Poll: Does God exist?

[Xena]

You mean like atheists that deny the existence of God? Or religious folk who deny the existance of extraterrestrial life? If it's the 2nd choice, I agree.

Anyone who denys everything.

That narrow it down for you?

[Mistral]

Anyone who denys everything.

That narrow it down for you?

I deny my existence, and everything pertaining to my perceptions (which are merely a product of my theoretical existence). As the only way I know anything exists is through my perceptions, I also deny you all exist.

[Xena]

I deny my existence, and everything pertaining to my perceptions (which are merely a product of my theoretical existence). As the only way I know anything exists is through my perceptions, I also deny you all exist.

Yeah well... damn. Forget I said anything.

Think about raindrops, when they're running down a window they'll join together and speed up. It's a fact, drips follow other drips.

[Mikey_]

you bunch of drips!

[bjwsl]

[QUOTE=Ciel]There used to be a cluster of nuclear reactors in Gabon starting 1.8 billion years ago, entirely naturally created (Oklo Fossil Reactors). Just pointing it out, considering you'd think that a nuclear reactor in the rainforests of central Africa would be logically artificial, as well as an undefined abode.

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Well one thing as far as your elaborate explaination goes, not that it is unreasonable, but it is amazing complicated, although everything is based on point of view, and thus you can view anything as complicated. If you look at it, the thought of an all powerful being, or beings, or anything can be viewed to be just as complicated. I could argue that you lack a logical or reasonable beginning to all things, but I could also argue the same to myself, as even the Bible does not explain how the grand creator originally came to be, nor does any religious book of any religion. It simply says he just was, which is not simple at all because we as humans are accustomed to all things having a beginning and end. Also I could argue that I only see God as "always being" as complicated due to my imperfect mind, as both science and Bible would agree there. However, you could say that's why I don't see the "big bang" theory as well. Perhaps both are true (which I personally believe that if anything God, or whatever you want to call him, more or less started the "big bang" himself. Or even better, perhaps both major theories of how life came to be are incorrect, again due to the completely agreed upon fact of us having inferior and/or imperfect minds. I just wanted to express an idea, I love a good conversation. So anyways, new comment, any other thoughts?

[Dingy]

you bunch of drips!

Hear hear.

[Mikey_]

glad we're on the same page dingy

[X-EvansBasher-X]

I could argue that you lack a logical or reasonable beginning to all things, but I could also argue the same to myself, as even the Bible does not explain how the grand creator originally came to be, nor does any religious book of any religion. It simply says he just was, which is not simple at all because we as humans are accustomed to all things having a beginning and end.

Hold on right there! A beginning and an end...? That is more a Western concept than an Eastern one!! Anyone familiar in the vaguest sense with either Buddhism or Hinduism knows that talk of constant death & rebirth are reflections on how someone behaves in a particular lifetime. It is the Xtian concept that you must obey and subjegate yourself to the will of GOD or you will suffer eternal damnation, suffering, and separation from Him, in the place called Hell. In contrast, the religions of Hinduism & Buddhism stress acting in a better way in your lifetime. If you live peacefully & do good deeds, you may be reincarnated as a bird or a tree. Do bad things? You can be a cockroach or perhaps.....well I'll let you read this and educate yourself a bit.

The Western thought is the one life, no chance to be anything but what God has already determined (a fatalist bent of the Calvinists, to be sure). The Eastern thought is life as a continuation of past lives, a chance to start over & do better the next time!

Remember, the Karma and the Chakra are energies at your control. Behave evil, and your Karma will haunt you until you do good. Always do good, your energy will be greater, your life on this Earth more pleasurable & reincarnation as a sacred thing may become you.

[bjwsl]

Hold on right there! A beginning and an end...? That is more a Western concept than an Eastern one!! Anyone familiar in the vaguest sense with either Buddhism or Hinduism knows that talk of constant death & rebirth are reflections on how someone behaves in a particular lifetime. It is the Xtian concept that you must obey and subjegate yourself to the will of GOD or you will suffer eternal damnation, suffering, and separation from Him, in the place called Hell. In contrast, the religions of Hinduism & Buddhism stress acting in a better way in your lifetime. If you live peacefully & do good deeds, you may be reincarnated as a bird or a tree. Do bad things? You can be a cockroach or perhaps.....well I'll let you read this and educate yourself a bit.

The Western thought is the one life, no chance to be anything but what God has already determined (a fatalist bent of the Calvinists, to be sure). The Eastern thought is life as a continuation of past lives, a chance to start over & do better the next time!

Remember, the Karma and the Chakra are energies at your control. Behave evil, and your Karma will haunt you until you do good. Always do good, your energy will be greater, your life on this Earth more pleasurable & reincarnation as a sacred thing may become you.

While it is true that it is more of a western culture thing, Christianity is the largest religion in the world, I believe. Anyhow, I myself also believe that the entire heaven and hell concept is completely misunderstood by the majority who believe in it. As far as coming back as a tree, I don't see a point (well I guess that simple life would be much more enjoyable than the fast paced, hectic lives we tend to lead now). I mean, if you wanna speak about specific beliefs I can give you my e-mail or something, this was supposed to be about God or no God, or creator or no creator. Though I do appreciate your insightful comment also.

[Allea]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
you bunch of drips!

Hear hear.

Alas, I fear when you say 'Hear hear' that many a drip may have no ear...

[Soeru]

Heh, how incredibly surreal it is that we have here a simple yes/no poll based on a discussion universally challenging of opinion.

Amusing, that.

This is the internet after all.

[Loki_Lysmeth]

God is a atheist. You see faith is "belief in things that aren't based in fact." Since god knows everything, he can't have faith. And because he's already the highest power, he doesn't believe in a higher power. And so, God is an atheist. - Too Much Coffee Man

[Snake Solid]

i believe in what you can see in feel, but i also believe in coincidence. so yea there is sum1 pulling strings and dropping shit in front of me.

[Dingy]

God is a atheist. You see faith is "belief in things that aren't based in fact." Since god knows everything, he can't have faith. And because he's already the highest power, he doesn't believe in a higher power. And so, God is an atheist. - Too Much Coffee Man

Who said faith is that? And does that also mean that one can't have faith in facts? And simply because God knows everything, doesn't mean he knows only facts, why can't, if we follow your definition of 'faith', have a faith? Who or what makes God the higest power?
Not making any personal allegations, simply public wonders.

[Tancred]

No god doesnt exist you fucking nub kthxbai...