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[B Twerly]

Well, since ive started system (windows) updates yesterday afternoon, im still going through new ones, but i think im getting to the bottom of all of them.
However, Red faction does now play faster, enough to be acceptable to play, and have been able to get GT4 menus to load fast, but the game itself is still TOOOO slow. I understand that my Vid. card only supports Dx10, but it seems my OS only supports DX3d 9, so im hoping after updates it will support 10, and give better results on GT4. i am gonna try GT3 (i need to check that playability site for GT3)
heres the logs for both RF and GT4 (dont know if you need both so ill post em)
its seeming hopeless to speed much of anything up with more complicated games, so am soon to give up untill i can upgrade my video card.
also with this new system, i have been able to play cut scenes
i quit RF out at main menu
and shutdown GT4 at the B license test course selection (where is slows way down)

Red Faction

PCSX2 0.9.8.r4600 - compiled on Apr 27 2011
Savestate version: 0x9a010000

Host Machine Init:
Operating System = Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 6001), 32-bit
Physical RAM = 2045 MB
CPU name = AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Vendor/Model = AuthenticAMD (stepping 02)
CPU speed = 2.612 ghz (2 logical threads)
x86PType = Standard OEM
x86Flags = 178bfbff 00002001
x86EFlags = ebd3fbff

x86 Features Detected:
MMX.. SSE.. SSE2.. SSE3
MMX2 .. 3DNOW .. 3DNOW2

Reserving memory for recompilers...

Loading plugins...
Binding GS : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\gsdx-sse2-r4600.dll
(GameDB) 9082 games on record (loaded in 819ms)
Windows 6.0.6001 (Service Pack 1 1.0)
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (8.17.12.8026)
Binding PAD : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\lilypad-r4600.dll
Binding SPU2 : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\spu2-x-r4600.dll
Binding CDVD : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\cdvdiso-r4600.dll
Binding USB : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\USBnull.dll
Binding FW : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\FWnull.dll
Binding DEV9 : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\DEV9null.dll
Plugins loaded successfully.

HotSwapping to new ISO src image!
HLE Notice: ELF does not have a path.


Initializing plugins...
Init GS
Windows 6.0.6001 (Service Pack 1 1.0)
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (8.17.12.8026)
Init PAD
Init SPU2
Init CDVD
Init USB
Init FW
Init DEV9
Plugins initialized successfully.

Opening plugins...
Opening GS
Opening PAD
Opening SPU2
Opening CDVD
isoFile open ok: C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\Red Faction\Red Faction[NTSC-U].mdf
Image type = DVD
Fileparts = 1
* CDVD Disk Open: DVD, Single layer or unknown:
* * Track 1: Data (Mode 1) (980784 sectors)
Opening USB
Opening FW
Opening DEV9
McdSlot 0: C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\memcards\Mcd001.ps2
McdSlot 1: C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\memcards\Mcd002.ps2
Plugins opened successfully.
EE/iR5900-32 Recompiler Reset
Bios Found: USA v01.60(07/02/2002) Console
BIOS rom1 module not found, skipping...
BIOS rom2 module not found, skipping...
BIOS erom module not found, skipping...
(UpdateVSyncRate) Mode Changed to NTSC.
(UpdateVSyncRate) FPS Limit Changed : 59.94 fps
(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SLUS_200.73;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 2.00
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC
ELF (cdrom0:\SLUS_200.73;1) Game CRC = 0x3EF4376C, EntryPoint = 0x00100008
(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SLUS_200.73;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 2.00
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC
Closing plugins...
Closing DEV9
Closing FW
Closing USB
Closing CDVD
Closing SPU2
Closing PAD
Closing GS
Plugins closed successfully.


GT4

PCSX2 0.9.8.r4600 - compiled on Apr 27 2011
Savestate version: 0x9a010000

Host Machine Init:
Operating System = Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition Service Pack 1 (build 6001), 32-bit
Physical RAM = 2045 MB
CPU name = AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Vendor/Model = AuthenticAMD (stepping 02)
CPU speed = 2.611 ghz (2 logical threads)
x86PType = Standard OEM
x86Flags = 178bfbff 00002001
x86EFlags = ebd3fbff

x86 Features Detected:
MMX.. SSE.. SSE2.. SSE3
MMX2 .. 3DNOW .. 3DNOW2

Reserving memory for recompilers...

Loading plugins...
Binding GS : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\gsdx-sse2-r4600.dll
Windows 6.0.6001 (Service Pack 1 1.0)
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (8.17.12.8026)
Binding PAD : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\lilypad-r4600.dll
Binding SPU2 : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\spu2-x-r4600.dll
Binding CDVD : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\cdvdiso-r4600.dll
Binding USB : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\USBnull.dll
Binding FW : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\FWnull.dll
Binding DEV9 : C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\plugins\DEV9null.dll
Plugins loaded successfully.

(GameDB) 9082 games on record (loaded in 441ms)
HotSwapping to new ISO src image!
HLE Notice: ELF does not have a path.


Initializing plugins...
Init GS
Windows 6.0.6001 (Service Pack 1 1.0)
NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS (8.17.12.8026)
Init PAD
Init SPU2
Init CDVD
Init USB
Init FW
Init DEV9
Plugins initialized successfully.

Opening plugins...
Opening GS
Opening PAD
Opening SPU2
Opening CDVD
isoFile open ok: C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\Gran Turismo 4\GT4BYDARTH93.ISO
Image type = DVD
Fileparts = 1
* CDVD Disk Open: DVD, Single layer or unknown:
* * Track 1: Data (Mode 1) (2284976 sectors)
Opening USB
Opening FW
Opening DEV9
McdSlot 0: C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\memcards\Mcd001.ps2
McdSlot 1: C:\Users\PC User\Downloads\pcsx2-0.9.8-r4600-binaries\memcards\Mcd002.ps2
Plugins opened successfully.
EE/iR5900-32 Recompiler Reset
Bios Found: USA v01.60(07/02/2002) Console
BIOS rom1 module not found, skipping...
BIOS rom2 module not found, skipping...
BIOS erom module not found, skipping...
(UpdateVSyncRate) Mode Changed to NTSC.
(UpdateVSyncRate) FPS Limit Changed : 59.94 fps
(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SCUS_973.28;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 1.01
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC
ELF (cdrom0:\SCUS_973.28;1) Game CRC = 0x33C6E35E, EntryPoint = 0x01000008
(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SCUS_973.28;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 1.01
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC
Closing plugins...
Closing DEV9
Closing FW
Closing USB
Closing CDVD
Closing SPU2
Closing PAD
Closing GS
Plugins closed successfully.

[meganova]

GT4 is too much for your current CPU to handle, it require more than what you have now.

Also, since you're using Dual Core, try running both games on latest the SVN with MTVU hack enabled,
and hope there will be some boosts on speed, but if its not, disable it, and set the Speedhacks to maximum.

[B Twerly]

Also, since you're using Dual Core, try running both games on latest the SVN with MTVU hack enabled,
and hope there will be some boosts on speed, but if its not, disable it, and set the Speedhacks to maximum.

WHATS svn AND MTVU? i dont see anything related to that in configs.

[meganova]

http://buildbot.orphis.net/pcsx2/

Download the latest SVN from here, then enable MTVU hack at the Speedhacks config.

[B Twerly]

Ok, this is helping RF a little bit, ill keep you updated on GT4, but IDT GT4 is gonna work without the new Vid Card

ok, this has dramatically sped up GT4, enough to be playable, thank you. it like x2 slow, but acceptable, if there anything else, maybe EMU plugin settings? i noticed there were many more options in this version of PCSX2, so i left them default, i guess i could mess with these to see if i get better results

[meganova]

Always and always make sure that Native resolution and Hardware mode was selected on the GSdx settings, just leave the rest to default.
While the Speedhacks setting set to maximum, or try using different Preset option, as well enabling Turbo mode (TAB button).

If nothing changes, then nothing you can do with it, since GT4, like I said before need a strong machine to run at stable fps.