Should I get a PS2?

Hi lovely people.
I've got a question for you. I hope you don't mind.

I've been saving quite a bit of money from my last months of work and finally I got enough for a PS3.
Wait, wait, wait, aren't these like 300 these days?
Well, yes, and no. My country's currency is devaluated 4-to-1.
1200, then?
No, still no. On average, they cost somewhere between 2000 and 2500 (160 gb. model).

So I said, well, I'll get a PS2 instead! (800) but I know little about it and I'd like to have your opinion on it on terms of hardware and games.
I like (mostly) action based games: shoot-em-ups, platformers, rhythm/music, run and gun, hack and slash, some RTS, maybe some TPS and maybe some strategy. No FPS and no turn-based RPG.

What do you say?

What country are you from?
It ain't Japan. :wacko:
RTS should've never gone onto consoles, at least modern ones not meant to play on PC.
The PS2 has a good selection of every Genre. Even if they're japan only games. :wacko:
So get a PS2 unless you want some people to try to get more platinums. :lol
Some recommendations for some genres are Metal Slug ( I think that isn't Japan only.) Guitar Hero, Crash Bandicoot, Dynasty Warriors.

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

What country are you from?
It ain't Japan. :wacko:
RTS should've never gone onto consoles, at least modern ones not meant to play on PC.
The PS2 has a good selection of every Genre. Even if they're japan only games. :wacko:
So get a PS2 unless you want some people to try to get more platinums. :lol
Some recommendations for some genres are Metal Slug ( I think that isn't Japan only.) Guitar Hero, Crash Bandicoot, Dynasty Warriors.

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HUGE fan of Metal Slug and Crash. And for the GH series, yeah, they're pretty cool games. Willing to pay for plastic drums as well!

I'd definitely go for the PS2 unless you tend to get the PS3 cheaper through other means instead of buying at retail. I don't have a PS3 myself but from what I can tell the PS2 seems like it would be more up your alley since it seems you really just want to play something fun during your free time instead of doling out cash for the newest thing. As for platformers I would recommend the Jak series if you haven't played them already.

PS2 also has a large collection of games that are relatively cheap to buy.

Honestly, as stated above, with the wide variity of gaming generas and and easy access to most of the game, there really isn't a reason not to get a ps2. Aside from all that, it plays dvds/cd and with a bit of moding, can do some other cool things to.

Yes! its very much worth getting a PS2!

So many great games it will take a very very long time to get bored of the machine, and it has Timesplitters 2 and Future Perfect... what more could you want :wacko:

if you can get your hands on a Fat Model PS2 (made in japan) Most Definitely GET IT.

I Own 4 PS2s, need I say more? :wacko:

A million times yes. It's a great console with a really strong library of games. I doubt you'll regret getting one, I sure as hell didn't.

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Originally Posted by Gare

A million times yes. It's a great console with a really strong library of games. I doubt you'll regret getting one, I sure as hell didn't.

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Very true. It has such a huge library of games that I would say anyone who considers them self a gamer could find at least 15 titles they like.

It's pretty much a unanimous 'yes'. It's considered to be one, if not the, most successful consoles and it has over 2000 titles available. That being said, I own 3.

I don't own one though. Still a great system, but I prefer the DREAMCAST.

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

I don't own one though. Still a great system, but I prefer the DREAMCAST.

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Yes, dreamcast is also a good option.

Well, it seems to be unanimous.
Considering the genres I've listed and some I previously did not (shoot-em-ups, platformers, rhythm/music, racing, run and gun, adventure, hack and slash, TPS, strategy), could you recommend me some games?
I've got some I want to try already like Mega Man X8, Gitaroo Man, GH/Rock Band series, Out Run 2006, GoW 1&2, Mushihime-sama, Psyvariar, Thunder Force 6, Ratchet and Clank series, GTA... I've liked Daxter on the PSP and Spyro on PS1 so I'd like to try Jak and Daxter as well.
Personal favorites would be better than critically acclaimed ones :)

I mostly like turn-based rpgs so I can't help too much but here are some.

Blood Will Tell, Shadow of the Colossus, any Armored Core game.

If you really dig shoot em ups the Dreamcast is absolutely great for that.

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Originally Posted by Gypsy

I mostly like turn-based rpgs so I can't help too much but here are some.

Blood Will Tell, Shadow of the Colossus, any Armored Core game.

If you really dig shoot em ups the Dreamcast is absolutely great for that.

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*cough* Giga Wing* cough*
Aren'tmost of ths shumps for DC Japan Only?
Good thing there's no Cd-r protection, or region locking.

DC does have region locking but 1) it's easy to bypass and 2) doesn't matter for burned games as long as they are made self-booting.

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Originally Posted by Nemesis

*cough* Giga Wing* cough*
Aren'tmost of ths shumps for DC Japan Only?
Good thing there's no Cd-r protection, or region locking.

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To all who mentioned the Dreamcast.
I love SEGA but where I live, the DC barely made a mark and nowadays you can't get it. Not even used. And no, if you're wondering, it'd be easier to jump off a bridge without a rope and survive than import used electronic goods here. I love greedy politics towards importation.

On that topic, dammit, SEGA, make a new console!

*ehem* PS2, it is.
Oh, and, real time RPGs are fine too. It's just that I hardly know of any and they are 1 to 25 ratio against turn-based ones.
Thanks everyone who suggested thus far!


Oh, a question that's been bugging me a bit. Has Sony ever released or gave support to a 3rd party wireless controller for the PS2? Or maybe there's a way to get the Dualshock 3 to work wirelessly with the PS2?

Spoiler warning:

I have to admit, the questions do sound stupid.

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Originally Posted by SpiralPegasus

To all who mentioned the Dreamcast.
I love SEGA but where I live, the DC barely made a mark and nowadays you can't get it. Not even used. And no, if you're wondering, it'd be easier to jump off a bridge without a rope and survive than import used electronic goods here. I love greedy politics towards importation.

On that topic, dammit, SEGA, make a new console!

*ehem* PS2, it is.
Oh, and, real time RPGs are fine too. It's just that I hardly know of any and they are 1 to 25 ratio against turn-based ones.
Thanks everyone who suggested thus far!

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Real time RPGs.
Star Ocean.
Tales of Legenia/Abyss/ whatever other tale games.
And you still haven't told us what country you live in.

I'd say Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (both games) and Champions: Return to Arms for Action-RPG's (hack'n'slash)
Odin Sphere, Kingdom Hearts 1 + 2 and the .hack games for Real-time RPG's
And Disgaea: Hour of Darkness for Strategy (it's turn-based though)

And seconded on the Tales of... games

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Originally Posted by SpiralPegasus

To all who mentioned the Dreamcast.
I love SEGA but where I live, the DC barely made a mark and nowadays you can't get it. Not even used. And no, if you're wondering, it'd be easier to jump off a bridge without a rope and survive than import used electronic goods here. I love greedy politics towards importation.

On that topic, dammit, SEGA, make a new console!

*ehem* PS2, it is.
Oh, and, real time RPGs are fine too. It's just that I hardly know of any and they are 1 to 25 ratio against turn-based ones.
Thanks everyone who suggested thus far!


Oh, a question that's been bugging me a bit. Has Sony ever released or gave support to a 3rd party wireless controller for the PS2? Or maybe there's a way to get the Dualshock 3 to work wirelessly with the PS2?

Spoiler warning:

I have to admit, the questions do sound stupid.

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I have to know what country you live in now...

No idea about the controllers.

I'll second everything kuro said except Kingdom Hearts.

Argentina.
Not counting our politicians (and the laws they make for their profit) it's a nice place to live in.

Um, just one or two RPGs are fine.

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And I'd prefer them not be made by Sqeenix nor Atlus.

The ones listed so far are enough, thanks :wacko:

I'd recommend Zone of the Enders 1 and 2. It's an mecha action game and one of my personal favorites.

In Brazil we have a politics about imported electronic stuff.

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Originally Posted by TheRealSpiders

I'd recommend Zone of the Enders 1 and 2. It's an mecha action game and one of my personal favorites.

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I only have one thing to say about this: FUCK YEAH!

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Originally Posted by sp

Argentina.
Not counting our politicians (and the laws they make for their profit) it's a nice place to live in.

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Ah cool.

u should get one, even though i don have a ps2, i always play with my cousin using theirs during the new year. unless ur patience and save a little more, then you should get ps3. im more of the kind of dude that want new stuff. provided that ps3 games have better graphics. my eye cant take too much low pixel/low quality or watever it's call. even watching 360p anime makes my eye hurts.

If you are still looking for a good game, i would suggest "Dark Cloud 2" it is by far one of my favourite games. It is an RPG game with some really unique features. Enemies will drop certain material such as logs and other material, witch you then have to go and build city's with and make people happy. You may also take pictures of objects then combine them to make inventions, then use items to make them. It also has fishing contests and a golf type minigame. Anyways i think it is a good game and worth giving a try, if you are still looking for one.

Glad I still have the 60 gig fat with a 320 gig hard drive. Best PS3 in my opinion.

No doubt, but unless you got one early well yeah...it's tough to find BC PS3s now. I settled on a 20gb model a couple years ago.

I would recommend soft modding your PS2 with Free MC Boot, it lets you play burned games that you downloaded on your system without doing any hardware mods. Its also better than swap disk because you don't have to swap a disk out. My fat PS2 is free MC boot modded, and works like a charm. I even setup a HDD loader that will play the games off an HDD, but its not compatible with some games. You need a network adapter to use the HDD loader function.

As for the PS3, there is no reason to pay Sony a premium just for a larger HDD, you can buy a 500GB HDD for your PS3 for around 60 dollars, which is more space than most people will ever use.

Definitely, free mcboot is awesome.

I haven't even bothered changing HDDs in either of my ps3s because it's not an issue. I bought my 20gb ps3 model used and it had a larger HDD in it though.

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Originally Posted by crimsonedge

I would recommend soft modding your PS2 with Free MC Boot, it lets you play burned games that you downloaded on your system without doing any hardware mods. Its also better than swap disk because you don't have to swap a disk out. My fat PS2 is free MC boot modded, and works like a charm. I even setup a HDD loader that will play the games off an HDD, but its not compatible with some games. You need a network adapter to use the HDD loader function.

As for the PS3, there is no reason to pay Sony a premium just for a larger HDD, you can buy a 500GB HDD for your PS3 for around 60 dollars, which is more space than most people will ever use.

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I appreciate the input. However all PS2s around here where I live already are chipped, so... :P
Besides, it's not that I want a big HD if I ever get a PS3 - point is, there ain't anything smaller. I have an external HDD, that's not the problem hahaha

If you dont care about high end modern graphics then i'd say PS2. It has so many great games that it will make your head spin. Oh and did i mention modchip?

The old school Xbox is a good option, their quite reliable too, everyone i know that has had a ps2 has had some form of problem it. My dad bought one and it spent most of its life in the shop getting repaired he had had enough of it by the time the warranty ran out. The ps1 is a completely different, story mine still works fine after 10 or more years its a shame there so outdated.

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Originally Posted by joe blogs

The old school Xbox is a good option, their quite reliable too, everyone i know that has had a ps2 has had some form of problem it. My dad bought one and it spent most of its life in the shop getting repaired he had had enough of it by the time the warranty ran out. The ps1 is a completely different, story mine still works fine after 10 or more years its a shame there so outdated.

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The lasers are the weakest part in the PS2, the motherboard itself will probably last forever.

Old PS2 + FMCB memory card + HDLoader + Network adapter + Decent size IDE HDD = :]

i think you are right about the lasers, it went through a ton of them, there might be a market in selling after market lasers of better quality than the ones Sony uses.

I'm just repeating everyone else, but yes get a ps2! It will be cheaper and already has a huge library of games.

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Originally Posted by SpiralPegasus

Well, it seems to be unanimous.

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Well, in defense of the PS3, the PS2 does not have near the multimedia capabilities of the PS3. You can't play Blu-Ray, surf the web, or watch Netflix on a PS2. You also can't just plug in a flash drive that has your movies and music stored on it and simply play it on your TV/Stereo from there. Hell, you can't even look at pictures.
The worst thing (for me, anyways) is that the PS2 has no online multiplayer anymore.

That's not to say that that the PS2 is a bad system. In fact I own two, one mod'd and the other unmod'd, and I love them both. Just remember that you are not only getting a console (other than the Sony fanboys I know, most of my friends got it because it was not that much more expensive than a regular Blu-Ray player) and that the PS3 is at least somewhat backwards compatible. It really just depends on what you want out of your system.

Anyways, I would specifically recommend: Bully, Star Wars: Battlefront II, Resident Evil 4, Ultimate Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction, Destroy All Humans! (skip the second one), Gun, Prince of Persia, and Psychonauts.

And you might like: God Hand, Tomb Raider Aniversary, Mega Man X Collection, Marvel: Ultimate Alliance, and if you want some mindless fun the Lego Star Wars games.

Oh, and some people like Scarface: The World is Yours and The Godfather. I didn't, but you might.

Dude just get it!, The older ps2s with the HDD port are the best, no problem of over heating, you get the hard drive that goes into it and if your really crafty, you can hack the ps2 and turn it into a computer.

Also the Playstation has so many titles that its just crazy, about 10,000 games for it and it's only been out for less than 10 years. Compared this has more games than all the other game stations combined!!!

So...uh good luck in your choice. ;-)

You mean you haven't played a PS2 game or something?

Goddamn, forget about current gen consoles then, the PS2 is filled with so many jewels that you'll lack time going through them all, though it's a shame you don't like turn-based RPG's, but there's still a great selection for you.

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Well, in defense of the PS3, the PS2 does not have near the multimedia capabilities of the PS3. You can't play Blu-Ray, surf the web, or watch Netflix on a PS2. You also can't just plug in a flash drive that has your movies and music stored on it and simply play it on your TV/Stereo from there. Hell, you can't even look at pictures.
The worst thing (for me, anyways) is that the PS2 has no online multiplayer anymore.

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If he's going for games only I don't see the problem with it, he currently owns a computer and a internet connection, so he can watch movies, pictures and all the yadda yadda on his computer. :P

The only cons I see are the new games, no online multiplayer and the lack of a Bluray. If those are the cons against a ten year old console, it's not too bad to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Will98

Dude just get it!, The older ps2s with the HDD port are the best, no problem of over heating, you get the hard drive that goes into it and if your really crafty, you can hack the ps2 and turn it into a computer.

Also the Playstation has so many titles that its just crazy, about 10,000 games for it and it's only been out for less than 10 years. Compared this has more games than all the other game stations combined!!!

So...uh good luck in your choice. ;-)

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Why anyone would want to actually run Linux on a PS2 is beyond me. That 200MHz processor is going to be painfully slow.

Hell, Linux is bad on the XBOX as well due to its 64MB of RAM. :whistle: