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    Default HD failure...is it?

    My, but this is probably one of the more interesting problems I've had lately. Let us see now; the hard drive in question is my primary, a 320 GB Seagate (I think) NTFS formatted. Over the past...call it half-month, now, my Windows install has been acting more and more irregularily. It will crash every so often, and in general suffer various misfortunes. I ran a scandisk with a repair of all bad sectors earlier this week; after around 5-6 hours, it finished, though I couldn't find the log file to find just how bad the situation was. It seemed to work fine after that, but now, I can't access certain file directories. For instance, if I go into C:\ or C:\Tempo, the program reading the directory will crash. This includes Media Player or Explorer.exe (which, thankfully, immediately restarts rather than forcing me to do it manually). In addition, if it helps at all, I also found a little thing to check the S.M.A.R.T. data off the device. I think you may be able to read the full report here, but if that doesn't work, then I shall simply note that all areas were green except Power On Hours Count (Current 93; Raw 6827; average limit 100-100) and Hardware EEC Recovered (Current 63; Raw 29608628; average limit 64-98).

    So, with that background, a couple questions. The first, obviously, is if this is indeed a hard drive failure, or some sort of corruption elsewhere. To me, who has had three...four hard drives fail in the last three years, it may look like a duck, walk like a duck, and quack like a duck, but it could still be worth a gander. In addition, does any one know any good reliable hard drive models? Seagate and Western Digital are the big two I know (I'm using two from each company, actually), but...well, I've had trouble with both and Maxtor as well, now. That's pretty much it, unless anyone has any ideas why my hard drives keep failing. Temperatures on this are around 35C, and dust should not a significant concern. They are kept on for days or weeks at a time, though, so a lack of cool-down time may be a concern. It is worth noting that this hard drive was bought concurrently with a larger 500 GB model, also Seagate, which has not expressed similar problems...though looking through the S.M.A.R.T. data, it's only just barely within tolerances on both of the above as well as Spin Up Time and Raw Read Errors...oh dear.

    I swear, hard drives seem to last only around a year nowadays. I even spent extra to build a completely new computer rather than recycle any parts from Tsu-chan. I'm just glad I copied over every single file on Tramontana up on Garigliano rather than waiting until I could get the manual for the RAID controller.

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    Sorry, couldn't resist.

    SMART looks good. Could be the RAM actually, try downloading a copy of UBCD, burning it and booting from it.

    http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

    Now go to Mainboard tools, memory diagnostics and run MEMTEST86+. Let that run about 4 passes, and if no errors pop up then all is well with the RAM.

    If that doesn't help we'll need more info. What OS are you using, and how many hard disks have failed in this build?

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    Not much. The RAM checked out decent (2 errors total running three of the tests on multiple passes, not duplicated).

    Operating system is Windows XP with SP2. This would be the first hard drive failure with this build if it is indeed the hard drive, but the build is only around a year old now (I built it up a couple months after the last HD failure in November 2006). Would it be helpful to post the full dxdiag output? I would just as it is, but it's over twice the character limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Culise View Post
    Not much. The RAM checked out decent (2 errors total running three of the tests on multiple passes, not duplicated).

    Operating system is Windows XP with SP2. This would be the first hard drive failure with this build if it is indeed the hard drive, but the build is only around a year old now (I built it up a couple months after the last HD failure in November 2006). Would it be helpful to post the full dxdiag output? I would just as it is, but it's over twice the character limit.
    Upload a text file. ;]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evans View Post
    Upload a text file. ;]
    Bah, where's the fun in that.
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    I think it's just a corrupt OS install to be honest, could be caused by a number of things, including the RAM giving ANY errors... and yours did (but nothing conclusive :\).

    Run memtest86 for 5 passes with just one stick of RAM. Remove it and put a different one in. Repeat until you've tested every DIMM. If any one of them gives errors, then there's your problem. If they all give errors, you could have motherboard failure :O

    Regardless, I don't think it's the HDD, try formatting/reinstalling. Also, did you OC this PC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda Man View Post
    I think it's just a corrupt OS install to be honest, could be caused by a number of things, including the RAM giving ANY errors... and yours did (but nothing conclusive :\).

    Run memtest86 for 5 passes with just one stick of RAM. Remove it and put a different one in. Repeat until you've tested every DIMM. If any one of them gives errors, then there's your problem. If they all give errors, you could have motherboard failure :O

    Regardless, I don't think it's the HDD, try formatting/reinstalling. Also, did you OC this PC?
    Nothing conclusive? RAM giving errors is quite conclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polobunny View Post
    Nothing conclusive? RAM giving errors is quite conclusive.
    But we don't know which DIMM it is silly bunny!

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    Well, I didn't feel like running the exact same test battery I ran originally (for all four, something like 2 weeks would have been needed, given 24-36 hours for all three tests), but I still found the glitch starting in something like the 6-7th pass for first chip. I'm rather miffed, because it turned out to be one in the pair of two new 1 GB DIMMs I bought two months ago. Still, the replacement warranty is still available as long as I can get it out before the end of the month, but then again, I need the original packaging and receipt, which I returned to them already because they had accidentally added an extra $400 video card to my order.

    This is going to be fun. At least that seemed to be the only one.

    EDIT: Oh, and no overclocking. I have enough computer failure problems without adding my own incompetence to the mix.
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    just out of curiosity did you try navigating the drive in a dos shell? I had a problem before where I had some corrupted videos in a folder and when I navigated to it the browser would crash due to it trying to load thumbs for the corrupted files. but I would definitely do something about the ram there

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