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Thread: Lawsuit against the makers of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

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    I just filled a lawsuit on there and my complaint and i qoute was you lawyers are a bunch of well i dont really think im aloud to put the rest but it was fun to vent about stupid morons the game if for mature anyway and dont you have to download a patch on the internet to even get it its retared the parents should get beat the lawyers should get beat hell beat em all

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    Quote Originally Posted by imacrazedclown
    I just filled a lawsuit on there and my complaint and i qoute was you lawyers are a bunch of well i dont really think im aloud to put the rest but it was fun to vent about stupid morons the game if for mature anyway and dont you have to download a patch on the internet to even get it its retared the parents should get beat the lawyers should get beat hell beat em all
    Ah, and we wonder why people don't take us seriously...

    Of course, it's not like you can win either way...

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    Where did they get an idea that a sexual content(Not much sexual and even boooring minigame) could harm children more than spreading tons of headshots from AK?
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    Some people just suck... Even I don't think THAT much about money, even though I am considered as a stupid 12 years old n00b |_33�|-|3�... Too bad most peep3 d0n'7 kn0\/\/ /\/\3 =DD Srry for the leet talk!

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    It doesn't make any sense because even if the code was in the game, it's not for access. The ESRB will rate game areas and game content that can be accessed by any gamer, without using any kind of mods. Modding is the same as hacking in this case and well, the case just won't hold up because of that. Rockstar could've left whatever code they wanted to in the game as long as it doesn't violate people's privacy (spyware, etc..), as long as the code never runs, it's as good as a line of comments in the source..

    Something which was unlocked in the game by hacking into it makes it look like you were specifically looking for some kind of easter egg (hidden code-wise) or programmer message. Sure it says sick things about the geeky programmers of GTA, but other than that, it does no damage. That particular 'area' of the game isn't accessible without hacking/modding.
    It's the same as saying you reverse-engineered a zelda cart and found nude zelda models, and that could be perfectly viable since the game engine might use a nude model and then render the clothes onto it. Sure, it was a sick joke by the programmers, but it wasn't meant for the public anyway, Rockstar wasn't wrong in leaving it in because they took adequate measures to make sure no gamers (not hackers..) could access it. Thus, the ESRB rating was according to what they saw in the game, pretty natural. They couldn't get at the nude stuff either..
    Who knows what kind of code is there in all of our programs ? We only get binaries, there could be all sorts of sex scene avi's in our programs . Hardly a reason to sue over as long as your program works okay..
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    ZOMG!!!! I just found an avi of Bill Gates rolling around naked in a pile of money in my WinD'ohs XP!!!! I'm gonna sue! MasJ's right, the lawyers aint gonna win this one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deach
    I'd rather just watch real porn.
    Amen to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasJ
    It doesn't make any sense because even if the code was in the game, it's not for access. The ESRB will rate game areas and game content that can be accessed by any gamer, without using any kind of mods. Modding is the same as hacking in this case and well, the case just won't hold up because of that. Rockstar could've left whatever code they wanted to in the game as long as it doesn't violate people's privacy (spyware, etc..), as long as the code never runs, it's as good as a line of comments in the source..

    Something which was unlocked in the game by hacking into it makes it look like you were specifically looking for some kind of easter egg (hidden code-wise) or programmer message. Sure it says sick things about the geeky programmers of GTA, but other than that, it does no damage. That particular 'area' of the game isn't accessible without hacking/modding.
    It's the same as saying you reverse-engineered a zelda cart and found nude zelda models, and that could be perfectly viable since the game engine might use a nude model and then render the clothes onto it. Sure, it was a sick joke by the programmers, but it wasn't meant for the public anyway, Rockstar wasn't wrong in leaving it in because they took adequate measures to make sure no gamers (not hackers..) could access it. Thus, the ESRB rating was according to what they saw in the game, pretty natural. They couldn't get at the nude stuff either..
    Who knows what kind of code is there in all of our programs ? We only get binaries, there could be all sorts of sex scene avi's in our programs . Hardly a reason to sue over as long as your program works okay..

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    i know!
    GTA gets attacked too much
    but they always win

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultrninja
    i know!
    GTA gets attacked too much
    but they always win
    It's because someone draws their attention away by blasting their school after listening to heavy metal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaru
    Where did they get an idea that a sexual content(Not much sexual and even boooring minigame) could harm children more than spreading tons of headshots from AK?
    That's what I was going to say! It's okay to have people blowing other people up or torturing them (The Punisher) or massacreing them with a chainsaw or doing any kind of violent thing towards another human being (All of these examples are on cable tv by the way) But show something such as sex which is a perfectly normal/healthy thing between human beings, and someone goes ape shit! Ahh the world we live in today

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    Oh, with all the debates on the morality of sex and violence, I felt we all needed a good visit from MoralValuesMan.

    Not all that thought-provoking, really, but it really does show the double-standard...

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    I'm not gonna discuss whether the ESRB pulled a sloppy job at rating the game or not... In my opinion, they did what they were meant to do -- to my knowledge, they don't review CODE, they review CONTENTS, and that's that; however...

    Quote Originally Posted by MJ
    It doesn't make any sense because even if the code was in the game, it's not for access.

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    Sure, it was a sick joke by the programmers, but it wasn't meant for the public anyway, Rockstar wasn't wrong in leaving it in because they took adequate measures to make sure no gamers (not hackers..) could access it.
    I'd be willing to give that comment a nod if it weren't for the gaming community out there who make hacking and modding a way of life... I'm pretty sure Rockstar employees have full knowledge of their existence...?

    I don't care who they intended to hide the code FROM... Poor QA policies or "easter egg", I simply think Rockstar fucked it up -- big time. I mean, it was a only a matter of time before someone found this stuff and if they thought no one would make a big deal out of it (if indeed it was on purpose), its not like videogames haven't been under public scrutiny over the last -- oh, I dunno -- TEN YEARS to warrant a more cautious aproach... You know how parent organizations and politicians react to this sort of stuff -- we've been listening to it for the last couple of months...

    In short, if for some odd reason this lawsuit pulls through and Rockstar/Take-Two go down the gutter, I wouldn't miss their games...

    I'm pro-bitchin'...

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    Besides that I dont think it should get an Adults only rating neway because it's based on the content and not the coding. That content was secret anyway meaning they could only get it through hacking. Sometimes I think People and ESRB are retarded

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoReVerZeRo
    Why am I not fricken surprised? Dumbasses who turn to other things like video games when they don't want to put the blame where it should be: on themselves. Jesus, people are dumb.
    This remind anyone of the McDonalds coffee incident?
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    Sadly it does

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