The Hangout: Where are Skinner7, 8, and 9?

[Vesper]

Those aren't released yet? I thought production of DC games had stopped years ago.

The homebrew scene is quite strong on the DC.

[Stark]

^__^ does this mean i can be unleashed? OH PLEASE STRONGBAD I LIVE FOR THIS!!!!!

You know you were going to anyway

[Strongbad]

^__^ does this mean i can be unleashed? OH PLEASE STRONGBAD I LIVE FOR THIS!!!!!

You would be banned in an instant.

[polobunny]

wtf
NAZI-CHRISTIANSSESES

[Jase]

You would be banned in an instant.

You know you were going to anyway

what she said.

[Jase]

Wonder if John Paul is taken, that would be rad.

[Strongbad]

I think that they might actually be begining to understand the way they are running that board is wrong. Not taht they adminted it but they are being a little nicer.

EDIT: My typing here should showcase how tired I am.

[Strongbad]

Wow, I stayed up for a long time actually having some sort of productive discussion with a mod at the Bible forum. I will post our conversation starting from a point where I started to be able to look past my anger. Not sure if it will do anything at all, but heres to hoping. If any mods at that forum are reading this I am not posting this in order to poke fun at you in anyway. By the way, I posted under the name cpt2falcon.

We also have a forum called "kicking back" which is a sub forum of the Christian answer forum where both Christians
and unbelievers can discuss topics and issues not related to biblical views _ It is a general topic forum ... lighter
subjects games - whatever just to fellowship in and get to know each other - without debate or challenging ..

We do have unbeliever who are allowed in the Christian forums but they have been here awhile and we have
made friends and we have earned each others trust ..

We protect our board and the members This is a ministry to us and we take it very seriously we put in long
hours and are we are all volunteers .. If at times we get impatient it is because we sometimes feel attacked
and protective ..

I'm sorry if you felt we were being rude that was not our intention .. but when we feel played or that one
is trolling which your forum gave us every indication you were _ We become very protective.

When we have members from your board threatening to post smut and mock our faith _ We need to protect it
that is Trolling. _ We want to honor God here and keep that off our board and sometimes those who are associated
get caught in the fray ... I wish you would quite posting and mocking our converstaions over thier and it might help
to stop those who want to come here and mock God or our beliefs ... as long as we feel threatened we are going to
be cautious - Even of you _ becuase I am not certain yet of your purpose here _

As long as unbelievers abide by the rules we have no problem - we welcome you ..
We also have rules in place for all members or else this board would Caos .. Even christians
dont get along all the time and can be rude - We are not perfect _ just being perfected as
we grow in our faith .. and yes we make mistakes _

After reading this I can clearly see that you are somewhat of a nice person. Secondly, that is not "my" forum in any sense of the word. I did say a few things on there but that was out of anger instilled by the staffs actions here. I am not responsible for what other members said or did.

The one thing that I am trying to get at is that the rules here are very messed up. You already succeed in showing if a member is Christian or not with the avatar usage. I do not like this but I can deal with that. What I cannot deal with is the segregation of members here. I can only post in one section and even then I cannot comment in a thread that I have not created. What is the purpose of this?

Also, the first time I was banned it came with the message "Have a Great Day!" Tell me, is it in all Christian's nature to be such sarcastic pricks? All of my experiences with them, whether it be on this board or in real life, show this to be true. The staff here seems to have a very un-Christian like attitude. Either that or my idea that Christians should be kind, loving, and accepting people is just wrong.

What makes me the angriest is how you guys just go around deleting "unbeliever's" posts for absolutely no reason at all. This shows that you have no respect for others who may not believe the same as you, or just haven't came to a decision yet. I have been told that I need to be respectful. To this I say, practice what you preach.

OK .. I will practice it
Im sorry if we offended you -
Your board reaction to us offends me too ..
but I know it is just becuse they dont understand
what we do here. Or the pupose of this board ..

This is a private board for Christian fellowship and discussions.
with other Christians .. a safe place for christians to fellowship
and discuss there faith - without be challenged at every turn.
by unbelievers .. We decided we would opn up a forum to
allow unbelievers who were seeking to understand our faith to
come in and ask questions and seek clarification of our views.

We dont delete posts for NO reason.The posts were deleted because they were not
in the proper forums _ as per the rules _ not because of the content or that they
were form unbelievers _ they were just in the wrong forums or threads ..

I'm sorry you dont agree with the rules.
I explained the reason they are in place
and if you read the rules of the CA forum
it explains clearly why -

But I dont want to argue about the rules.
It wont change them _ If you want to participate on
the board and abide by them you have my blessing ..

would you like to go by another user name so you are
not under scrutiny by your board .. I can change it for
you if you like .. and you can post anominously _ thats
up to you - but peer pressure can be a hinderance sometimes.
That just an option I am offering _ not trying to insult you or
make any judgement of whether you need that or not ..

Let me know what you want to do ??

You contradicted yourself in your previous post. You said that you would be respectful, and then you went on to state how the rules could not possibly be changed. All that says to me is that you have no respect for anyone outside of your religion. Just because someone may not believe exactly the same way that you do does not mean that they do not have valuable input that could help the person asking the question. I know what you are thinking, if a non-Christian was giving advice then it would surely be "anti-Bible", as the rules state. However, this is not the case. They may even share some of the same beliefs that you do. Their input may very well be just as valuable as yours.

You also seem to have a very negative view on debate. Sure it can be very negative, but this does not mean that it should be excluded entirely. Maybe the rules should be amended just a little bit. You could easily still be respectful while debating someone’s point of view. If there is no room for debate on this forum, then the Christian Answer forum is really just a waste of time and space. For example, someone asks a question to a Christian; the Christian answers the question. That is all the rules seem to allow. What if the person asking the question doesn't understand at all why the given answer could be so? Tough cookies according to the rules, they can not say that they disagree and then tell why they disagree because it may seem "anti-Bible", according to your interpretation of the Bible. Instead of discouraging non-Christians, or as you like to call them “unbelievers”, from sharing their points of view, you should encourage them to share their thoughts. This could help you gain a better understanding for why they believe the way that they do. By understanding this, you would gain knowledge regarding how to address their thoughts. Debate can be a very positive tool to for everyone. It could even be very positive to spread your message. How can you view it from such a negative standpoint?

Yes, I would like to stick around because this is really the only place I know of that I can get some sort of Christian point of view, aside from my real life. I will follow your rules as much as I possibly can too. However, I strongly suggest that the staff discuss some of the things I have said about the rules. I know that you have a private place on the board where such a thing would be possible and I strongly suggest that you do so. It would be blatantly ignorant to dismiss what I have said entirely just because I may not believe some of the same things that you do. After reading this if you still do not want to kick me off of your board then, yes, I would like my name changed. Not because I am embarrassed about what I have said, but because I am used to the Strongbad name. If you wish you may talk about this incident with anyone on the board because it does not embarrass me in the least bit.

And about this peer pressure business, I am not sure if you were implying that I was being pressured by outside sources to attack you on your board or what. If that is what was being implied then I would like to tell you that I was not. I committed those acts out of anger stemming from the way I was previously treated. I must say, you have handled me better than the others have gbee, and for that, you have gained some of my respect. I feel that I was treated unfairly before and when I addressed that issue with the staff they did nothing but ban and mock me after doing so. That is very disrespectful.

Also, just to throw this out there, I do believe in some sort of higher power. I am not completely godless. If you have read this then I do appreciate that. Sorry if any of this does make sense to you as I do not exactly have the time for a proof read. Thank you for at least putting a little effort towards being understanding.

/End of wall-O-text.

After typing all that out I just realized that I could have instead finished a good chunk of my homework instead. Somehow though, I feel that this was a more worthwhile quest.

[Ahkei]

What a faggot.

Also, that last bit was tl;dr

[Strongbad]

What a faggot.

Also, that last bit was tl;dr

[Strongbad]

And I thought that I was done for the night, or should I say morning. It seems some of those in the Christian community just refuse to even listen to what others have to say, as if they are any better than us.

You point is noted ..
But I do not agree ..

As I said the rules are not negotiable
and that has nothing to do with not
respecting you _ This is a CHRISTIAN
discussion forum ..

If it was a pepsi forum to discuss pepsi
we wouldnt go in to discuss coke that
you be disresepctful to the purpose of
that forum _

I wouldnt go to your board and ask them to change the rules
so I could be acommidated in what I wanted _ such as no cussing
no bad language _ no mocking God etc etc .. and then tell them
they are being disrespectful to me for saying they wont change them
for me _ I would be a guest there and should except thier rules when
I joined _ if not I shouldnt join _ I want to join you board but I want
you to change the rule _ Heck I have a buddist in here wanting us to
allow his teachings in our forums _ and I am also acussed of disrespecting
him for not allowing it ... The rules serve the purpose of this board.
Which is to discuss and teach the Christian faith ..


No I didnt mean your board would sway to to
troll or break the rules _ but that maybe you
wouldnt be as open to discuss you beliefs about God.

Hey like I said we do allow some unblievers on the open
board _ they have been here awhile and have earned
our trust .. they dont challenge our faith on the open
board - they keep those discussions in the Ca forum and
fellowship in general with us on the open board ..

Well enough discussing the rules ..
As long as you abide by them you are welcome to stay.

Ill see you in the CA forum ..

I need to get some rest now - Its been along day and night
and day ..

I don't know what to say to you to get you to even consider to what I am saying. It seems you feel that I am attacking your religion. I assure you, I am not. I am also not asking for a place to preach my beliefs. That is not my intention in coming here. What I meant is that it is very hard to come to an understanding without being able to deeply question something. Questioning things is how we gain a better understanding of them. It is very important to question everything possible. This does not mean deny whatever the idea may be, it means, looking deeply within yourself and whatever the subject may be to come to a better understanding. Questioning things is not wrong.

You said it was wrong to talk about any other religions on here. I do not see why. Just because you are talking about other religions does not mean that you are disrespecting your own. In fact, it would probably help you to gain a better understanding of your own religion by looking at these other points of view. I am not suggesting that you turn your back in what you believe, yet you are reacting as if I am.

I would be plenty comfortable to discuss my beliefs if I had ones that I believed in. This may be a far off concept to you, but what I have been through/am going through in life has constantly led me to changing everything I believe in.

You even say that you distrust me for the very fact that I do not believe the way that you do. This wrong on so many levels. Why is it that you automatically trust those claiming to be Christians? I could easily register under a new name, IP address, and claim to be Christian and you would trust and respect me more. Think about it, how many people have hid behind Christianity and use that automatically gained trust to do evil. A wolf in sheep’s clothing so to speak. I don't plan on "challenging your faith". Maybe I would propose some questions that you may find to be uncomfortable, but in the long run these questions would only give you more understanding.

I am so sick of people judging me based on what religion I may or may not claim to be part of. I am looked upon as a stupid individual for not sharing your beliefs. I assure you, I am not stupid. I probably understand more about the world works then you possibly know.

Why is it so hard to bring up some of the things I have asked you to with the other moderators? I am not telling you to change all of your rules. I am just asking you to think about your current ones and how you could possibly make them better. Not just to suite my needs, but EVERYONES needs.

Goodnight. I should rest as well.

[Raype]

Wow, I stayed up for a long time actually having some sort of productive discussion with a mod at the Bible forum. I will post our conversation starting from a point where I started to be able to look past my anger. Not sure if it will do anything at all, but heres to hoping. If any mods at that forum are reading this I am not posting this in order to poke fun at you in anyway. By the way, I posted under the name cpt2falcon.

After typing all that out I just realized that I could have instead finished a good chunk of my homework instead. Somehow though, I feel that this was a more worthwhile quest.

Aye, great work over there.

They should just be happy I didn't join.

I make the lord very nervous.

And the wimmins very horny.

[Ahkei]

Strongbad, as much as I don't give a fuck, he does have a point.

It's a Christian board, and they ahve the right to disallow discussion of anything else.

It's like a warez nut comng in here and abusing MasJ for not allowing him to post discussions and whatnot about warez.

[Dinosaurman]

Fuck man,
just got released from the hospital.

[Cyberxion]

Wow, I stayed up for a long time actually having some sort of productive discussion with a mod at the Bible forum. I will post our conversation starting from a point where I started to be able to look past my anger. Not sure if it will do anything at all, but heres to hoping. If any mods at that forum are reading this I am not posting this in order to poke fun at you in anyway. By the way, I posted under the name cpt2falcon.

That's great! It's good to see that someone there is cool enough to listen to the opinions of a so-called nonbeliever. It's all we were ever after, and they could've avoided a whole lot of trouble just by being more open to discussion from the start.

Oh, by the way Strongbad, they sent MasJ a message about all of this. They claim to have a police officer on their board who will file a harassment case because of what we said about them here. I'm pretty sure that we have every right to express our distaste with them here, and that they have no legal recourse. Once we were banned from their board, their options as to how to deal with us were exhausted.

Regardless of all that, they have to understand that with people like dljc representing them, and making it a point to mistreat people and threaten them rather than listen to them and consider their points, they're going to have to expect that people are going to express their distaste with that. The man is tainting people's perceptions of the board, so they need only look to him for a resolution to this issue, instead of sending hollow threats to other sites, especially as they had to have invaded our privacy to be aware of what we said here to begin with.

I do wish them all the best of luck in their future endeavors, and I do suppose that this exchange is proof that at least someone there is willing to approach things maturely. I suppose that it would be in their best interest to make sure that people like dljc are made to do the same, otherwise they will have to expect that people will express distaste with their behavior.

Strongbad, as much as I don't give a fuck, he does have a point.

It's a Christian board, and they ahve the right to disallow discussion of anything else.

It's like a warez nut comng in here and abusing MasJ for not allowing him to post discussions and whatnot about warez.

They have an option upon signup to indicate that you're Christian-curious, so to speak. Which means that to them, you're not a part of their little group, and so then, any opinions you may have are less than those who consider themselves Christians. What they fail to understand, is that some people seek guidance to help them determine what beliefs are right for them, and that in treating someone like that as less than a person, they are acting counter-indicative of that. They need to be more open-minded, and willing to help people along, rather than delete their posts and treat them with contempt, just because they checked that option upon signup. It's sad that a group devoted to expressing their faith, a faith that preaches love and tolerance, would be so close minded and intolerant. That's the issue I had with them.