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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamGuy
    Here's a quote from that site... I did not know that civil wars were counted in the total deaths... in that case... Well that add's a hole bunch of US killed People in less then 7 years.....you know Civil War and all..


    Um.. Communism is Equal Economic Status, not Equal Social Status... That would be Utopia.

    It's quite funny that they word that they are using to pin all these deaths to Lenin is a word they made up... as in its not in the dictionary.

    That site is also farily biased against all forums of economics that are not free market...

    um ya... kind of one sided... that could be why it's linked to that earlyer site of yours...

    If you can find a site that gives those Stat's with out using others opinons.. like raw number's or a site that does not use a made up word as it's basis for the stat's then please link to it.

    You can't get exact numbers for something like that but you can get pretty close. Its is one sided because there is nothing good that comes out of communism the way history portrays it. Again, its hard not to be one-sided. Thus communism will never work because there is no proof that it will, but there is much proof that it won't.
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    wow i can't see my posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmo Yagkoto
    You can't get exact numbers for something like that but you can get pretty close. Its is one sided because there is nothing good that comes out of communism the way history portrays it. Again, its hard not to be one-sided. Thus communism will never work because there is no proof that it will, but there is much proof that it won't.

    LOL... I see your unable to look at it with an open mind..

    Its is one sided because there is nothing good that comes out of communism the way history portrays it.
    Condeming it before even thinking about it... With people like you it's a wonder we think the earth revolves around the sun...

    Thus communism will never work because there is no proof that it will, but there is much proof that it won't.[/
    Their was no proof that Democracy would work untill 1776... but im glad they said it would never work and dimissed it because their was no proof it could work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamGuy
    LOL... I see your unable to look at it with an open mind..



    Condeming it before even thinking about it... With people like you it's a wonder we think the earth revolves around the sun...



    Their was no proof that Democracy would work untill 1776... but im glad they said it would never work and dimissed it because their was no proof it could work...
    Yeah its called the Ancient Greeks since they used democracy. Name something good that has come out of communism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmo Yagkoto
    Yeah its called the Ancient Greeks since they used democracy.
    The ancient greeks used a very primitive version of a Democracy, it isn't the same as our Democratic Republic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falados
    The ancient greeks used a very primitive version of a Democracy, it isn't the same as our Democratic Republic.
    Indeed but it was based on the ancient Greek government and the Articles of Confederation. Pretty close to the same if you ask me. Name something good that has come from communism.
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    I don't think communism is the greatest, there is currently no great government form out there that I think is perfect. And what came out of Democracy that was so great when Americans had a revolution?

    Romans had a Democracy, and they collapsed upon themselves in economic problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmo Yagkoto
    Yeah its called the Ancient Greeks since they used democracy. Name something good that has come out of communism.
    How about a better example... as Democracy and Communism cant be compared... System of Gov., VS. Economics... my bad on that one, i was in a rush to get out of the house.

    Up intill the 1750's Free Market, AKA Global capitalism (What we have in the US) had not been "invented"... Im glad that they dimissed it
    because there is no proof that it will, but there is much proof that it won't
    Every one in the 1750's thought the Free Market was a crazy idea.... You know during the age of Imperalism.

    Farther more, No Communist Country has ever had a great depression. Go figure... The Economics in a Communist country is much more stable then that of a capitalism country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamGuy
    How about a better example... as Democracy and Communism cant be compared... System of Gov., VS. Economics... my bad on that one, i was in a rush to get out of the house.

    Up intill the 1750's Free Market, AKA Global capitalism (What we have in the US) had not been "invented"... Im glad that they dimissed it Every one in the 1750's thought the Free Market was a crazy idea.... You know during the age of Imperalism.

    Farther more, No Communist Country has ever had a great depression. Go figure... The Economics in a Communist country is much more stable then that of a capitalism country.
    No Communist country has had a great depression? Yeah actually i believe most did and especially Russia. Global Capitalism means that there are countries around the world practicing capitalism. US is a capitalist society. But anyway, why would you want someone to decide how much you make and tell you what you need? Wouldn't it be better to just decide what you need on your own. I quote the Muary show, "You don't know me, you don't know me..." because when it gets down to it, no one knows what you need better than yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falados
    I don't think communism is the greatest, there is currently no great government form out there that I think is perfect. And what came out of Democracy that was so great when Americans had a revolution?

    Romans had a Democracy, and they collapsed upon themselves in economic problems.
    Yes but really they spread themselves to thin. Nothing is perfect, even a government system. But you have to way the pros and cons of each economic system. In that sense capitalism wins, because who would you rather have in control of your destiny? Yourself or your government?
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    Global Capitalism means that there are countries around the world practicing capitalism. US is a capitalist society. But anyway, why would you want someone to decide how much you make and tell you what you need? Wouldn't it be better to just decide what you need on your own. I quote the Muary show, "You don't know me, you don't know me..." because when it gets down to it, no one knows what you need better than yourself.
    What... i thought you were for Capitalism not against it.... Your against the U.S. Economic Policys...? Our Economics depend upon forgin trade, and international economics. That's why were losing, we are importing way more then we are Exporting...

    US is a capitalist society
    Societies can not be Capitalist or Communist, their Economics can be, but not the society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmo Yagkoto
    Yes but really they spread themselves to thin. Nothing is perfect, even a government system. But you have to way the pros and cons of each economic system. In that sense capitalism wins, because who would you rather have in control of your destiny? Yourself or your government?
    You think the only important thing in life is money and material values? Money isn't power, money is the tool. I just don't see the point in working your whole life away as a slave to money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falados
    You think the only important thing in life is money and material values? Money isn't power, money is the tool. I just don't see the point in working your whole life away as a slave to money.
    Hey its how you are able to live, money that is. And would you rather be a slave to your government? I never said there was nothing more to life than money, but why not just let people work however hard they want, and let them reap the rewards for it. Just trying to be fair to everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GundamGuy
    What... i thought you were for Capitalism not against it.... Your against the U.S. Economic Policys...? Our Economics depend upon forgin trade, and international economics. That's why were losing, we are importing way more then we are Exporting...


    Societies can not be Capitalist or Communist, their Economics can be, but not the society.
    You know what i meant...I am doing my homework at the same time i am reading stuff so i might get somethings messed up. I like the economic policies of capitalism. What have you to base your theories that communism will work? For capitalism i have the most powerful nation in the world, the USA as my proof.
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    BAH! Money does not concern me. I live life as if I were going to die any second now, because anything is possible. And you aren't a slave to your government in Marxism, if fact, you don't usually work very hard at all, unless you want to.

    EDIT: And please don't double post, there is a edit button under your post, use that rather than post twice in a row.
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