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16th-September-2004, 13:21
#11
I have to disagree with what Isaac Asimov said because I have a very strong feeling Ziegfried had a hand in creating god, or maybe more than his hand
Anyway, not talking about Skinner's reproductive capabilities and coming back to the topic...why does God have to be proven to exist? Are we as humans so lost as souls that we need an equation to explain how we are related to our Gods? I am not talking about a Jesus or an Allah here, I'm talking about the things that people like them represent nand symbolize.Humanity, kindness, generosity...blah, blah, blah...these people hardly said anything that we today perceive and practice as our religion. That's why I said at the beginning too, that God and religion are two different things. I know many here would think I'm barking mad, but that's my pov.
What Muslims follow today in the name of god is a farce to what the kuran said, the same goes for the Church or even Hinduism. I know people would want me dead for saying that, but it's true. Today, the right wing in my country wants a Hindu state and then they claim to be better than Pakistan. My point is, the evolution of religion has far digressed off the actual teachings of God. And thus for us to follow a religion, we don't have to goddamn believe in a God, or even prove he exists, because by trying to conquer lands and ramming planes into buildings in his name we've pretty much proven that he's as believable as a Peter Pan, so why do people who believe in religion want to prove the existence of God?
And for aethists, why do you want to prove that God doesn't exist...just because you believe that Allah was right to say that "love all with peace", does it mean you're a Muslim?
I know I'm offending alot of people who find faith in their religion and thus their respective gods, however, I'm trying to make a very radical point here, that the idea or religion and God are separate and it is the blurring of the lines that separate them, that leads to killing/war/rape/murders/atrocities in the name of God (or what s/he said, because no one you worship says- "It's ok to kill" and if you do worship someone like that, then you're a murderer, not a follower of God.)
There is a reason why terrorists like Bin Laden are referred to as "One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter", it's because, he gives the people an opiate to fight, he arms them with a falsified claim of pleasing Allah with blood.
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