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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivolt View Post
    How can you possibly find the Sasuke Betrayal arc filler?
    It's one of, if not the most, important parts of the story.

    They cannot just rush through the episodes, as if they are going to stay faithful to the manga, they have to spread it out a bit.
    And the Chunin Exam was only 37 episodes.
    it was? oh, is the whole taking over the city/gaara monster thing not part of it?

    i find the sasuke betrayel arc filler because it took nearly 30 episodes for them to chase the sound five, beat um up, and for sasuke to get owned by naruto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    it was? oh, is the whole taking over the city/gaara monster thing not part of it?

    i find the sasuke betrayel arc filler because it took nearly 30 episodes for them to chase the sound five, beat um up, and for sasuke to get owned by naruto.
    Nope, that's a separate arc. If you count it though, then it was 80 episodes.:\

    They had to spread it out as the anime had almost caught up to the manga at that point. That's why when it ended they had the huge ass filler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivolt View Post
    Nope, that's a separate arc. If you count it though, then it was 80 episodes.:\

    They had to spread it out as the anime had almost caught up to the manga at that point. That's why when it ended they had the huge ass filler.
    considered by many to be the exact number of episodes that werent filler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    it was? oh, is the whole taking over the city/gaara monster thing not part of it?

    i find the sasuke betrayel arc filler because it took nearly 30 episodes for them to chase the sound five, beat um up, and for sasuke to get owned by naruto.
    Sasuke wasn't owned by Naruto. Naruto went one tail, and once Sasuke went CS2, he pretty much flattened Naruto's ass and left him to be carried off by Kakashi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Sasuke wasn't owned by Naruto. Naruto went one tail, and once Sasuke went CS2, he pretty much flattened Naruto's ass and left him to be carried off by Kakashi.
    okay, watch the first 19 minutes of that episode, then the one minute of naruto being really tired for a second and sasuke running away like a small girl (he does look like a woman with lipstick included in CS2...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    okay, watch the first 19 minutes of that episode, then the one minute of naruto being really tired for a second and sasuke running away like a small girl (he does look like a woman with lipstick included in CS2...)
    What I remember was Naruto constantly being on Sasuke's dick through out the entire damn arc, trying to force him back to Konoha. They started off evenly, then Sasuke used his Sharingan, then Naruto went one tails, then Sasuke went CS2, etc. In the end, they both went for their signature moves, and Naruto was tossed aside like an orange bag of doodoo. And Kakashi served as the garbage man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Naruto was tossed aside like an orange bag of doodoo. And Kakashi served as the garbage man.
    Well, after re watching that episode, they get all funky in their big ass black sphere of chakralyness and then it shows naruto out cold...

    WHO is to stay sasuke wasnt at an inch of his life and crawled away?

    i mean if sasuke did not kill naruto, i beleive that means naruto did not get owned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Well, after re watching that episode, they get all funky in their big ass black sphere of chakralyness and then it shows naruto out cold...
    It was his Kyuubi'd Rasengan vs Chidori.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    WHO is to stay sasuke wasnt at an inch of his life and crawled away?
    Because, he wasn't. Sasuke clearly walked away, then left. Being an inch away from his life, he wouldn't have even been in CS2 form nor been able to walk away the way he did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    i mean if sasuke did not kill naruto, i beleive that means naruto did not get owned...
    Sasuke didn't need to kill Naruto in order to own him. No one needs to be killed in order to be owned.
    Spoiler warning:
    Itachi owned both Orochimaru and Deidara with just his Sharingan, yet didn't kill'em. Sasuke used his Sharingan to own Manda and take the blast, but he didn't kill him. There are ways of owning someone without out right killing them.
    Although, Sasuke really wasn't there to kill Naruto anyway at their Valley fight, becaus then he knew he'd be doing exactly what Itachi told him to do: to kill his best friend in order to gain Mangekyou Sharingan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    Because, he wasn't. Sasuke clearly walked away, then left. Being an inch away from his life, he wouldn't have even been in CS2 form nor been able to walk away the way he did.
    what does being in CS2 have to do with being about to die and not being able to walk away, i mean AFTER the whole rasengan v. chidori dealio..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    what does being in CS2 have to do with being about to die and not being able to walk away, i mean AFTER the whole rasengan v. chidori dealio..
    CS2 is Sasuke's booster. Just like how Naruto has his Kyuubi as his booster. It provides Sasuke with increased power, chakra, and he can fly. By the end, Sasuke walked away because he was unharmed by Naruto's Rasengan. Why? Because he was in CS2 (and because Naruto's dumbass missed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    CS2 is Sasuke's booster. Just like how Naruto has his Kyuubi as his booster. It provides Sasuke with increased power, chakra, and he can fly. By the end, Sasuke walked away because he was unharmed by Naruto's Rasengan. Why? Because he was in CS2 (and because Naruto's dumbass missed).
    The Rasengan hit the freaking Chidori...

    how does either miss?

    sasuke's chidori goes under naruto, and the rasengan hits sasuke's forehead protector, if THAT is what your talking about.

    but your saying CS2>One Tails?

    i dont beleive that is exactly true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    but your saying CS2>One Tails?

    i dont beleive that is exactly true.
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Griffin View Post
    How so?
    for one thing the people in the anime have seen like a solid minute of CS2 in action, and well, One Tails was pwning the crap out of sasuke...

    if he could have went CS2 and done somthing other than use chidori and then vanish...

    maybe we could have gotten a better estimate of his power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    for one thing the people in the anime have seen like a solid minute of CS2 in action, and well, One Tails was pwning the crap out of sasuke...

    if he could have went CS2 and done somthing other than use chidori and then vanish...

    maybe we could have gotten a better estimate of his power.
    When they both were in booster forms, Naruto wasn't owning anyone. Exactly what fight were you watching? Sasuke went CS2 and Naruto went 1 tail. After that, they both went for their signature moves, and only one was left standing. At that point in time, Sasuke > Naruto. CS2 > 1 tail.

    Sasuke + CS2 > Naruto + 1 tail. It's how it went down. That is fact.

    @Naruto needing to be in 1 tail mode to fight Base Sasuke.

    Edit: Yeah, it was Rasengan vs Chidori. It wasn't that Naruto missed, his Rasengan hit head to head with Sasuke's Chidori. It looked as if Naruto's Rasengan just kind of got over powered, and then he went to scratch Sasuke's forehead protector. Looking at the fight just now, there was not one point in time where Sasuke was in any real danger for his life. Hell, Naruto was forced to go 1 tails while Sasuke was in regular form.
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    Naruto ran out of Chakra/energy.

    That's why he lost.

    Sasuke did manage to pierce Naruto's shirt with his hand at the end, but the wound Naruto suffered there wasn't that bad.
    After the fight, you don't even see any blood, just a hole in his shirt.

    Also, keep in mind the whole time that Naruto was chasing after Sasuke, fighting the Sound Four, etc, Sasuke was resting comfortably in a barrel.

    So, it wasn't exactly a fair fight.

    Naruto also lost quite a bit of Chakra to Jirobou too, although since that happened early in the chase, he probably replenished most of that by the time he caught up to Sasuke.

    But then he also wasted a lot of Chakra in his fight with Sasuke too, especially during the middle of the fight.

    In other words, since he didn't know about the power of CS2, he underestimated Sasuke.

    I also believe that until Sasuke went CS2, Naruto wasn't being serious (partly because he didn't want to seriously injure or kill Sasuke) or he wouldn't have wasted so much chakra and would have relied more on strategy and not just on sheer power, from the beginning of the fight.

    IMO, all things being equal, Naruto + 1 tails = Sasuke + CS2 if both are being serious and have full chakra at the beginning of the fight.

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