"New mammal" seen in Borneo woods

[Lag]

Only because us humans hide behind our guns and technology, go jump in the water with a great white, hell even take a gun with you and we shall see who the best predator is...

I train Great Whites, and they're harmless if you know what you're doing.
Not really, I'd kill myself before the thing got to me. And then I'd kill him.

Anybody seen Open Water? I really liked it, maybe cause I'm scared of sealife.

[Valholy]

I found a Lag,strange mammal indeed , btw I saw a program where they said that there were rumors about a lagoon where there was this kinda acuatic long neck...yeah like those dinosaurs but an acuatic one....... how could one of those live for that long in a lagoon ? they even took photos but chances for it being a fake are high

[Raype]

btw I saw a program where they said that there were rumors about a lagoon where there was this kinda acuatic long neck...yeah like those dinosaurs but an acuatic one....... how could one of those live for that long in a lagoon ? they even took photos but chances for it being a fake are high

Yeah there were aquatic dinosaurs that looked like the one you are probably referring to. It's usually used to explain the high number of "loch ness type" creatures that are sighted worldwide (at least, that's what all cryptozoologists say). I believe it was Lag that mentioned the Ogopogo a while back, which is basically Ontario's version of it. Apparrently sighings of that one go way back to before europeans even set foot here. Then there are pictures of similar creatures in multiple peices of art around the world. Not to menion several other places that claim to have monsters of that type (sightings also have occurred on the open ocean according to some people). Maybe these lagoons are just on migration routes and these creatures are really deep ocean dwellers who occassionally rise to the surface. Odd how multiple people on different sides of the planet claim to have seen the same thing but there is no actual scientific proof it exists(sea serphants anyone?). And some of that was before this whole loch ness craze which has, without a doubt, caused false reports.

EDIT- and to answer your question, lagoons are always connected to the ocean (I think....maybe I'm wrong). A lagoon is similar to a bay.

[Valholy]

Yeah there were aquatic dinosaurs that looked like the one you are probably referring to. It's usually used to explain the high number of "loch ness type" creatures that are sighted worldwide (at least, that's what all cryptozoologists say). I believe it was Lag that mentioned the Ogopogo a while back, which is basically Ontario's version of it. Apparrently sighings of that one go way back to before europeans even set foot here. Then there are pictures of similar creatures in multiple peices of art around the world. Not to menion several other places that claim to have monsters of that type (sightings also have occurred on the open ocean according to some people). Maybe these lagoons are just on migration routes and these creatures are really deep ocean dwellers who occassionally rise to the surface. Odd how multiple people on different sides of the planet claim to have seen the same thing but there is no actual scientific proof it exists(sea serphants anyone?). And some of that was before this whole loch ness craze which has, without a doubt, caused false reports.

these reminds me of the mithical Hydras ,after all it seems that theyre not a myth

[Evans]

Odd how multiple people on different sides of the planet claim to have seen the same thing but there is no actual scientific proof it exists(sea serphants anyone?).

Nah, not really.

Giant squid, Megamouth[Megachasma pelagios], just to name those two.

[Raype]

Yeah, of course. That would make a lot of sense. Also, one of the fist sightings of the Lock ness monster (obviosly the most well known of those creatures) occurred on land according to this one thing I saw on TV a while back. That may mean these things can at least temporarily go up on land (like a seal I guess). Also look at the fact that it has a long neck. Seems dragon/serphant like. Could that also be the origion of those myths as well?

EDIT- I believe that dinosaur was Pleiseosaur or something like that. Maybe someone can check google (or I can, whatever)

Nah, not really.

According to what you're saying, should I reconsider my lack of faith because many people claim stuff?

Nope. Many of these claims are probably false. I don't really put much merit into a lot of this stuff. Still, it's kind of interesting to talk about and who know, it may be real. Giant Sea creatures like the Blue Whale of Giant Squid were nothing but myths a few hundred years ago, storys that sailors would spread. Now, they are accepted science, so don't dismiss it so quickly. Of couse, people also see UFO's, ghosts, zombies, demons, angels, vampires, werewolves, Sasquatch and his bizarre cousin Yeti (another mythical animal that has yet to be proven, some people link them due to similarities) and a whole lot more freaky crap like that. I don't believe it for the most part, but still it is interesting to discuss, read about, and try to understand. Also, ancient people had nothing to gain with these stories, so why would they have reason to lie? Religion and legends, fairy tales, all that other stuff of course. These things were either made up to bring enjoyment or to talk about existant things. I see no harm with talking about it, regardless of what it says.

[Valholy]

Yeah, of course. That would make a lot of sense. Also, one of the fist sightings of the Lock ness monster (obviosly the most well known of those creatures) occurred on land according to this one thing I saw on TV a while back. That may mean these things can at least temporarily go up on land (like a seal I guess). Also look at the fact that it has a long neck. Seems dragon/serphant like. Could that also be the origion of those myths as well?

Of course it is, giant squid was one of those mythical monsters said to attack ships and all that...... so the hydras well known as well must exist or something. But now theyre just smaller I think ,evolution perhaps?

[MoloMowChow]

whoa...a new species...

What if it's actually a demon from the underworld? It looks demonic...

[Evans]

Of course it is, giant squid was one of those mythical monsters said to attack ships and all that...... so the hydras well known as well must exist or something. But now theyre just smaller I think ,evolution perhaps?

See, giant squids, though little is known about their habits, usually live in the depth of the ocean. I say, they just invented those stories to make themselves look good, to excuse the loss of lives or property. In fact, I dunno.

EDIT: Yes, evolution tends to make creatures smaller.

[Raype]

so the hydras well known as well must exist or something. But now theyre just smaller I think ,evolution perhaps?

you have no idea how right you may be. There is a micro-organism that was named "hydra" because it bears a resemblance to the creature. It's kind of transparent-bluish and you need a microscope to see it.

Giant squid, Megamouth[Megachasma pelagios], just to name those two.

Sure, you can say that now, but what about 20-30 years ago? We only discovered Giant Squid because some washed up on shore (So I guess deep water is optional, since the deep ocean doesn't start until a few hundred clicks out on the water so the continental plate disappears). Then there was some fish (can't recall the name, I think you mentioned it a few pages back) that was only discovered because some fisherman caught a bunch in a net and reported it to the scientific community ( I believe people in that area were catching them for years without realizing they were a supposedly extinct species). As for both creatures, discovery of their existence led to research. This helped lead to an understanding of these creatures that were once unknown to all humans. No evidence now doesn't mean no evidence tomorrow now does it? Smoking wasn't considered unhealthy in the 60's. It is now. See how times change? Who knows what will happen in the years to come.

[Valholy]

See, giant squids, though little is known about their habits, usually live in the depth of the ocean. I say, they just invented those stories to make themselves look good, to excuse the loss of lives or property. In fact, I dunno.

perhaps,anyway the giant squid found is not as big as the ones in the stories and all that, but it is said that in prehistoric times sharks and other animals where bigger lets say... 20 mts or more? that reminds me of the jaws movies ,so if we think about it now sharks are smaller because of the evolution and all that so this makes me think that maybe giant squids were really giant in those times as well as these hydras

[Raype]

perhaps,anyway the giant squid found is not as big as the ones in the stories and all that, but it is said that in prehistoric times sharks and other animals where bigger lets say... 20 mts or more? that reminds me of the jaws movies ,so if we think about it now sharks are smaller because of the evolution and all that so this makes me think that maybe giant squids were really giant in those times as well as these hydras

Perhaps, or maybe all the ones we have seen so far weren't fully grown. We don't fully understand how long they live or how big they can get, the largest one found was pretty big, maybe that could be a normal size (I believe it was somewhere in the 15 meter+ range or something.) Or maybe there is an even larger species out there that we haven't found yet. Squid are a very common oceanic organism, with many varieties. Some of them have remained pretty much unchanged since they first appeared in the geological record. Gigantic squid? Maybe there are some out there. When it comes to squid, if you can find an area with one kind, you are sure to run into other species pretty quick.

[Valholy]

Perhaps, or maybe all the ones we have seen so far weren't fully grown. We don't fully understand how long they live or how big they can get, the largest one found was pretty big, maybe that could be a normal size (I believe it was somewhere in the 15 meter+ range or something.) Or maybe there is an even larger species out there that we haven't found yet. Squid are a very common oceanic organism, with many varieties. Some of them have remained pretty much unchanged since they first appeared in the geological record. Gigantic squid? Maybe there are some out there. When it comes to squid, if you can find an area with one kind, you are sure to run into other species pretty quick.

That could be a possibility as well, I also saw a mag where they presented a report about a man who went deep undersea with a submarine and he found this creepy fish in the deepest and darkest part,it had long fangs and a creepy face

[Evans]

1- I never dismissed anything, Omega. Let's not start assuming things, again.
2- Ancient people had to gain from these the same as fishermen, pride of the story told. To be listened to.
One more thing, who's going to argue that? Want to go high seas and find out? (all this in their timeset and frame of referance and stuff)

Damn it! I don't want to quote! Argh!

Sure, you can say that now, but what about 20-30 years ago?

No evidence now doesn't mean no evidence tomorrow now does it?

3- Read back, I don't see where you're going with this... I just gave two examples of creatures newly "discovered".
4- Sure. I never said the opposite. I'll say that that was just thrown into the mix like that.

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