Who do you want be the next president of the USA?

[31337D00D]

lmao, i think thats a good point

[Schutzstaffel]

I'm sure some do.

[Kosmo Yagkoto]

I would vote for Bush, and i will always vote for a republican over democrat because i would rather keep my money. Also Kerry's taxplans will hurt the economy and the stock market. If guns are outlawed then only outlaws will have guns

[Fett aka hmm]

Originally posted by WaffenSSBroli
I agree gun control is stupid, but karragh is right, different times. And I liked the bish quotes, just shows how stupid he really is.

Bush isnt stupid. He went to Harvard (his dad got him in) but HE GRADUATED. He didnt graduae from Harvard because his dad talked to the deans or whatever, he graduated based on his academic merits.

Originally posted by Schutzstaffel
Either that or he simply accidently mixes his words up- alot of people do. Anyways.. not every person is perfect.

Very true, im known to mumble all the time, and people just mistake it for being stupid and not being able to pronounce things.

[Dingy]

Originally posted by karragh
No normal person mixes up their words THAT much.

Good point you made there...after all he's the president! ; )

Originally posted by Fett aka hmm
I think people need to stick to the constitution, and not violate it, or try to amend it like our current one, and last one have.

If you don't amend the constitution then you'll still be living in the 18th century ruled by draconian laws, and people will always stick to the constitution...amending it is keeping it the dynamic document that it should be, it's not in any way violating it!
I agree with karragh, times change!

Everyone can't walk around with a gun strapped to them and with cowboy boots on...everyone's not Bush!: p
There's no need to be armed 24/7 even if it for the cause for self defence...I mean, you're in no potential danger of getting mugged if you're walking to school or something! If everyone has the right to bear arms, without a proper system of checks and balances it'll only make life, short, nasty and brutal! It depends on the circumstances too--I wouldn't relish going to a gun fight armed with a baseball bat!

Originally posted by Fett aka hmm
Besides more kids are killed in car crashes every year than in violence with guns. Should we outlaw cars? of course not, and nothing is written in the constitution about cars either.

A good arguement against this amendment would be that only those people with a registered license should be issued a gun. But as Fett aka hmm rightly pointed out that getting a car registered and even passing a test doesn't reduce the cases of vehicular manslaughter!

As a very wise person once put it--
"They took away my right to bear arms, what am I supposed to fight with--bear palms?"

[Fett aka hmm]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dingy
Good point you made there...after all he's the president! ; )
[quote]
Originally posted by Fett aka hmm
I think people need to stick to the constitution, and not violate it, or try to amend it like our current one, and last one have.

If you don't amend the constitution then you'll still be living in the 18th century ruled by draconian laws, and people will always stick to the constitution...amending it is keeping it the dynamic document that it should be, it's not in any way violating it!
I agree with karragh, times change!

Everyone can't walk around with a gun strapped to them and with cowboy boots on...everyone's not Bush!: p
There's no need to be armed 24/7 even if it for the cause for self defence...I mean, you're in no potential danger of getting mugged if you're walking to school or something! If everyone has the right to bear arms, it only makes life, short, nasty and brutal!

What I meant when I talked about not amending the constitution, was not amending the "Bill of Rights"

Amendment 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Amendment II: A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


Amendment III: No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Amendment V: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


Amendment VI: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.


Amendment VII: In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


Amendment VIII: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


Amendment IX: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


Amendment X: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.


If everyone walked around with a gun strapped to them, theres a good chance armed robbery wouldnt happen nearly as often, and when it did theres a good chance the robber would be the one who dies.

[karragh]

Originally posted by Fett aka hmm

If everyone walked around with a gun strapped to them, theres a good chance armed robbery wouldnt happen nearly as often, and when it did theres a good chance the robber would be the one who dies.

There would be less armed robery you say? some people are just beyond any hope of common sense I guess.


Edit: And about graduation. Just because you graduate does not make you smart, for example too getting flying colours in history, you can be a complete idiot who is just good at memorizing things.

[MasJ]

You're missing the whole point. Armed robberies, don't happen as much as they're going to once guns are available very easily. So you have a gun eh ? Don't you think there's going to be some 'robber' out there with a better gun ? I think thats what robberies are all about.. He gets something out of you because he has an advantage over you..
It doesn't really increase the chances of self defence, it only raises the stakes, to a life and death situation. And also increases the chance of innocent deaths..

[Dingy]

Originally posted by Fett aka hmm
If everyone walked around with a gun strapped to them, theres a good chance armed robbery wouldnt happen nearly as often, and when it did theres a good chance the robber would be the one who dies.

I agree with MasJ...
There's a better chance that if he's a criminal, he'll have a better gun than you, he'll be more experienced than you and that you'll be the one waking up in the hospital the next day.
Also umm...explain how if everyone is armed, it will reduce the danger of being shot??

[karragh]

Originally posted by Dingy
Also umm...explain how if everyone is armed, it will reduce the danger of being shot??

As I said, some people are beyond the hope of comon sense

[Schutzstaffel]

If everyone were armed, wouldn't that create mass paranoia?

[karragh]

Originally posted by Schutzstaffel
If everyone were armed, wouldn't that create mass paranoia?

Everyone would be like Dale Grible, or should I say Rusty Shackleford.

[Dingy]

Originally posted by karragh
Everyone would be like Dale Grible, or should I say Rusty Shackleford.

Who?

[karragh]

Originally posted by Dingy
Who?

A character from a north american TV show, King of the Hill.

[Schutzstaffel]

King of the Hill.

I *really* hate this show- never mention it again!