Best Final Fantasy Game?

[seryass]

We all have our own preferences on RPGs. Just because FF7 had tremendous graphics for a game at the time doesn't make it a classic. Granted it did introduce a lot of people to RPGs in general but there have been other successful games before it (Suikoden, Chrono Trigger, Star Ocean and Tales of Phantasia to name but a few all of which have been hugely successful in their own right). In the case of Suikoden it is the only console RPG game to date that has it's own dedicated fan book released quarterly each year (named Genso Suikoden Shinsho) which says something for it's popularity.

As for Angelus' theory I'm afraid it doesn't stand. GundamGuy has already mentioned that some of the other FF's in the series matched it in sales. And as for what type of other games had the same type of battle/magic system? Well the answer is simple: tons of them (even to this day). The rare exceptions are the RPGs that try to do something different with the battle system (Shadow Hearts and Star Ocean spring to mind). It is unfair to compare graphics as times change. Look at the difference between FF7 and FF8 (which were being made together around the same time). That rather implies that FF7's graphics are not breathtaking for the time. Other console RPGs pushed the graphics to the max (Star Ocean and Tales of Phantasia did for the SNES).

Angelus. What gives you the right to say that people who don't consider FF7 revolutionary to stay away from RPGs? If you have been reading the people who don't consider it revolutionary (myself included) have all stated that they like it but it isn't the great big classic game that it is made out to be. Tons of RPG games have been popular before it (especially through emulation on the net - Chrono Trigger being one of them which was made a good year before FF7). The overall feel of FF7 can be a bit depressing and the game is slow to start with. The whole storyline is not very original and has been used in all previous FF games to some extent (just replaced with different meanings)

But as Cookie said this whole argument is remote really as the group that are against it being revolutionary will remain so and the group that consider it revolutionary will still consider it as such.

[leviticus814]

FINAL FANTASY 3, SNES, The BEST!
No other game at the time was pumping a half an hour ending. All the secrets, and hidden characters, this was the first RPG that i realy enjoyed and got me hooked to the whole Genre. It was the first to truly immerse you in a huge story, and though SNES by today's standards is dog doo, this game had some pretty awesome graphics for the time to. Its easy to dis it now if you never played it then, but for its time there was no match. So maybe its nostolgia, but i still play it on my PC, and Xbox. OLD SCHOOL, MY SCHOOL.

[Monkey D.]

You know what I do not see what is so cool about FF3. I guess i'll have to try this game out to see what all the hype is about. Well i've played it before but never finished it.

[Gulcasa]

Tactics. Tactics. Tactics. *Chant.*

[Mikey_]

Angelus. What gives you the right to say that people who don't consider FF7 revolutionary to stay away from RPGs?

because i can...thats why. don't like it? move on or keep speaking. either one is fine by me.

If you have been reading the people who don't consider it revolutionary (myself included) have all stated that they like it but it isn't the great big classic game that it is made out to be.

the majority of people who have commented on FF7 and its greatness and timelessness out number those who don't consider it to be so great. and thats just here at EP. a hand full probably that don't consider it...which isn't even enough people and opinions for me to take seriously anyway.

The overall feel of FF7 can be a bit depressing and the game is slow to start with. The whole storyline is not very original and has been used in all previous FF games to some extent (just replaced with different meanings)

depressing and a slow start? the game starts off with someone who fights with a resistance group in the slums! did you expect an overly happy character to be playing in a garden of flower beds? as for the story, i enjoyed it alot. i've yet to play any previous FF games before FF7 that had alot of the main ideas that FF7 had.

But as Cookie said this whole argument is remote really as the group that are against it being revolutionary will remain so and the group that consider it revolutionary will still consider it as such.

indeed. so you have the choice of continuing this or moving on to something else.

[GundamGuy]

Both you and seryass, are acting like dam fools...

Just accept that what floats your Goat may not float everyone's... and move on...

[Mikey_]

I'll accept it. And don't call me a fool when you can't spell k? And why do you keep using that phrase of floating people's goats? lol

Edit: after some thinking, i realized what i said was rude and i apologize to you gundam for taking cheap shots at you. i've been having a stressful week at school and the hot muggy weather isn't helping me at all. again, i'm sorry.

[Monkey D.]

Both you and seryass, are acting like dam fools...

Just accept that what floats your Goat may not float everyone's... and move on...

And finally someone comes in stops all the madness.

[Xaenn]

the majority of people who have commented on FF7 and its greatness and timelessness out number those who don't consider it to be so great. and thats just here at EP. a hand full probably that don't consider it...which isn't even enough people and opinions for me to take seriously anyway.

Appeal to popularity...

depressing and a slow start? the game starts off with someone who fights with a resistance group in the slums! did you expect an overly happy character to be playing in a garden of flower beds? as for the story, i enjoyed it alot. i've yet to play any previous FF games before FF7 that had alot of the main ideas that FF7 had.

The beginning to FF7 was awesome. In fact, the game continues to get worse the farther you get.

I just wanted to comment on what was the most ironic part of this argument to me. Everyone seems to agree that FF7's graphics were incredible...This is so funny because even though they were 3D, I think one of the worst things about FF7 is the absolutely terrible graphics (watch out for Cloud's block hands ). The graphics on FF6 although not 3D look MUCH better. So FF7 is a great game in spite of the terrible graphics.

[Vivi]

I like Final Fantasy 7. Mainly because its value to me as a person.
It started me down the road of RPGS.

[Vesper]

You know what I do not see what is so cool about FF3. I guess i'll have to try this game out to see what all the hype is about. Well i've played it before but never finished it.

Hm, FF6j has a hillarious dialogue, although the plot is pretty lame it is a funny game and the Esper system is what the Junction System and a familar systems are based off.

Okay guys besides FF7 what is your favourite? I'm already sick of looking at the word >.<

[DeputyDon]

Id say Final Fantasy 6. I like the storyline, lots of characters, the esper system was great.

[c0y0te]

VII all the way. I loved the storyline, although it was difficult to follow until you got used to it. The characters were great, and it didn't suffer from overly cutesy stuff like some of the others, or atrocious amounts of minigames, IMHO.. I just remember so many points in the story where the truly beautiful cutscenes could just leave you speechless, and things such as Sephiroth killing that girl, whats-her-name, which nearly choked me to tears, even after playing through 3 times. I also think that this was one of the very last games I played and beat to nearly 100% of everything, without using online FAQs or buying a strategy guide.. That in itself gives it a special place in my heart.

One of my most hated FF moments? FFIII (if I remember right,) where you had that martial arts character, Sabin I think his name was.. And you had to do fighter-game moves to pull off any of his attacks.. My thumb had the worst blister from using that guy (and gogo, the mimic) through the whole game, since he was sooo powerful. This also makes this particular final fantasy pretty tough to play on an emulator, without a pretty nice comp, and a controller..!

[Monkey D.]

VII all the way. I loved the storyline, although it was difficult to follow until you got used to it. The characters were great, and it didn't suffer from overly cutesy stuff like some of the others, or atrocious amounts of minigames, IMHO.. I just remember so many points in the story where the truly beautiful cutscenes could just leave you speechless, and things such as Sephiroth killing that girl, whats-her-name, which nearly choked me to tears, even after playing through 3 times. I also think that this was one of the very last games I played and beat to nearly 100% of everything, without using online FAQs or buying a strategy guide.. That in itself gives it a special place in my heart.

One of my most hated FF moments? FFIII (if I remember right,) where you had that martial arts character, Sabin I think his name was.. And you had to do fighter-game moves to pull off any of his attacks.. My thumb had the worst blister from using that guy (and gogo, the mimic) through the whole game, since he was sooo powerful. This also makes this particular final fantasy pretty tough to play on an emulator, without a pretty nice comp, and a controller..!

lol her name was aeris and I personally hated and never used her.

[Mikey_]

aeris was useless IMO. i hated using her also cuz she was so weak and i never really invested in extra materia or equipment for her the way i did my other main characters.