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    Default P2P Users Unite!

    I thought this would be interesting to post.

    http://www.p2punite.net/

    Or for those to lazy to click the link.

    A general call to all P2P-users

    As of late the MPA's and RIAA's of the world are claiming that we are robbing them of their rightly earned money and are trying to find ways to legally put and end to it. The scare tactics have been fruitful, it would seem as they keep getting settlements out of court and probably make a profit out of it.

    This campaign of theirs, of course, isn't to target and eradicate filesharing as much as an attempt to control the market and where our money goes. Most of us feel that they should very well look into availability and affordable prices instead of claiming higher moral ground. The wealthiest nowadays decide what we shall listen to and watch, using staggering PR campaigns, and most releases are "format" productions, where talent and creativity comes second only to business concept and money.

    Ironically, dramatic theatres, opera houses and so on are desperately trying to find an audience among the "common" people, as it's seemed like high-brow, and here we are dealing with a situation where the production companies are working towards a dangerous inaccessibility for regular Joes. It is a natural thing that we want to be able to watch the movies and listen to the music, it has always been and always will be. Hence we turn to filesharing, and/or borrow CD's from our friends and so on.

    Availability and affordable prices.

    How many has bought a CD, watched a movie that has turned out to be less than satisfactory? How many has felt cheated of a night out at the movies, going there following posters and trailers for a big box-office release that turned out to be one of those "let's save the movie company a few bucks by fooling people into watching this dud during the first weekend"? How many get sick to their stomachs hearing about revenue losses and then be treated to a "Cribs" episode on MTV? The production companies has the audacity to say that we are using people's creativity and talent, without paying for it. Well - guess what - most P2P'ers actually DO BUY THE PRODUCTS THEY LIKE.

    We continue to see fantasy figures of what kind of revenues the production companies would have had, weren't it that the products were obtainable online. It's complete and utter nonsense, of course, as they seem to be oblivious to the highly human trait that they sport themselves, are shared by everybody: The Power Of Owning. Everybody wants to own things. Having a pirated copy NEVER exchanges the glory of a movie theatre or having a box bought and paid for, that prides your bookshelves.

    And to prove this, a general call out to all that has shared a file, downloaded something from online or think that the prices are outrageous in general, let's send a message to the powers that be.

    The last week in April - 24th up until and including 30th - let's show how much money we are spending on them in reality already by denying them it. Don't go to the movies, don't buy any entertainment products during that week.

    This is not to be confused as "go pirate everything you can find as the production companies are common robbers" but as a way to show that we are indeed supporting them already, so stop fighting us!

    Spread the word everywhere you can think of.

    Check this space for additional information!
    I think everyone should go pirate everything they can find.

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    I don't think this changes a thing in the daily life of many of the people here.
    You are the weenie.

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    I found your mother. D'yarr. An interesting bit of information. I have bought a bunch of games over the past year. Some I've bought multiple times. Mostly the ones I pirated were ones that I was always too broke to afford and didn't want to spend cash on because of mixed reviews. Of those I found about 2 I actually enjoyed. Expect me to buy them in the future. It's not so much of pirating for me, more of 'Try Before I Buy'.
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    [Pienne's post here]

    Seconded. Also:

    [15:51:25] (Skinner8) Old, Deach.
    [15:52:33] (Deach) So.
    [15:53:09] (Skinner8) You shouldn't really be pretending to support all that when you just want to get stuff for free, anyway.
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    I don't have that "Power of Owning" thing in me.
    I just don't care if it's burned/copied/hacked/cracked/stole, all I know is that maybe I would buy it if it was cheaper.

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    The site was lame, it wasn't even complete. It's nothing we don't know either, really.

    Things you should pirate and why:

    1)Shitty videogames that you would never want to buy(so just downloading it to try it out. Since you'd never buy it there's no problem, but why would you even want to try it out anyway?). Or download any game you wish, to try it before you buy(works best for online games like UT2003 or something).

    2)Computer software(all of it, fuck paying even $20 for a simple application you only plan to use once. 3D-development software costs thousands... and freeware/shareware apps don't always cut it.)

    3)Million-dollar blockbuster movies(those film companies already have cash coming out of their fucking asses, and actors get payed much more than what they deserve, so fuck that. Do go and watch/buy independent films that you like, support the poor talented actors/directors...)

    4)Extremely commercial music(don't dare waste a cent on a Britney Spears album. Download it, that hoe is holding up well. Do however buy albums by relatively unknown bands if you can find them in stores/online, it helps the band to make some more of their music and pay for rent, just not a multi-million dollar mansion.)

    5)Old videogames that are hard to find(because many people don't want to bid $100 on eBay for a fucking Atari 2600 game).

    6)TV shows(not that you shouldn't buy the DVD's when they're out. Just download, watch, and delete episodes that you've missed/didn't record or whatever. Same as TiVo or a VCR recording, so yeah... They're not suffering any bigger losses.).

    7)Porn(it's too expensive).

    8)Outrageously priced anime/TV show DVD's/etc.($35 for one DVD? No way, those distributors are greedy bastards and don't deserve a cent of your money).

    So yeah, my 2 cents.

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    this article reminded me of that south park episode where they downloaded illegal music and the cops took them to stars houses and they were living in HUGE houses and they were upset that because they didnt buy the album that artist couldnt buy a hot tub or something. yeah anyway i buy what i download if i like it, and it realy doesnt hurt them that bad considering all these rich assholes are living in like 18 bedroom houses. plus shit is to overpriced now a days and its rediculouse to buy a video game for $50-55 that will most likely have no replay value what so ever.

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    Dude, stealing is stealing. Now, I'm not trying to suggest that you stop. Hell, I'd be a hypocrite if I did. I'm just saying, there's really no way to make what you're doing less wrong. It doesn't matter if you think the shit costs too much, or that the artists are living like Kings off the money they make. It's wrong no matter how you try to justify it. You just gotta come to terms with the fact that you're a thief, and then get over it.

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    Oh i know im a thief and i dont realy give a shit I was just giving the reasons i do it

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    The thing is, those aren't really valid reasons. In fact, they just come across as something someone would come up with to make themselves feel less bad about what it is they're doing. Something they'd say to ease thier conscience.

    Anyway man, it's not like I really give a shit about what you do. In fact, what I said wasn't really addressed to you specifically. It was a kind of "open post", meant for those out there who try and convince themselves that what they're doing is right. I've seen so many people try to justify thier actions by saying stuff like that, and it always strikes me as silly. Your post just kinda helped me make my point. Sorry about that.
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    I'm the pirate king. I download stuff and don't think of the consequences. I have 2 parrots too. Arrr!

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    OK well thnx for clearing up that it wasnt directed at me. but i do know its wrong and i just realy dont feel bad about it, as i said in my above post i just dont give a shit. i do what i want and if someone doesnt like it they can kiss my ass. but yes i do see what you mean

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    What some people are arguing, though, Cyber, is that it shouldn't be stealing. This one guy in TPB's IRC channel argued that society's changed, and the movie (the discussion was about the movie industry, but it can of course be replaced with any other) industry's been left behind. We can get it all for free, and we've stopped paying conventionally. If these industries are destroyed by this, collapse because of the evil warez pirates, then that's what it deserves. If they can't change with society, it's time for them to go.

    Most evil warez people I talk to about this agree that they would pay for software, if they paid (as little as necessary) to be able to download it quickly from the manufacturer's site or some such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinner8
    Most evil warez people I talk to about this agree that they would pay for software, if they paid (as little as necessary) to be able to download it quickly from the manufacturer's site or some such.
    I wouldn't. Why pay when I can get things for free?

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    for once i agree with skinner about if they cant change with society then its time to go

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