue format though and check the cue file with notepad and make sure it has more than one session in it, as bin+cue format used to only ever be a single session none bootable disc format for use with either a mod chip or used via the Utopia boot CD
Thanks guys, Im gonna try out Discjuggler :) and see how it goes.
Woops I mean .CDI not .GDI as I pressed the Wrong One again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorlon
Well I burn .CDI Files quite Fine with Discjuggler.
That was Embarssing
Ok well I downloaded DiscJuggler and trying to burn shenmue, its read my drive and says I have bland CD which I just inserted. but the Start button stay blank for some reason? any help?
Not Sure what you mean. Can you show us some Screenshots of what you mean pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by GTA656
No worries got it burned and tested on Dreamcast all working :)
Btw does anyone know if its possible to play a Jap DC ISO game on a PAL console?
Yes they'll work fine. Region locking was removed when hacking the game into a selfbooting disc image. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GTA656
That's brilliant thanks man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno.
Quick guide to DiscJuggler (trial version)
first pick the burn from CD image option
Ignore message about burning size limit (just hit OK when prompted (think it's a 700MB limit I don't remember off hand))
find the option to set overburn to on (sorry I don't rember the location of the option offhand)
select the cdi image
If asked to repair a CD image say no (alot of CD images will ask this (if you say yes it messes up the selfboot session and makes the game unbootable))
(free version you do not need to set a burn speed, it will always atempt to burn at the slowest speed anyway) paid version set the burn speed to x1
insert your blank CD
hit the burn button
wait for the thing to complete
pop your newly burned CD into the good olde Dreamcast and enjoy
P.S. I originally burned Shenmue via DiscJuggler (Trial version) years ago and everything went fine, newer burns I done with ImgBurn, this includes Shenmue and Shenmue II, both PAL (Not that you have much choice with Shenmue II)
P.P.S. The limit of 700MB or whatever it was does not reflect on the size of the CD image, as the contents for exaqmple of a 750MB CD image will be less than 750MB
Thats great cheer Zorlon
This was handy, and I completely forgot about D.J. for D.C.
Hi Zorlon,
you appear to be the resident guru on this subject so i was hoping you could help me out. Ive been out of the Dreamcast scene now for some years, so i tried to burn the .cdi files in the same was as i did before. I will break this down as follows:
My System running Windows 7 64 bit
Attempt 1:
Discjuggler 6 with the following settings -
Clicked advanced, and set the following:
1) Mode: Mode 2
2) Offset: 0
3) Block: 2336
4) TOC: CD-XA
5) Misc - Overburn Disc is ticked and Add post gap
6) Set speed to lowest in action
This resulted in failure. I tried burns with alternative block numbers which resulted in failure. I also adjusted the TOC type to all settings and all burns failed.
Attempt 2:
Imgburn with the required additional files downloaded from your link
Imgburn successfully burned the game but the dreamcast fails to boot.
I am wondering if i am doing something fundamentally wrong here, or if im just being a tit and missing something simple out. Back when i was into the dreamcast first time around, i remember there was talk that only certain models of dreamcast could actually boot burned discs, is that the case or was that rumour mongering at its finest?
I appreciate any guidance you can offer on this :)
This is true; the newest models won't boot selfboot cdi image type burned games. Here's a thread on the subject, funny enough, by Zorlon; http://www.epforums.org/showthread.p...-CompatibilityQuote:
Originally Posted by bennett_2009
Cool, that explains why my games aren't booting then, Ive got the latest model Dreamcast. My next question is, can you remove the part of the .cdi that makes it selfboot so i can run games with something like the utopia disc? I've found plenty of guides on how to make a disc selfboot, but nothing on how to remove it.
Why would you want to do that? But all you have to do is open the image with something like UltraISO and extract the data track. Then burn it to a disc. But why? :?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennett_2009
Because according to the guide previously linked, my model dreamcast won't support selfboot burns. I've tried a game I know was burned ok as it boots on a friends system no problem, but it's a non starter, and when I try to boot a selfboot game through utopia it fails to load, presumably because selfboot discs won't read properly under a boot disc?
I wish I didn't have to, it's a fuss but I have a few games I want to play so it's a minor inconvenience I suppose, unless there is another guru out there who can further advise me of a better plan?
I appreciate your responses guys, it's always nice to be part of a helpful forum :)
Oh I see. Well try what I just suggested and see if you have any luck. :)
Ive tried mounting the .cdi with a program called magic iso which was ok, the drive saw it and all was well. I tried to create another image using imgburn, which resulted in a file that read as having only 1 session in Disc Juggler, which i understand means that the selfboot part is no longer there. Burned it, booted utopia, put the disc in and......
nothing, just sorta hangs there and twitches
ive probably not done the extracting bit properly, and made a bad disc image. Any thoughts on the best way to pull this off?
Cheers :)
Im actually completely confused now...I just checked my Dreamcast against Zorlons guide (http://www.epforums.org/showthread.p...-Compatibility) and it appears that my machine should in fact be Mil-CD compatible :S so maybe i am just burning them incorrectly? However, i have burned them in the past and never had a problem. Are there issues burning dreamcast games in a 64 bit windows 7 environment? the last time i burned DC games successfully was in the Windows XP days.
What version do you have Mate?
I have a PAL 3030
I thought all PAL DC's were Mil-CD :thot:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennett_2009
When you say you've "burned them in the past and never had a problem" do you mean no problem with your current console?
If so it's possible you may have a laser issue (it may be working sometimes with some media).
As for burning stuff on a newer OS/hardware............make sure you're burning at the lowest possible speed (and not at 8x or 16x).
^this. I've burned multiple copies of certain games after the first one or two don't work, and then the ones that didn't work at first will randomly start working later after a few tries.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion