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Also, military think tanks propose a lot of options. It's pretty unlikely they even seriously considered anything that was brought up. There could very well have been thousands of potential "plans" there. He may never have even read it for all we know. When the CMC hit, everybody was working overtime to figure out how to end it. When you're trying to stop the end of the world, you kind of pull out all the stops.
Vaccines are just the dead virus's being inject or inhaled into your body while weak so your Cells can learn what they are and can kill them faster when and if you catch the virus it will die faster. You have a higher risk of getting the flu from a vaccine than autism.
On the xbox thread i proved you wrong by stating that my opinion was already posted and my corrections were all facts from multiple articles on the same topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Nemo
The Sony patent thread was already a dead topic you just brought back. This is a dead matter also. No need to reply on it.
I dunno, I mean it's kind of hard to quantify in a lab. It's entirely possible he's right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spose'
Then again, I seem to recall there being some sort of correlation between close proximity to guns at the point of conception and having a small penis. So make of that what you will.
I figured you would go for jokes. The actual theory is the MMR vaccine encourages Crohn's disease. Most Autism cases is really Crohn's disease and both diseases show similar symptoms to the point they are confused as Autism. I was just using that as an example, not to be mocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
Also, we all know the government made aids to make the general population weak so that they can't rebel and attempt to over throw the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
Autism and Crohn's have nothing to do with each other though. One's a neurological disorder the other is an immunological disease. It's like saying paranoia is often misdiagnosed heart disease. I'm assuming you're trying to bring up the fact that autistic people are more prone to digestive disorders? In which case, that's hardly something you can put on a vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Nemo
Also, cause: effect. Is it that the vaccine is causing Crohn's disease, or is it that the vaccine (which involves the immune system) is exacerbating an underlying condition (IE: you already had Crohn's, the vaccine just made it worse).
On topic would be that my dad's girlfriend had Crohn's disease, it only increased activity after recieving a certain shot (They were not certain as to which one exactly). But it was always there. It was just more dormit in a way. The vaccines just had a affect toward's the disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
Oh please, you can't still believe that silly thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spose'
In the entire history of the world, not one single person has ever died from AIDS.
No, really. Look it up.
No one ever dies of AIDS. Ever.
AIDS is therefore totally harmless. IMPECCABLE LOGIC! :wacko:
Which is entirely understandable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spose'
A person with a bad back may not show any symptoms of a bad back.
But if you try making them lift something heavy, they sure as fuck are going to show symptoms.
That doesn't mean the heavy lifting suddenly made their back bad.
It just brought it out.
In this case, the bad back is dormant Crohn's, the heavy object is the vaccine, and the person is....a person.
Okay, so my metaphors need work.
In any event, a perfectly healthy person would benefit from the heavy lifting in the form of exercise. So outlawing everything heavier than a TV remote isn't exactly a great idea.
If anything, better genetic screening before vaccination is the only necessary action.
I know just another theory that would be deemed "Possible" .Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
The only thing aids really does is weaken the immune system as he fights it making diseases like pnemunia (Can't spell it fuck off trolls) more deadly. Even with serious cases of aids a cold can be deadly. The disease by itself isn't deadly. But the affect of the disease is when it weakens you for another disease.
Agreed, 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
Have you ever had so much alcohol, it affected your brain? Alcohol poisoning affects the body, which in turns affects the mind. Same applies to something like Crohn's disease. You are also correct in that could be an example of cause and effect since quite a few people have that disease in their genes versus gaining it via pollution of the body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
To stop getting away from the actual point, I only wanted to persuade you guys to stop giving these people shit when they aren't important enough to affect change and in reality, you don't know either (I don't know as well, just so you don't think I pulling a mt. pious over here). Both parties have a level of assumption for the majority of conspiracy theories and it only matters when somebody tries to do something drastic with their theory. In other words, leave the crazy hobos alone because the only thing separating you from them is you believe a different authoritative group is correct rather than theirs.
Anywho, it's been a pleasure getting to understand you guys. I'm off to play 40k: Fire Warrior. Got it for $4 at a local GoodWill. I visit it every few weeks and spotted it. I'm a fan of the Tau soldier suit and wanted to give it a go.
Being sick in the body implies sickness of the mind? Holy shit, no wonder Hawkings theories are so complicated. He's violently mentally ill!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Nemo
Psst, my set of beliefs comes from research and has checks and balances. Anyone with a youtube account and a webcam can make a conspiracy theory. But an informative article in a major publication? That has to be accurate. And if it ain't, they have to print a redaction and state the truth. At least, they do in several countries.
Also, once that alcohol is out of your system, your body goes completely back to normal. So I don't quite see where you're going with that one. The vaccine leaves your system in much the same way. Believe it or not, once something is in your blood, it doesn't stay there.
No, alcohol does not make you dumber. Alcoholics are not stupider than the normal person. Well, maybe. I mean, if you're dumb enough to get that drunk repeatedly you probably weren't that smart in the first place. :wacko:
Oh god, what have I walked into?
I believe it's a discussion of basic biological process.
Hey, you happen to have one o' them fancy doodads that says you know about the stuff inside people. Maybe you should weigh in on us and learn us a lesson good on how getting a teeny tiny little bug somehow completely rewrites your brain.
Once Crohn's Disease go away, you return to normal as well. How is that so hard to see? You linked a physical problem that shouldn't affect the mind and I gave you an example of a physical problem that does affect the mind as an analogy that your assumption can be flawed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
@Milady: Just two-three people talking about theories to conspire. It's been very informative in understanding their point of view.
I'm so not even going there.
I'm just going to find comfort in the fact that the only person involved in this conversation whom I happen to be fond of is the only one that doesn't sound like a complete loon.
<3
Also, I have been enjoying the many points in the conversation when the responses were very obvious TL;DR.
Crohn's disease doesn't go away.
Neither does autism.
They must be the same. :wacko:
Implies that i'm a loon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milady
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It shouldn't but does? I don't think as many people drink alcohol for the taste as you seem to think. Besides that, it's completely different. Alcohol is a foreign substance that you're ingesting in massive quantities. Crohn's is a disorder of your own body. And I don't see how a mass of cells no bigger than the tip of a needle is going to cause the same effect as chugging a large bottle that happens to be 20-30% alcohol by volume.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Nemo
Besides that, are you saying you somehow get Crohn's from the needle, then it goes away without any symptoms whatsoever until you spontaneously develop autism, when there's not a lick of evidence that autism is something that "develops" at all? Despite you clearly knowing that a foreign substance generally has an immediate effect even in smallish doses (hello allergies!). What is this I don't even.
Sounds reasonable to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milady
Then again, I tend to drink a lot so I'm stupid. Also I may have hepatitis. I mean, my brain gets all fuzzy sometimes when I drink this beer stuff.
I would love to stick around and watch, as one finds it difficult to look away from a burning building or a gruesome highway accident, but alas, I feel terribly exhausted.
Goodnight, Ray. And good luck~! :lol
IKR?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
The one thing i don't seem to fucking understand is how 5-7% alchohol gets me drunker faster then shots of 40+ %.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
Seriously. The logic makes little sense to me.
Probably because you're drinking more of it faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spose'
If you drink something that's 7% but you're drinking more than 6 times as much (which you probably are since shots tend to be fucking tiny in most places) then you're ingesting more alcohol in the long run. Compare the size of a beer to a shot glass. You're probably looking at 20-30 times the size, and therefore far more alcohol total.
With shots you're also probably taking them in gradual doses over a period of time. Whereas with other drinks you're providing a constant stream. A mouth full every few seconds. If you were doing (a lot of) rapid fire shots you'd probably get drunk faster. But most people don't.
Logical. Which kinda explains why malt liquor fucks me up SO fast compared to anything else. But where i am a "Shot" Takes 3-4 fast drinks. I'll look for a picture of what the glasses we have are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
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Which we use for all types of vodka and shit at my dads. But i guess the beer logic does make sense. Its just what 6-10 of those sized shots should do to me. And what it does seems a bit odd. But then again Half a thing of malt liquor (Blast) Gets me close to black out lmao.
That is fairly large for a shotglass. But I guess it's not quite gigantic or anything either.
The malt liquor gives you a good combination of both. It has high liquor content and it's something you can drink easily and in large quantities. Between those two factors you have a beverage that really gets you drunk fast. Which is why malt liquor is one of those things most people drink to get drunk, rather than to enjoy a mild intoxication or a "social drink".
It's also why you don't see most people drinking several shots in succession. The people that do that aren't likely to be up to much of anything afterwards. Shots helps prevent people from getting too drunk too fast. Small shots that you'd find in bars are also part of that. Bars make their money off drinkers, not drunks. :wacko:
I was going to say this, but I wasn't sure. I just figured that if Crohn's was a temporary thing, my friend who has suffered from it for however many years would be over it by now. :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by Milady
Yeah, plus i'm a pretty big lightweight since i rarely drink and the first time was when i was 15 1/2 (About a half a year ago). I really only do it when my dad's girlfriends kids or over or out mutual friend is staying for a few days. I just found that it takes 2.5-3 beers for me to get well off but i typicaly drink about 5 Coors light by the end of the night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
I think we have a huge shotglass because the parents are vetreans and my dad's girlfriend does a shit load a jeager bombs and god the storys i could tell you that she talks to me about when shes waisted off rum or vodka :wacko:
I thought maybe Nemo was trolling i was going to point it out but Milady got to it first :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Elin
I'll continue giving the anti-vaxxers shit right up until they do the world a favour and walk off a tall bridge wearing cement shoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Nemo
Thanks to those fuckers, we've got Polio outbreaks for the first time in half a century.
BUT I NEVER GOT A VACCINE AND I'M TOTALLY FINE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Mario
Herd immunity is a myth propagated by the pro-vax.
NO SUCH THING I SAY!
:wacko:
I find my fear of mirrors at night more legitimate than being anti Vaccinations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Mario
I'm back. That game wasn't great. Very stale animations and poor sensitivity in a FPS = all kinds of unpleasant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spose'
Nah I wasn't trolling because it can be fixed, regardless of what modern medicine tells you. The CDC & FDA will tell you the same if you actually read it. All illness and disease are caused by 3 things; malnutrition, pollution, and injury. True genetics rarely plays a part in it.
You must have remarkably broad definitions of malnutrition and pollution.
So does the CDC and FDA. Leave it up to them to paint things with a broad brush so they understand how to deal with a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Mario