American Prez Bussh... Hitler 9/11 connection?

[Andros]

Please, comparing Bush to Hitler only screams "I know jack about history."

Kiddies think it's cool to bash Bush, educated people realize just how little difference who the President is makes.

Amazing someone who actually knows how the government works!
I wonder how many people have actually paid attention to what is laid down in the articles of the Constitution?

[Schutzstaffel]

That is a misconception though, isn't it? Hitler wasn't right wing, he was a national socialist. Socialism= left wing.

Although the Nazi's used the name "national Socialist," they are not literally national socialists at all- the party is extremely right wing, and is closely associated with Fascism, rather than Socialism.



And so on and so forth.

[Kosmo Yagkoto]

Although the Nazi's used the name "national Socialist," they are not literally national socialists at all- the party is extremely right wing, and is closely associated with Fascism, rather than Socialism.



And so on and so forth.

Oh, but Hitler was, don't know about the party though.

He championed the rights of workers, regarded capitalist society as brutal and unjust, and sought a third way between communism and the free market. In this regard, he and his associates greatly admired the strong steps taken by President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal to take large-scale economic decision-making out of private hands and put it into those of government planning agencies. His aim was to institute a brand of socialism that avoided the inefficiencies that plagued the Soviet variety, and many former communists found his program highly congenial. He deplored the selfish individualism he took to be endemic to modern Western society, and wanted to replace it with an ethic of self-sacrifice: "As Christ proclaimed 'love one another'," he said, "so our call -- 'people's community,' 'public need before private greed,' 'communally-minded social consciousness' -- rings out.! This call will echo throughout the world!"

http://jonjayray.tripod.com/hitler.html

That is a website I got that from and the guy is a PhD. I am sure there are other places that state Hitlers beliefs as well.

[Schutzstaffel]

stuff

read this: Myth: Hitler was a leftist



EDIT- The fellow you mentioned may have a PhD, but that does not mean that his speculations are absolute truth- you must always question material having to do with historic events and persons.

[Kosmo Yagkoto]

read this: Myth: Hitler was a leftist



EDIT- The fellow you mentioned may have a PhD, but that does not mean that his speculations are absolute truth- you must always question material having to do with historic events and persons.

While communism is different from Hitler's Socialism, they are basically the same with exception to what scale (national or global), that hitler was elected(so apparently the people wanted socialism), and apparently German's socialism unified people(don't know about the Jews though).

Germany Socialism - Adolf Hitler's Socialism - is a totally different thing from what is generally understood by this term, from the Socialism derived from Marxian and Communistic theory. The first essential difference between the two consists in this, that the former is strictly national in aim, scope and limit; the latter is international, without boundaries of race or land. The second vital distinction is that the first has been set up by the wish of the people concerned, the second is imposed upon nations by the will of those who organise and propagate it. A third contrast can be drawn inasmuch as German Socialism tends to draw all sections of the nation closely together, international socialism initiates class war. German socialism is directed by the country's nationals; international socialism is an instrument of the Jews. In the former it is the personality of the Leader which tells; in the latter we have nothing but the inertia of the mass which is exploited by the organisers.

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zg...09/990911.html

The above section came from that website.

But anyway I am tired and need to go study. It was fun taking the thread off topic.

[Schutzstaffel]

Hitler was elected


But anyway I am tired and need to go study. It was fun taking the thread off topic.

Whoa! That there is a mistake- Hitler was never elected, and the Nazi's never got a majority in elections.
It's good to be appointed chancellor, I hear.


Anyway, I'm too lazy to give an adequate reply to whatever else was in that post, so have fun studying.


What this thread needs is a big dose of DAVID IRVING

[Sting]

Bush is probably the biggest moron is human history but i don't think that's crime. Bush is an idiot and people knew this when they voted for him, so i say blame citizens who voted for him. It's easy to point the finger at him since he's in charge but he was put in the position of president by the american people. So Bush voters and republicans are the real idiots and here are the facts:

1. Bush had a couple of D.U.I's when he was younger and he snorted cocaine. They made him President.

2. After having a failure of a term as president, with a war against W.M.D's when there were none, and saying that Osama Bin Laden wasn't important anymore after he started the war in Iraq, (Bin Laden, being the one who planned the attacks on 9/11), they voted him in for a second term.

People voted a moron into office twice and then point the finger when things don't turn out right. Americans are such ignorant hypocrites that it's embarassing to live here anymore.

You can't completely blame them. Some people are ignorant because they're forced to eat Bush's propaganda.

[Hangman]

Bush is in power, so just accept it.

Also, everything Schutzstaffel on how Hitler came to power and his policies. He was a righty all the way.

[Soeru]

You can't completely blame them. Some people are ignorant because they're forced to eat Bush's propaganda.

Not Bush's propaganda, just the lack of worldly information in the media as a whole. Fuck, never mind, there's no excuse for being ignorant, anyone can read more than one news paper or watch TV news. People -even the younger kids- should get involved and interested in what's going on around them. High school students that don't know jack shit about politics, geography, nor history have no excuse, I'm tired of saying that the US education system doesn't teach crap. The kids have no interest in what's going on 'cause it doesn't affect their everyday lives of going to school, doing homework, playing video games, and taking Sally out to the drive-in movies on Friday nights in their dad's car. It's up to the people to read some history texts, fucking newspapers and watch several news broadcasts and thinking for themselves before making up their mind on anything.

[/vicious rant]

Indeed, bashing president Bush is a cool thing. But do it intelligently, back up your attacks with fucking facts behind them. A lot of the people in my high school hated Bush but not one of them could give me a single decent reason why.

That is a misconception though, isn't it? Hitler wasn't right wing, he was a national socialist. Socialism= left wing.

National Socialism = Fascism = right wing politics. Throw in some radical conservative views into any political system and voila: you're a fascist!

[ChimpoUA]

2 words. Bush sucks. Another 2 words. Hitler sucks. Now let's compare them. They both suck... So... They are comparable

[Soeru]

2 words. Bush sucks. Another 2 words. Hitler sucks. Now let's compare them. They both suck... So... They are comparable

Indeed, bashing president Bush is a cool thing. But do it intelligently, back up your attacks with fucking facts behind them. A lot of the people in my high school hated Bush but not one of them could give me a single decent reason why.

[Anonymous]

people who complain about our gov't, 90% of the time, didn't vote. that's just my experience on the topic. if you're not going to take the time to voice your opinion when it actually might do something, don't bother voicing it at a later date.

Bush may be an idiotic, but goddammit, he's MY idiot! i voted for him b/c Kerry would've done even less productive, as he would've ben flipflopping the whole time.

I also voted for bush based on his pro-life ideals. abortion is murder, plain and simple.

[Paladin_Hammer]

This again? Come on guys. Democrats lost. Get over it.

The fact that France and Germany don't like the War in Iraq is because Saddam guaranteed them two oil fields in Iraq if they got the Sanctions lifted (UN Oil for Food Scandal).

If you think were all morons in the USA then I point to your Mr. Michael Moore. I saw Fahrenheit 9/11 three times and laugh at that bullshit everytime. That pipeline Bush wanted in Afganistan? In Farhenhype 9/11 they (the producers) flew over where that pipeline was supposed to run according to the video. Guess what, no pipeline.

That whole war for oil thing? OIL PRICES IN THE U.S. ARE SKY HIGH!!! They've gone up and up and up. If Iraq was for oil then where the fuck is the oil?

National Socialism = Fascism = right wing politics. Throw in some radical conservative views into any political system and voila: you're a fascist!

Wow wow wow. What book did you read out of? Liberalism=Radical. Conservative=Reactionary. A Reactionary is a person who favors the return of the old government. A Radical favors a new government. Thats from my government facts book (3rd period class)

[Dingy]

Bah.






















Honestly.

[Mistral]

Wow wow wow. What book did you read out of? Liberalism=Radical. Conservative=Reactionary. A Reactionary is a person who favors the return of the old government. A Radical favors a new government. Thats from my government facts book (3rd period class)

Radical can also mean extremist, as opposed to centrist. A reactionary is a radical conservative, and may indeed favour a new government that closely matches an older one - military coups, for instance, tend to be reactionary, the most famous being the Spanish Civil War against the elected socialist progressives.