a broke GC from ebay.Originally Posted by dkzerov
so whose gamecube was it?
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Cookie Thief
a broke GC from ebay.
Death before Dishonor
Hilarious.
Cookie Thief
Sad, cruel, unoriginal, and in extremely poor taste. It's not nearly a smart enough prank to be funny on its own merits, and I find nothing amusing in seeing a little kid burst into tears. A big thank you to the creator of the video for reinforcing in my mind just how much I despise arrogant, self-centered jerks with no sense of compassion, and how glad I am that the gigantic ego that I had as a kid caved in before it grew to that sort of level.
It reminds me of the video where a kid gets shown one of those shock flash animations, or a news story I read the other day about a fifteen year old girl who posted nude pictures of herself online. I can't help but feel depressed when I see some of the absolutely vile things some people will do for a little bit of internet recognition.
These people have such gigantic, bloated egos that each and every one of them is convinced that they're the most spectacular person in the world, when the truth of the matter is that they're quite the contrary. They're convinced that they deserve recognition, but they're talentless, painfully unfunny, and bland, and as a result, they don't get nearly enough attention on a day to day basis to feed their huge egos. Ordinarily, such malnourished egos would either begin to shrink (thank goodness), spurn some sort of radical attempt at taking the limelight in order to preserve themselves (killing spree, suicide attempt etc...), or turn the person in question to alcohol and drugs in an effort to maintain their delusions of grandeur.
However, the internet has brought a new option to the fray. The internet provides a completely equal podium for both the apt and the inept, and those who are too pathetic and talentless to glean the attention that they crave on a day to day basis can now sell their dignity, and the dignity of others, online. Because, let's face it, everyone knows that dignity is worth nothing next to a multitude of e-handjobs.
What bothers me is...do people honestly enjoy living lives like that? Is it actually fun to crave attention so much that you end up having to seek it out through incredibly depraved methods? Is it nice to know that, were everyone around you to up and disappear, you'd probably miss them more for the mirror into your beautiful, wonderful self that they provided than for the people they actually were? Is it fulfilling to have to be around others at all times, because without the attention of others to justify your existence, you're only really half a person?
Gosh. The more I think about it, the more I dislike people in general.
Cookie Thief
Yeah, thing is those people are probably persuaded they can't do better. Full of ego but so weak, they need to step on other people head to get a bit of recognition. If they can't find a "prey" they'll act like total jackasses.
Elite
missed out on ur childhood?Sad, cruel, unoriginal, and in extremely poor taste. It's not nearly a smart enough prank to be funny on its own merits, and I find nothing amusing in seeing a little kid burst into tears. A big thank you to the creator of the video for reinforcing in my mind just how much I despise arrogant, self-centered jerks with no sense of compassion, and how glad I am that the gigantic ego that I had as a kid caved in before it grew to that sort of level.
It reminds me of the video where a kid gets shown one of those shock flash animations, or a news story I read the other day about a fifteen year old girl who posted nude pictures of herself online. I can't help but feel depressed when I see some of the absolutely vile things some people will do for a little bit of internet recognition.
These people have such gigantic, bloated egos that each and every one of them is convinced that they're the most spectacular person in the world, when the truth of the matter is that they're quite the contrary. They're convinced that they deserve recognition, but they're talentless, painfully unfunny, and bland, and as a result, they don't get nearly enough attention on a day to day basis to feed their huge egos. Ordinarily, such malnourished egos would either begin to shrink (thank goodness), spurn some sort of radical attempt at taking the limelight in order to preserve themselves (killing spree, suicide attempt etc...), or turn the person in question to alcohol and drugs in an effort to maintain their delusions of grandeur.
However, the internet has brought a new option to the fray. The internet provides a completely equal podium for both the apt and the inept, and those who are too pathetic and talentless to glean the attention that they crave on a day to day basis can now sell their dignity, and the dignity of others, online. Because, let's face it, everyone knows that dignity is worth nothing next to a multitude of e-handjobs.
What bothers me is...do people honestly enjoy living lives like that? Is it actually fun to crave attention so much that you end up having to seek it out through incredibly depraved methods? Is it nice to know that, were everyone around you to up and disappear, you'd probably miss them more for the mirror into your beautiful, wonderful self that they provided than for the people they actually were? Is it fulfilling to have to be around others at all times, because without the attention of others to justify your existence, you're only really half a person?
Gosh. The more I think about it, the more I dislike people in general.
its kind of arrogant to assume that hes a jerk just because of that one thing that he did
you know absolutely nothing of their lives together except that of the 4:52 in the video
and yet you still believe you have the rite to judge others without knowing anything about them..... kind of pathetic IMO
Cookie Thief
And you're judging Harmony on a few words. Kind of pathetic IMHO.missed out on ur childhood?
its kind of arrogant to assume that hes a jerk just because of that one thing that he did
you know absolutely nothing of their lives together except that of the 4:52 in the video
and yet you still believe you have the rite to judge others without knowing anything about them..... kind of pathetic IMO
Elite
LOL wow.... true....And you're judging Harmony on a few words. Kind of pathetic IMHO.
well what he said still makes him seem pathetic.... not sayin he is.... just SEEMS like it
Cookie Thief
Nope. Why? Having trouble leaving behind yours?missed out on ur childhood?
How do you judge people if not by their words and actions? Let's think about things, shall we? Here's a guy who has gone to great lengths to play a rather mean spirited prank on someone that he's supposed to care about, going so far as to actually buy a broken console specifically for it.
"Fair enough," you might think. A little over the top, but I guess it might have seemed like a funny idea at the time. However, when his younger brother blatantly doesn't take it as a joke, and bursts into tears, he just laughs, and says he's being stupid. What's more, he films his little brother's reaction, and puts it online so that people will laugh and he'll get lots of nice attention and praise. He also edits the video with slow motion segments in an attempt to make his brother look even more ridiculous than he ordinarily might.
He does all this because his brother is, and I quote, a 'fanboy'.
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Please explain to me how this guy isn't a complete jackass? I'm sorry, but nobody with a shred of decency would do that to a family member for such a petty reason.
And yet that one video says so much about the sort of person that the guy is. If it was a video of child pornography, would you point to the guy that shot it and say, "Hey, I know he molested kids this one time, but I'm sure he's not such a bad guy really!"? No, I think it's much more likely that you'd say he was a paedophile.
I have no problem if you happened to find the video funny. But the fact is that, no matter how much you try and sugar-coat it, and no matter how funny you think it is, this is a guy being an absolute jackass in order to get attention. He might be a real saint on a day to day basis (somehow I highly doubt it, though), but I still stand by my judgement that this is an absolutely shitty thing to have done to someone in order to get a little bit of attention online, and that he's a huge jerk for having done it.
Actually, I judged him based on what I observed from his video. Firstly, the fact that he clearly has no guilt over upsetting a family member suggests 'selfish, egocentric jackass'. Secondly, if this was revenge for something his little brother had done (the guy mentions something about 'fucking up my computer' in the video, I think) then simply making him cry and scaring him would have been more than enough. The fact that he had to post it online screams 'attention seeker'.and yet you still believe you have the rite to judge others without knowing anything about them..... kind of pathetic IMO
Finally, the fact that he had to use such a crappy video in order to gain said attention says 'talentless nobody'. Look at the amount of incredible amateur instrumentalists on Youtube. Or think about the huge amount of artists, musicians, and comedians that have achieved success via the web. If you're actually talented, it doesn't take much to get noticed online. Only someone with no marketable talents of their own would resort to humiliating others for recognition.
As for being 'pathetic'... If 'pathetic' means actually giving a damn about the feelings of others, and not approving of the verbal, mental, or physical assault of innocent bystanders in order to build one's already obscenely large ego...then I'll happily be pathetic. It beats being an insensitive, self-centered clod by a million miles.
Yeah, it's a little bit sad, really. I was more or less the same in my early teens. But if people want recognition, then they should try earning it. Pick up a musical instrument, write a novel, or paint a picture. Too hard? Not good enough? Tough. Either try harder, or just resign yourself to not being outstanding, ditch your massive ego, and try enjoying life without continually seeking the praise of others.
Last edited by Harmony; 12th-February-2007 at 02:18.
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but i totally agree
Elite
technically i dont have to leave mine behind yet.... and i dont think i shall.... whats the point in having a childhood when ur just gonna "leave it behind" as you say
apparently you learned absolutely nothing from your childhood worth bringing with you to your adult life, thus you would rather "leave it behind"
childhood is about growing up and making dumb mistakes, and doing stupid sh*t to your siblings. just because you go to extreme lengths to mess with your brother doesnt make you a bad person, nor does it say that you have a huge ego
it simply means you're still a kid
just because he doesnt conform to your excessively high, and quite retarted standards doesnt make him a jackass
correct... you judge people based on their words and actions.... when you actually know them
you cant fairly judge someone based on a video on youtube
thats the whole point in a prank..... to humiliate the person the prank is being played upon
and if his brother would have took it as a joke, then the whole thing would have been a waste of time.
the very essence of the joke was that his brother did not know
and i believe he only called him stupid after telling him it wasnt really his, which him crying over it when it wasnt his actual gamecube.... kinda lame
the slow motion replay? to capitalize on the fact that his brother is in fact a huge crybaby.... so what? aww is it gonna hurt his feelings that 95,568 people that he most likely never knows and is never gonna meet laughed at him?
get over it.
apparently we have 2 different sets of family values.
siblings play pranks upon eachother growing up
...but at the end of the day they're still family, and would never let any1 else do the same stupid shit to them that they have just done.
quite the opposite: the video doesnt begin to show the sort of person he really is
4:52 is definitely not enough time to judge people in this case.
of course you make the argument about pedophiles, i agree, i would still say hes a pedophile no matter what.
the judgement on the video in question? hes a brother.
pedophilia doesnt even begin to compare to this situation
yes he may have hurt his brothers feelings temoporarily.... he'll get over it
most children that are molested are scarred for life
like i said... not really a comparison there
how do you know if he feels guilty?
you cant possibly know how he feels based on that video
so he doesnt express it... so wat? millions of people dont express their feelings on a daily basis.... doesnt make them egocentric
and so wat if he doesnt have talent?
hes not expecting to gain anything from the posting of that video, unlike the instrumentalist, and artists taht you find on youtube
people dont all post on youtube to get recognized for their talent.
ever think maybe... just maybe hes not looking for recognition?
Cookie Thief
You made a snarky comment towards me, so I thought I'd return the favour, that's all. I don't like to show unnecessary disrespect to those that I'm arguing with, and I have a great deal of distaste for ad hominem attacks, but if you want to fight dirty, I'll fight dirty. And I appear to have hit a nerve by insinuating that you're immature, judging by the extremely hostile tone of this latest response. Wee!
The point of childhood is to learn lessons from it so that when you eventually have to leave it behind, you're ready for the jump to adulthood. The point is to eventually leave behind such childish, self-indulgent behaviour, and to learn your place in the world, along with the places of others.
Children are born selfish. It's in their nature; from the moment you're born, you realise that crying and screaming will get you attention, and you care about nothing but your own needs and desires. You have to learn things like compassion and decency. And you should want to. I don't know about you, but by the time I reached six or seven, I just started to feel terrible every time I hurt someone else to make myself feel better. Somehow by that age it no longer seemed right to trample on others for the sake of my own ego. So much for having learned nothing from my childhood.
You also seem to be implying that you need to be actively experiencing something in order to be learning from it. Which is absolute bologne. Just because you've left behind childhood doesn't mean that the lessons it taught you don't stay with you. That'd be like saying that once you leave school, you forget everything you learned there.
Growing up? Yes. Making dumb mistakes? Maybe, depending on the sort of person that you are (I know I made a lot of dumb mistakes, but I know plenty of people who regret very little about their childhood). Doing stupid shit to your siblings? Since when is that a necessary part of childhood? That's like saying that baseball is a necessary part of childhood. Some kids might treat their siblings like crap while growing up, and some kids might play baseball growing up, but neither are what childhood is fundamentally about.
Again, children are born selfish. You're born with a huge ego, and in your first few years you automatically assume that the world revolves around you. Thing is, by the time you hit your teens, you're supposed to have learned otherwise. You're supposed to have learned that you're just another human being, like everyone else, and that such a status does not give you permission to shit all over others.
Answer me this, though. If we assume that this video is just one step on the road to adulthood, and that it represents part of growing up, then what lesson has this guy learned from his prank? In what way does this video demonstrate growing up? It seems to me like all that the guy has learned from this (assuming he's actually still a kid; he sounds fairly old, and his Youtube profile says '25') is that it's okay to humiliate others for the sake of comedy, and that it's cool to make others cry if it makes you laugh. Great lesson. I'm sure he'll turn into a wonderful member of society with values learned from experiences like that.
Expecting people to treat each other with respect is an excessively high standard? Strange, it seems fairly reasonable to me. Is it okay to punch someone in the face if it makes you laugh too?
More seriously, I agree wholeheartedly. The fact that he doesn't meet my standards doesn't make him a jackass. The fact that he acted like a jackass makes him a jackass.
Polobunny already said this, but so far you've called me arrogant, pathetic, and retarded despite not knowing me. Who's being judgemental?
To be honest, I think it's fine if you think I'm a jackass. If you've read what I have to say here, and you think that I'm an asshole based upon my views and my personality, then that's just peachy. You don't need to know someone extremely intimately to know whether or not you like them. All you need to do is observe their words and conduct.
And as I said, I'm not judging him based solely on the contents of the video itself. I'm judging him based on the fact that he humiliated his brother, filmed it, and put it online. Private pranks between siblings are one thing. Public humiliation on a global scale is quite another.
Y'see all this kind of confirms my suspicions that you're defending the guy because you're more or less just like him. My harshest words have been reserved for him, not for you, yet you seem to have taken them quite personally. Your words make it quite clear that you are just as devoid of compassion as the video's creator is.
You think a young boy crying is funny? Fine. My sense of humour is quite different to yours, but I'm not about to argue with you about something that is so dependant upon personal tastes. But if you can't at least recognise that posting a sibling's misery online for the whole world to point and laugh at is fundamentally wrong, then I will gladly argue with you. Such things simply are not right, on any level.
Think public humiliation isn't a bad thing? How about we dress you up in a tutu and fairy wings and publish your photo in a newspaper? Fact is, it isn't fun to be ridiculed, irrespective of whether or not you know the ones ridiculing you. Do you think that boy is going to smile if one day he runs across the video, and knows that he's been an object of ridicule for 95,000 people? Don't make me laugh.
So your 'values' are that you can treat your family like crap, and it's fine, but heaven forbid anyone else lay a finger on them? Uh...okay... I'm not even going to bother trying to debate that. But if that's how you treat your family, then I'd hate to see how you treat your friends. Or how you'll treat any potential brides-to-be.
Fine. We've established that (certain) brothers play pranks on each other. But people, irrespective of family ties, do not publically humiliate those that they're supposed to care about unless they're complete assholes. So the video very much does show the sort of person that he is, if only because it exists.
'he'll get over it'? How does that make it any more okay? Is it okay to kick someone in the balls to make yourself feel better? Because, let's face it, their balls will probably be okay given time.
I accept your point about the long term damages that paedophilia causes, but just because something horrible might lack long term repercussions does not make it okay.
Oh come on, surely this is too simple? If he felt guilty, he wouldn't have posted it online. He couldn't take back the prank once it had been carried out, but if he felt any kind of remorse, he wouldn't have posted it online.
And I disagree wholeheartedly. If not for attention, then why did he post it? Out of the good of his rotten little heart? To bring a smile to the day of inconsiderate bastards everywhere? If it was just a random act of impulse, then why did he go to the effort of editing it?
People do post on Youtube to be recognised, whether on a small scale or worldwide. Let me ask you this: do you think anyone just posts a video on Youtube and then disappears, leaving it to the internet populace? No. People will come and read what is being said about it, and what is being said about them. No matter how much you try and deny it, people are looking for attention, whether positive or negative.
This is a thousand times worse than an artist or a musician posting a piece of work online, though. In those cases, their work can be critiqued, and they can acquire valuable feedback from others. The attention they're seeking has a very valid purpose. This video has no merit of that sort, and has blatantly just been posted so that people will respond and say 'O LAWL U R TEH FUNNIES'.
Vulgar conduct and arrogance can be funny if they're combined with actual intelligence and wit (see 'The Best Page in the Universe'). But in this video I see nothing of the sort. All I see is a guy being a dick for no good reason, and posting it online in order to get some notice. And that's just depressing.
Last edited by Harmony; 12th-February-2007 at 11:22.
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Here's the thing, this kid may have very well deserved it. The line, "remember yesterday when you fucked with my computer?" shows this. If he did indeed fuck something up he wasn't supposed to, then he did deserve this. Other than that, the prank seemed to be an amazing waste of time. Why didn't he just punch the kid in the face? That is what my brothers and I did to each other. I was once dropkicked in the face for turning the radio station my brother was listening to. Does this mean that I hate my brothers? No, I still love them. Hell, I have a couple of friends that I used to get into big fights with all the time. They are some of the best friends I have ever had. So he broke a fake Gamecube and then told the kid three seconds later. Not a big deal at all, at least in my eyes.
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Deserved the prank itself, maybe, as I acknowledged in my posts. Deserved to be humiliated in front of 90,000 viewers? Heck no. Maybe if he had've broken his brother's computer and posted a video on Youtube of his brother crying about it with the comment, "LOLZ I BROKE MY BROS COMP. IM KEWL." 'Fucked up my computer' suggests that the kid maybe got a virus or something. Or killed his brother's installation of Windows. Big deal. Unless he took a hammer to it with the intent of destroying it, the older brother's reaction seems bang out of line.
Maybe I'm overly sentimental, but to me, such huge scale humiliation of a family member seems pretty unforgivable without good cause. My brothers and I broke one another's things all the time as kids. Was it annoying? Yup. Did I get them back for it when something of mine got broken? Yup. Would I have humiliated them in front of a huge amount of people for such petty reasons? Not a chance.
I don't know. There's sibling rivalry, and there's showing up others in order to make yourself look cool. To me this just kinda overstepped the mark.
Turn and Burn.
I really don't see anything wrong with what you are saying, it's just that I see it differently. He didn't do any actual physical harm, the kid is going to be a little embarassed, and in a few months it will be forgoten. We apparently look a humiliation differently. If I were this kid I, after about a day I would be able to laugh this off and say, "Ok, you got me." Maybe it is just the ice water in my veins that lets me see it this way though.
Last edited by Strongbad; 12th-February-2007 at 14:11.
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