What are you playing right now #2

[Raype]

Feel free to do it if you want. I've been toying with the idea of continuing my LP of it, but I always put it off/get distracted. So I doubt I'll ever get around to it.

Anyway, I'm roughly 20 hours into New Vegas and I'm liking it. So far I'm pleased with Obsidian, seems like they've done a decent job of correcting some of Bethesda's lore rape in FO3. I love how the Brotherhood of Steel is portrayed properly this time, and they act the way they should (FO1), and not they way they did in FO3. Nostalgic nerdgasms were had.

But it wasn't lore rape. They specifically said in-game that Lyons wasn't especially liked by the higher ups because he believed in the average guy. Not that it mattered, since the BoS wasn't very deeply entrenched on the east coast (they're more of a west coast thing). The ones that do pop up on the east coast function more like the BoS did in 2 or Tactics.

Just because you don't pay attention doesn't make it bad.

[tatsuya]

Okami ps2 <3

[Gare]

But it wasn't lore rape. They specifically said in-game that Lyons wasn't especially liked by the higher ups because he believed in the average guy. Not that it mattered, since the BoS wasn't very deeply entrenched on the east coast (they're more of a west coast thing). The ones that do pop up on the east coast function more like the BoS did in 2 or Tactics.

Just because you don't pay attention doesn't make it bad.

I know it's explained. Kind of. I still found it rather weird seeing a group that, in the first game, sent me on a hopeless suicide mission for the lulz portrayed like heroes of the wasteland. I still have a feeling you're giving Bethesda way too much credit, though. This is the same company that brought us gems such as "sorry my companion, but no" (yes, I know it was fixed later. It was still fucking retarded.) and the "[Intelligence]So you fight the good fight with your voice", among others.

I personally think it's clear as day that they put shit in their games because "lololol it's cool and stuff" without giving it any deeper thought, but let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.

[Raype]

I know it's explained. Kind of. I still found it rather weird seeing a group that, in the first game, sent me on a hopeless suicide mission for the lulz portrayed like heroes of the wasteland. I still have a feeling you're giving Bethesda way too much credit, though. This is the same company that brought us gems such as "sorry my companion, but no" (yes, I know it was fixed later. It was still fucking retarded.) and the "[Intelligence]So you fight the good fight with your voice", among others.

I personally think it's clear as day that they put shit in their games because "lololol it's cool and stuff" without giving it any deeper thought, but let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.

It's been centuries since FO1. Things change. The ultimate goal of the brotherhood is saving humanity. They just happened to subscribe to some pretty radical beliefs way back. And, again, Fallout Tactics, the only east coast BoS chapter as far as some people are concerned, is even more "heroic" than this one. The BoS moved forward a lot since the early days. At least partially because of the vault dweller. You know shit's changed when there's mutants and ghouls serving with the brotherhood. Also, keep playing Vegas. They make even more of a point that "things changed". The forefathers of this BoS weren't anything like the current crop.

I consider those quotes a step up from fart jokes, personally. So yeah.

And it's not "kinda" explained. It's heavily apparent. What did you think that whole BoS civil war was about? One faction subscribes to a more forward thinking BoS doctrine (2, Tactics,previous Vegas), the other is throwing away centuries of improved wastelander/military relations to go back to being xenophobic meatheads (FO1, the current Vegas brotherhood).

Isn't Obsidian run by the same people who said "there is no east coast anymore", just to retcon that two games later for a sidestory? And didn't they also rewrite the entire backstory like twice (once for FO1, once for VB), the second of which was so stupid it's pretty much physically painful to read?

[Gare]

I based my opinion on these folks I met in a bunker in a place called Hidden Valley, I think. Not sure how much of a role the BoS will play later on, but we'll see. As for things changing, I'll go with the "fair enough" response, even though I'm not the biggest fan of said changes. But you're so good at explaining things, I enjoy reading your posts even when we disagree.

I certainly hope I can finish Vegas at least in the foreseeable future. The core game is pretty huge from what I heard, and I have mods installed. Mods that add dozens of new locations to the wasteland. I spent several hours exploring this cave system, only to find out it was a mod-exclusive location. Fuck me.

[Raype]

I based my opinion on these folks I met in a bunker in a place called Hidden Valley, I think. Not sure how much of a role the BoS will play later on, but we'll see. As for things changing, I'll go with the "fair enough" response, even though I'm not the biggest fan of said changes. But you're so good at explaining things, I enjoy reading your posts even when we disagree.

That'd be them, yes. They're pretty much the only remaining traces of the brotherhood in the region. For a reason.

The brotherhood came out to the Mojave with the intent of grabbing some tech and improving things in the region under the support of one of those wide eyed idealists (by typical/historical brotherhood standards, anyway). Pretty much a direct copy paste of what Lyons was doing in the capital wastes. While this has had some amount of success in some areas, this one happens to be a tough sell. Things obviously go far south and war breaks out with some of the other factions trying to get their hands on some priority tech. People die, shit hits the fans, and their leader kind of got a little nutty somewhere in the process.

As the only survivors of this whole thing, the HV BoS is obviously more than a little pissed off with the locals. Which leads to them behaving more like their distant forefathers than the more recent brotherhood policies (which happen to be a little bit more tolerant overall and some groups have even become outright helpful.).

[Dr Mario]

Also, the BOS have been learning the hard way that they need to change. Its not like the immediate Fallout 1 era when they were stomping around confiscating tech from tribals who didn't know how to turn the damned things on. They're at odds with the NCR, a militarised faction with the numbers and firepower to hold a couple states worth of territory, as well as the Legion, the Raider groups and even the unaligned locals - and the Brotherhood has already lost two major scraps, which basically resulted in the NCR taking a whole bunch of Brotherhood gear and (badly) reverse engineering it.

So they're isolated. They barely have a replacement birth rate when they're not losing soldiers. Their tech advantage has been slowly slipping away for decades. And they're at war with pretty much every power in the Wasteland.

If they don't start loosening up, they're gone from the Wasteland within a generation or two. Extinct or forgotten, it doesn't really matter.

[Raype]

To add to that, the composition of their major competition has changed significantly.

Back then, the most they had to contend with were ghouls and super mutants. Sure, they were at war with them, but so was everyone else. They could safely sit back in their bunkers and watch what happens, then come out and pick up the pieces once the problem resolves itself. With their tech, they'd be quite capable of steamrolling any opposition.

But once 2 rolled around they had the Enclave to deal with. Which can best be classified as "like the BoS, but better at it and less afraid to conscript outside help". They were no longer the top of the food chain and their previous plans suddenly seemed a lot less likely to succeed. Especially once the Enclave started actively going for tech caches, several of which the Brotherhood made the mistake of sitting on top of.

From that point forth they had to contend with more human opponents. Several of whom had gotten their hands on tech adequate enough to pose a threat (at least partially because the Enclave used advanced tech to barter with raiders and the like).

[Zaladane]

Feel free to do it if you want. I've been toying with the idea of continuing my LP of it, but I always put it off/get distracted. So I doubt I'll ever get around to it.

Anyway, I'm roughly 20 hours into New Vegas and I'm liking it. So far I'm pleased with Obsidian, seems like they've done a decent job of correcting some of Bethesda's lore rape in FO3. I love how the Brotherhood of Steel is portrayed properly this time, and they act the way they should (FO1), and not they way they did in FO3. Nostalgic nerdgasms were had.

VEGAS!!!! I'm into that right now, like it much better than 3. Now all we have to do is convince Drag it's much better!! No, seriously Drag you'll like this one!!!

At least it's not as grey..

Also, onto quest for glory 3!!!!

[Ace Ventura]

Playing Burnout Paradise when I'm not watching Netflix lol. And also playing some Black Ops, just waiting for MW3.

[Stark]

Playing Duke Nukem Forever. Seems rude for the sake of being rude, something I probably would have enjoyed many years ago, but doesn't do it for me now. Also for a shooter, hasn't done anything great so far.

[Chicken Boo]

PSP Legend of Mana

[Fuhzimota]

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 XBOX 360(still rockin' the LAN parties! lol)
Call of Duty: Black Ops XBOX 360
Mortal Kombat XBOX 360 (Freddy Rules!)
Mario Kart Wii (The most addictive game.... EVER)
anything I can find for my SNES Emu on my Android (Uniracers.... )

[Stark]

Playing Duke Nukem Forever. Seems rude for the sake of being rude, something I probably would have enjoyed many years ago, but doesn't do it for me now. Also for a shooter, hasn't done anything great so far.

This game has gotten really boring now I'm an achievement whore and I can't see myself attempting to get the full 1000 for this game even though I think all of the achievements are single player ones.

[Aeolus Aeneas]

I got back to playing the first Shin Megami Tensei for the Super Famicom and Dragon Quest VIII for the PS2. Both of which I just one day dropped for no good reason (I tend to do that with games I adore; I'm weird) and have come back to because I really wanna finish them.