PSP vs. DS..(Facts)

[Creature]

Well, you know, I think both of these systems are pretty sad and overpriced, esp. the PSP. But that's just how I see it for what I would want in a portable game. The PSP, yes like said, it is too flashy, and a battery killer. But on the other hand, the DS looks like a watery piece of crap, pardon the language. It feels (and looks graphics-wise) like a N64, only worse. No antialiasing and stuff like that, if there is some it's software so who cares (slower). And the multiplay feature. How often do you think the average user is going to get to play with someone? I mean, except in cases where some friends get together and each plan on buying a lot of these things and playing, I doubt much would happen. But I guess there's a big market for this sort of thing now. I just thought portables were just something to kill some time while you're on the go and have to wait around for some reason. That's really all I want. I'd probably still be playing the old gameboy if there was no Advance.
The graphics on portables always suck compared to consoles anyways. Heck, even consoles tend to suck graphically compared to the highest PC games of any given time. Sure, the consoles I think used to have the edge in gameplay and fun over PCs, like back in the SNES days, even a little into the consoles after that. But nowadays, graphics is all anyone ever cares about; and trendy RPGs and RPG-like graphic fests that are almost good cures for insomnia (boring).
But anyways, back to handhelds. I'll stick with the GBA.

[Chaos]

What it comes down to, as I see it, is that if you want something aimed at portable gamers soely then get the DS. But if you want something rather flashy that is as much part of your media entertainment as it is for games (and your not quite so bothered about long runs without a recharge) then the PSP is probably for you.

is that about right?

I think you're right.

I'll still go for the DS, I think that the PSP is just way to expensive.

[Mikey_]

the psp is expensive because its basically a portable ps2. it can do more than the ds can. the ds is a portable n64. to each his own. the psp will appeal to those who like the psx and ps2's while the ds folks'll go for the ds cuz of their experiences with the n64. only problem is the ps2 is way better than the n64 in every way so you get your money's worth. the ds is inexpensive since its a portable n64 and so on.

[GundamGuy]

the psp is expensive because its basically a portable ps2. it can do more than the ds can. the ds is a portable n64. to each his own. the psp will appeal to those who like the psx and ps2's while the ds folks'll go for the ds cuz of their experiences with the n64. only problem is the ps2 is way better than the n64 in every way so you get your money's worth. the ds is inexpensive since its a portable n64 and so on.

First the DS is capable of more then the N64... Did the N64 have wireless play, Pictochat... and an alarmclock...? No i think not...

Besides the PSP's graphics are not quite that of the PS2's... It's a little more blocky...(from the limited time i have seen a PSP in use)
And the DS's graphics are better then a N64... How much better is yet to be seen.. (nothing that pushes it's graphical abilitys has been released yet...)

Farthermore... The PS2 cameout 4 years after the N64... i would expect it to be a better system (hardware wise...) Though the N64 has more audio channels then the PS2 (Gamespot here ) So your assertion, that the PS2 is far better then the N64 in every way... is incorrect. Just most every way.

[Mikey_]

more audio channels? i guess. the n64 sure as hell didn't use all of them then because audio wise no game on the n64 roster could hold its own against the psx and ps2 list of games. cartridges = no good for audio compared to discs. and an alarm clock LOL thats just silly. if you're an adult fully capable of buying a ds then you should be capable and have the funds to buy a real alarm clock. nintendo just didn't know what other lil thing to add to try and have it compete with the psp so sad.

[Strongbad]

cartridges = no good for audio compared to discs.

Aren't the umd's the reason the battery life is so bad on the psp?

[Vivi]

It also depends on the game media for it as well, What goods a bad ass game system without good games? So the DS is also losing in the game department.

[GundamGuy]

It also depends on the game media for it as well, What goods a bad ass game system without good games? So the DS is also losing in the game department.

Really... I thought that was a matter of opinion...

[Josh]

Aren't the umd's the reason the battery life is so bad on the psp?

I don't think it is as much as the UMD as the large LCD screen. Yes reading of the UMD for extended periods can be bad on the battery but in short bursts like most games are it doesn't have as much of an effect.

GundamGuy it sounds like you are trying to say the DS can compete graphicly with the PSP and it's a known fact that isn't possible. The PSP has "near" PS2 quality graphics. Of course they will be lower because you have a slightly lower resolution screen and the PSP doesn't have some of the coprocessors the PS2 has that gives it it's real potential in system power (Gran Turismo 4, Ace Combat 5, Tekken 5, God of War, Killzone) where it can graphicly compete with the Xbox. The PSP isn't this powerful, but it can come pretty close to it or on the same level of the average PS2 game which normally doesn't take advantage of the coproccesors.

The DS is on the same level as the N64 if not slightly better. If you look at Ridge Racers for the DS then the PSP there is no comparison. The PSP version definetly looks much better. I bought the PSP and personally think it was worth the $250. I may not be a graphics whore like some people, but I do enjoy a game with better graphics especially if it's in the same genre or the same game. It just gives it that special something that the other one does. I am also a fan of many Sony games and some of the 3rd party Sony games.

[GundamGuy]

GundamGuy it sounds like you are trying to say the DS can compete graphicly with the PSP and it's a known fact that isn't possible. The PSP has "near" PS2 quality graphics. Of course they will be lower because you have a slightly lower resolution screen and the PSP doesn't have some of the coprocessors the PS2 has that gives it it's real potential in system power (Gran Turismo 4, Ace Combat 5, Tekken 5, God of War, Killzone) where it can graphicly compete with the Xbox. The PSP isn't this powerful, but it can come pretty close to it or on the same level of the average PS2 game which normally doesn't take advantage of the coproccesors.

The DS is on the same level as the N64 if not slightly better. If you look at Ridge Racers for the DS then the PSP there is no comparison. The PSP version definetly looks much better. I bought the PSP and personally think it was worth the $250. I may not be a graphics whore like some people, but I do enjoy a game with better graphics especially if it's in the same genre or the same game. It just gives it that special something that the other one does. I am also a fan of many Sony games and some of the 3rd party Sony games.

Somewhere I think you lost me... I never even aluded to the fact that the DS can compete graphicly with the PSP.

Because i know it can't...

I said that the PSP is not quite as good as the PS2 (in graphics)... you also said this.
I then said that the DS is better then a N64... though we don't know how much yet because no graphic intensive games have been released....

I don't know how you got... DS is just as good as PSP out of that...

It seems as people are looking for things were they can't be found.

[Pizzaking]

It's kind of hard to be on the PSP's side when it costs $350 CAD while the DS is only $200 CAD. Not to mention the DS's huge library when combined with the GBA and great games to come.

[GundamGuy]

It's kind of hard to be on the PSP's side when it costs $350 CAD while the DS is only $200 CAD. Not to mention the DS's huge library when combined with the GBA and great games to come.

Something i noticed in Walmart the other day was that PSP games cost more then DS games... Or most of them were anyway.

[Josh]

Somewhere I think you lost me... I never even aluded to the fact that the DS can compete graphicly with the PSP.

Because i know it can't...

I said that the PSP is not quite as good as the PS2 (in graphics)... you also said this.
I then said that the DS is better then a N64... though we don't know how much yet because no graphic intensive games have been released....

I don't know how you got... DS is just as good as PSP out of that...

It seems as people are looking for things were they can't be found.

Sorry man. I don't know what is up with me today. I'm in a weird mood and am just reading things wrong. Sorry if I sounded offensive.

[Pizzaking]

Something i noticed in Walmart the other day was that PSP games cost more then DS games... Or most of them were anyway.

I think that's Nintendo's angle this time around, "We're cheap, we're innovative, please buy it so we don't go out of business." Not to mention that their advertising in the UK was largerly targeted towards women. If you can't win the market, make a new one.

[Cyberxion]

Something i noticed in Walmart the other day was that PSP games cost more then DS games... Or most of them were anyway.

PSP games feature full soundtracks, cut-scenes, voices and the like, which drives up development costs. They are very nearly console titles in every sence, from graphics and gameplay, to their longevity. In order to get these richly developed games, we gamers have to be willing to pay a little more. I don't mind a single bit.

Hell, I've seen DS games going for fourty bucks, and those can hardly boast of being the fully-fledged console experiences that are available on the PSP.