The Ben 10 Affleck-Out: I feel like fame is wasted on me.

[Tassadar]

Huh, I didn't know that. Bit silly, you should at least have the freedom to your opinions, no matter how ludicrous they are.

I completely agree.

[deadlegion]

DL beat me to it, if people tolerate Scientology they can tolerate Holocaust deniers as well.

No love for the satanists? awww

[Tassadar]

Yeah, denial is stupid but having that opinion and it being illegal is restricting freedom of speech.
People can say they love satan, or be scientologists ffs

Anyway, like I said the "holocaust" isn't just about Jews.
And there have been other instances of mass murder in history but none were as well documented.
Because the Germans are very organised and methodical.

Yes, there were Gypsies and homosexuals and basically anybody who Hitler didn't like went into the camps.

I've noticed a huge rise in Neo-Naziism on the internet this past year.

In terms of media attention the Holocaust receives a disproportionately large amount when compared to the Holodomir, Stalin's Purges, Killing field etc.

[Gare]

No love for the satanists? awww

Scientology is worse.

Also, good old Westboro Baptist Church, don't forget them either.

[deadlegion]

DL beat me to it, if people tolerate Scientology they can tolerate Holocaust deniers as well.

The French don't tolerate anybody

[Corey]

Maybe the numbers aren't accurate (6 million?), maybe they are. But yeah I seriously doubt it didn't happen. But then you see people say stuff like "not a single Jew died because of the Nazis" and you just shake your head.

It actually really confuses me when people say they're on the fence about whether they believe the holocaust happened, or don't believe it or anything like that. Maybe I don't understand exactly what you're saying, or maybe since it was pounded into our heads in school to "never do something this terrible. We're Americans, we SAVE people, not kill them!" but I've always taken the holocaust as a concrete thing that happened.

I usually just left it at some ignorant asshole or someone like Cheezy, but seeing you guys discuss it the same way makes me really question what I've learned.

[Corey]

Yes, there were Gypsies and homosexuals and basically anybody who Hitler didn't like went into the camps.

I've noticed a huge rise in Neo-Naziism on the internet this past year.

In terms of media attention the Holocaust receives a disproportionately larger amount when compared to the Holodomir, Stalin's Purges, Killing field etc.

Yeah it was any minority really. Although Hitler himself told his guys to leave a few select people alone. He had a Jewish friend in particular I remember giving immunity to for reasons I can't remember. (Who eventually wound up in a camp anyway)

I remember learning about those other ones you mentioned, the stalin purges in particular, but I can't say I remember it as well since the holocaust was basically 9 and 10th grade for us Americans.

[Sprung]

When I was in school, they really just said "looks an holocaust! is be an bad thing" and we went on to more war stuffs. I guess they still sanitized the evil out back in the 80's.

[Gare]

"never do something this terrible. We're Americans, we SAVE people, not kill them!" but I've always taken the holocaust as a concrete thing that happened.

This actually got me wondering, just out of pure curiosity, how does American education treat Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Also, you would be surprised. I did a bit of Googling around out of curiosity, saw some pretty lengthy arguments on the topic on some forums. One guy was saying he didn't think it was possible not to deny the Holocaust seeing how much "evidence" was apparently against it.

Keep in mind said poster had Mussolini as his avatar, so yeah.

[deadlegion]

Yes, there were Gypsies and homosexuals and basically anybody who Hitler didn't like went into the camps.

I've noticed a huge rise in Neo-Naziism on the internet this past year.

In terms of media attention the Holocaust receives a disproportionately large amount when compared to the Holodomir, Stalin's Purges, Killing field etc.

A lot of Slavs from the occupied territories, and even Soviet POW's too.

Spoiler warning:

My grandfather was an ethnic Pole, but escaped persecution simply because his father served in Kaiser Wilhelm II's army in WWI.
Because of that (and the fact that he wasn't Jewish, and he spoke fluent German) he was given a choice: to join the labour force and work where he was sent, or to join the Wehrmacht.

Yeah, I don't think anyone will really know for sure how many people Stalin killed.
Mao is another one.

Like I said; other mass killings aren't well documented.

[Gare]

The French don't tolerate anybody

One of the best stand up routines on this topic.

[deadlegion]

This actually got me wondering, just out of pure curiosity, how does American education treat Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Not sure because I'm not American.
But that stuff happened before the use of such weapons was prohibited.

So it's like; yeah, we'll hit you with this shit twice just to make sure it works ok and you get the message...we're sick of our boys dying at the hands of you tough sob's.
Ok, now nobody is allowed to use this shit.

[Tassadar]

Not sure because I'm not American.
But that stuff happened before the use of such weapons was prohibited.

So it's like; yeah, we'll hit you with this shit twice just to make sure it works ok and you get the message...we're sick of our boys dying at the hands of you tough sob's.
Ok, now nobody is allowed to use this shit.

It wasn't prohibited because there had only ever been one Nuclear device detonated prior which was the Trinity test bombing in the Nevada desert.

[deadlegion]

that stuff happened before the use of such weapons was prohibited.

It wasn't prohibited because there had only ever been one Nuclear device detonated prior which was the Trinity test bombing in the Nevada desert.

Ok, I shouldn't have said "prohibited" because there isn't a law preventing states from using nukes, but we're talking about targeting civilian populations. Carpet bombing of cities like what happened in WWII isn't cool either.

[Raype]

Yeah it was any minority really.

Not really just minorities though.

If you were a German male and decided you weren't "down" with the whole "being in the military" thing, you quickly found yourself in a camp.

Which is an aspect that's kinda overlooked because there's a few countries that happen to still be big on conscription.

Also, it kinda makes it a bit harder to hate the Nazi's/WWII era Germans when you realize they were essentially victims too in a weird way.

In short, Hitler hated the shit out of those damn dirty hippies.