Video of Officer Berating 14 year old

[Evans]

How about instead of raising taxes, we just stop spending billions in 'pointless' wars?

*bullshit snip*

Good question.

[Jetsetlemming]

How about instead of raising taxes, we just stop spending billions in the pointless wars of an over-ambitious business man? Everyone knows Saddam Husein, while being a dick, had nothing to do with the attacks on the twin towers. Bush and his cabinet were making plans to attack Iraq, before 9/11. Why? Oil.

What Bush didn't know (actually, if we were to talk about everything Bush didn't know, this would be a book, not a post.) was that Saddam, as terrible as he was, was the only thing holding the region together. And now he's dead.

Did he deserve it more than Bush? It may surprise you, but Bush may have been responsible for the deaths of more people, then Saddam was. While Bush was Governor of Texas, he signed the death warrants of over 30 people a year, as compared to the 8 a year before him. During a hearing he even mocked one person, before signing the warrant.

How the heck did I get so of subject? Oh yeah, End The War. Raise Cops Pay. Put More Money Into Education And Social Programs.

Just fixed this country's problems.

If I don't post for awhile, it's cause I was picked up by the "Patriot" Act. (Which isn't an original idea, google "espionage act")

I can't neg rep you because I apparently I need to spread some rep around more, so instead I'll just quote you and call you a jackass.
Jackass.

Also, I, in that situation, probably would've been far more deserving of his rant than the skateboarder once he started talking like that. Luckily for me, most of the cops I've known and dealt with have been alright, I respect cops in general, but people acting like that pisses me off faster than anything. As soon as the cop grabbed the kid and wrestled him down to take the skateboard, I felt like punching someone.
That kid'll soon be rich enough to buy 100 skateboards once the lawsuit goes down, of course. This guy's fucked.
The kids shouldn't of been skateboarding where they shouldn't have been, and he shouldn't have made comments like the "I have no father" thing, but christ almighty. It's no goddamn excuse for how that guy acted.

[Chibi-Suke]

Okay I'm going to:
Delete that post.
Apologize
and never come back to this thread again.

[Tassadar]

City officials are speaking out about a controversial YouTube video that shows a Baltimore Police Officer manhandling a teen. That officer has been suspended pending an internal investigation.

The confrontation at the Inner Harbor was caught on tape last summer. Officer Salvatore Rivieri, a 17 year veteran with the Baltimore Police Department, is shown yelling at a teenage skateboarder. On the video he says to the teen, "You hear me, I'm not your father. You give that attitude to your father. You give it to me, I'll smack you upside your head... Shut your mouth I'm talking."

The video then shows the officer approaching the teen, putting him in a headlock, and pushing him to the ground. The officer walks away with the teen's skateboard, but comes back accusing the teen of disrespecting him for calling him dude. "First of all you disrespected me, this badge, and my department. You understand, when I'm talking to you, you shut your mouth."

Officer Rivieri has been suspended with pay while police conduct an internal investigation. Both the police commissioner and Mayor have watched the video. Mayor Dixon says, "I’m really disturbed about the police officer's action and I think it could've been handled differently." Sterling Clifford, spokesman for the Baltimore Police Department says, "Obviously it raises red flags for us. There's a level of courtesy for us that we hope all officers will use that wasn't there."

Signs are posted around the Inner Harbor stating skateboarding is not allowed. But not everyone knows about the rule. We found some kids skateboarding at the pavilion.

Current news on the police officer.

[Evans]

Didn't expect him to get fired, but to be suspended with pay?

Mmmm, me no likey.

[Elmdor Rizer]

Isn't that pretty standard though?

Seems odd to take away someone's wage before finding him guilty, so to speak.

[Libra]

Good, maybe dumbass cop learned his lesson.

[Evans]

Isn't that pretty standard though?

Seems odd to take away someone's wage before finding him guilty, so to speak.

And what exactly in that video makes you think he's not guilty?

[Elmdor Rizer]

And what exactly in that video makes you think he's not guilty?

Well, "guilty of doing anything bad enough for him to be fired". Even if it looks bad it'd be quite insane to suspend him without wage and then reinstate him. IMO, of course.

[Jetsetlemming]

Well, "guilty of doing anything bad enough for him to be fired". Even if it looks bad it'd be quite insane to suspend him without wage and then reinstate him. IMO, of course.

You're right, though I can't imagine what kind of "investigation" is required that's long enough for them to bother acting and suspending him before just handing down the pink slip. When he grabbed the kid and took him down, even though the kid was doing nothing but talking to him, I think it's pretty clear he broke some fucking rules.
With something like that, I'd kinda expect them to be able to judge fast enough that suspending him first wouldn't be necessary, they can fire him on the spot.
Turn in your gun and badge, Officer Rivieri. You're a loose cannon, you don't know how to do it by the book. You're off the case.

[Panda Man]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/loc...,2584690.story

Suspended!

[Dr Mario]

You're right, though I can't imagine what kind of "investigation" is required that's long enough for them to bother acting and suspending him before just handing down the pink slip. When he grabbed the kid and took him down, even though the kid was doing nothing but talking to him, I think it's pretty clear he broke some fucking rules.
With something like that, I'd kinda expect them to be able to judge fast enough that suspending him first wouldn't be necessary, they can fire him on the spot.
Turn in your gun and badge, Officer Rivieri. You're a loose cannon, you don't know how to do it by the book. You're off the case.

Any investigation like this needs to be done properly. Everything by the book and all that. Why? morale and legalities. They do not want the grunts to get it into their head that a single fuckup could get them screwed over without a fair trial. They also don't want the lawsuit factor they'd get if they turfed a guy and later found out that the situation wasn't quite what they assumed.

But for something like this, the odds of the cop actually being fired are somewhere around nil. He'll probably be given some time off (with or without pay) and told to attend a few training sessions.

[Paul Miller]

That cop was not a dick. He was maybe a little overboard but those kids are punk ass biotches and deserved every bit of it. he back talked a god dam officer like WTFF!!!!!! Also the way he said it was disrespectful so that should prove like something

Being a "punk ass biotch" does not make you a second class citizen. You do not lose your rights for being a kid, or for being a skateboarder. The cop asked if he heard them, the kid replied that he did not. They didn't continue to skateboard, they didn't try to run, and they didn't threaten the officer, nor did they use any language unacceptable for public broadcast or anything racially/sexually offensive. The situation is well in hand, there is 40 seconds of video showing that. No need to lay a finger on anyone.

But, imagine if you were the cop. Even if you aren't an asshole skateboarder (not necessarily to other skateboarders, but to cops), there are plenty of them out there. I would go as far as to say the majority. If a majority of kids skateboarders heckled you (called you pig, made donut jokes, etc.), then wouldn't you be more prone to be an asshole to all skateboarders?

That's part of the job. Nobody says when you are the customer service guy at Best Buy you don't have a 50 year old woman yell at you because the desktop she didn't plug in won't turn on. If they're being that asinine, then prosecute them to the fullest extent of your power, but not beyond. Fine them, confiscate their board, whatever. Hands off though... we don't need the police propagating the violence.

Well, "guilty of doing anything bad enough for him to be fired". Even if it looks bad it'd be quite insane to suspend him without wage and then reinstate him. IMO, of course.

Of course, the officer is entitled to his due process as well.

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The best link for the story might be: http://wjz.com/local/youtube.salvato....2.651552.html

It's got some replies from his attorney there that are pretty outlandish. I wrote to the mayor last week (as I'm a city resident) and haven't heard back yet. I'm primarily appalled by the end... he asks if the camera is on. If he's properly performing his public service in a public place (which they can't stop him from filming), then he's happy to have video shown. It shows he knows he was doing something wrong, something that would not be taken kindly to by the general populace and those above him, and that makes it all the worse for me. I couldn't possibly make a case for him unknowingly doing something wrong.

[blazinasian]

But, imagine if you were the cop. Even if you aren't an asshole skateboarder (not necessarily to other skateboarders, but to cops), there are plenty of them out there. I would go as far as to say the majority. If a majority of kids skateboarders heckled you (called you pig, made donut jokes, etc.), then wouldn't you be more prone to be an asshole to all skateboarders?

actually, no. i've always been taught to show respect even when disrespected. and that's what i've always done. i have been talked down to as a skateboarder and still showed my respect. in the end, nothing can be held against me.