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    Quote Originally Posted by ATI Guy
    Though I still think 400 Dollars is outrages For the system alone, and to think they will still lose money on it.
    Considering they are more powerful than almost all home computers are today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaenn
    Considering they are more powerful than almost all home computers are today...
    Well, when the next gen Radeon comes out along with ATIs cross fire, Running dual of them with 512 mb of VRAM apiece, I doubt that a ps3 will put up much of a fight..

    Statistic wise the new Radeon is set to put the Nvidia7 to shame. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaenn
    Considering they are more powerful than almost all home computers are today...
    Indeed. Of course, I'm sure someone will make the argument that they're not computers and are intended to play games, rather then run the multiple tasks a PC is capable of.

    Even so, it helps to put things into perspective when you consider that if you were to buy a computer with similar capabilites then that of the PS3 with the intent of playing games on it, you'd be paying far more then four-hundred bucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by ATI Guy
    Well, when the next gen Radeon comes out along with ATIs cross fire, Running dual of them with 512 mb of VRAM apiece, I doubt that a ps3 will put up much of a fight..

    Statistic wise the new Radeon is set to put the Nvidia7 to shame. .
    Right. That's going to run you what, at least $600 if not more? Just for that, alone? So that's $600, not including the cost of a rig capable of supporting that. Hmn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberxion
    Dude, noone's ever made money on the systems. Microsoft lost shitloads on the XBox, and I'm sure they're going to take losses on the 360 as well.
    Yes... Microsoft is going to take losses on the 360...

    The question is will Nintendo... take losses... They are not pumping as much expensive hardware in to there console.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamGuy
    Yes... Microsoft is going to take losses on the 360...

    The question is will Nintendo... take losses... They are not pumping as much expensive hardware in to there console.
    It's hard to say wether or not Nintendo will take losses, not knowing anything really substantial about the Revolution. I suppose we'll have to wait and see, a phrase I'm growingly increasingly tired of using when referencing the system.

    Eh, I suppose all the cloak-and-dagger secrecy is effective, in that it's keeping the Revolution fresh in people's minds. I just wonder how long that's going to be the case. I'm starting to get a bit fed up myself, despite being a long-time Nintendo fan. Or maybe as a result of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberxion
    There's no way of knowing that right now, is there? All we have to go on, is Nintendo's assertion that specs aren't as important as giving gamers great games.
    We do know some things, Like the Revolution will not have a Hard Drive... and will use DVD's... or DVD sized disks anyway... sure it's not enough to say how much the Revolution is going to cost... but Nintendo just strikes me as the kind of company that would not thow in stuff they can't afford to.

    Your right about the whole OMG what is it thing going on... Really would they just come out with it...

    Hopefully it's worth the wait...

    PS: just a Prediction... but Im guessing that Nintendo will spill the beans for the Revolution the week before the X360 is set to launch...

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    you forget to add onto that $400 initial purchase with the game or 2 plus memory card so you end up spending almost $600. I already have a great PC I don't need a PS3 if it's not going to have any features to make it worth costing $100+ over its competitors and Sony has pissed me off with their shoddy first runs of their consoles. i don't want to sound like a anti-sony fanboy which I know I am I do like a lot of the games on their system and have boughten all their consoles at launch or near launch, but Sony just has this arogant way about them since the PS2 really took off and think they can get away with anything they want.

    Just look what they did with the PSP chargeing north americans an extra $60 or so and throwing in a bunch of cheap crap to make up for it. Not to mention the kinds of statements that came out from Sony when they released the PSP in Japan and had the backlash of japanese consumers complaining about the problems with the square button and the ability to fire a UMD out of the PSP if pressed on a certain way. Sony basically said screw you we'll design the system how we want and you'll buy it. Things like that just piss me off. Though don't get me worng I have gripes with Nintendo and Microsoft as well just Sony's business practices lately have really started to annoy me more then anything the other 2 have done in the console business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberxion
    Right. That's going to run you what, at least $600 if not more? Just for that, alone? So that's $600, not including the cost of a rig capable of supporting that. Hmn.
    I think it's probably closer to the realm of $1000 isn't it?

    Either way the point stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberxion
    Indeed. Of course, I'm sure someone will make the argument that they're not computers and are intended to play games, rather then run the multiple tasks a PC is capable of.

    Even so, it helps to put things into perspective when you consider that if you were to buy a computer with similar capabilites then that of the PS3 with the intent of playing games on it, you'd be paying far more then four-hundred bucks.



    Right. That's going to run you what, at least $600 if not more? Just for that, alone? So that's $600, not including the cost of a rig capable of supporting that. Hmn.
    True .
    Just pointing out, the rich people, will have no need for a ps3, if all you do is pride on graphics..

    One problem. Im far from rich.

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    Wow, from what I just read, Sega needs to make a comeback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaenn
    I think it's probably closer to the realm of $1000 isn't it?

    Either way the point stands.
    http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/06...s_6128332.html
    It is capable of more than 200 gigaflops of performance--or 200 billion floating-point operations per second.
    That's nice... I want a BlueGene.
    BlueGene/L is capable of performing 70.72 teraflops, or trillions of Floating Point Operations per second. Yet, BlueGene/L operates at a fraction of the size and power consumption of traditional systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamGuy
    We do know some things, Like the Revolution will not have a Hard Drive... and will use DVD's... or DVD sized disks anyway... sure it's not enough to say how much the Revolution is going to cost... but Nintendo just strikes me as the kind of company that would not thow in stuff they can't afford to.
    We don't know anything about the Revo spec wise, so who's to say what the system's components are going to cost them? We just don't have much to go on at this point.

    In fact, that's why I've refrained from mentioning Nintendo thus far. I think it's better to leave tenuous speculation out of a discussion, as it's just a fruitless endeavor. You and I could discuss what we think may happen till the cows come home, but without anything substantial to go on, it's all completely pointless.

    Addendum:
    I've tried to find word of how much Nintendo was losing on the GC, if any, but that information seems annoyingly difficult to come by. Finding current information even moreso. I wanted to post this information so as to offer a possible point of reference for determining wether or not Nintendo will lose money on the Revolution, but It's proven hard to do. So I suppose I'll stick to what I said above, which is, not knowing anything about the Revo's technical specs, it's hard to say wether or not Nintendo will lose any money on it.

    EDIT: Kriptin, the PSP reportedly costs about $275 bucks to make, meaning that they're losing almost $100 bucks on every console sold in Japan. I wish the PSP had launched in the US at the Japanese price-point, but I understand that given Nintendo's strangle-hold on the hand-held market to date, and how risky it is to compete with them, they'd want to minimize that loss a bit.
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    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453

    Here is an interesting link to those who know about specs and stuff and instead of declaring a... "winner", but rather tries to do a true, unbiased look at the power of the next gen consoles sans Nintendo's Revolution, the mystery machine. Those who have an understanding of technology; I highly recommend this article. Informative I must say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galcian
    http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453

    Here is an interesting link to those who know about specs and stuff and instead of declaring a... "winner", but rather tries to do a true, unbiased look at the power of the next gen consoles sans Nintendo's Revolution, the mystery machine. Those who have an understanding of technology; I highly recommend this article. Informative I must say.
    Um, okay, I clicked the link and all I get is Anandtech's search engine screen

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    Adding with the price of the PS3 which is wayyy to much for me, the Blue Ray Discs, and I belive BD-ROMs they're using are gonna shoot the price of games up to I believe in the 60 or 70 dollar range. I do remember getting SNES games for that much, but I don't have that kind of money to spending almost 100 dollars on one game. I got better things to do with my money.

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