Dear comrades, I write to you all here, from a ban evading account. Most of you will know me as Saril, and the truth of the matter is, I am a n00b. I dont have much time at these boards, and perhaps that is a good thing.
You see many of you have probably heard of the whole Mushindo / Skinner spat.
But the fact of the matter if you dont know the whole story. I cant say my side isn't bias or perfect, but I'm going to try and portray as much a balanced argument as posible.
You see there is this place in EmuParadise, and it is called Retro Paradise, now many of you have heard myths and rumors and such and so forth about this place.
Most of them are true.
RetroParadise is a quaint and exclusive club where members kick around the idea of letting you and in and take apart your character with snide comments before letting you in. Once you're in, your in. Here many things are discussed that "are better discussed here than infront of the slobbering masses."
I guess you can let that slide, I mean the mods and "acceptable" users need a place to let of steam.
But anyway, so here they are all posting photos of themselves because they all friends and cool and what not. And mushindo goes forth to post a photo of herself.
Now suffice to say this is a photo of a quite beautiful young lady.
Or is it? More on that later.
Various RP users then go forth to say, Oh noes that cant be her (this was quit e a well equiped and well bodied young lady we're tlaking about here, and to be honest...when have you seen a beautiful and inteligent woman on the internet? Cant be real the masses cried!
And so the inveitable witty and cynical reponse from Mushindo was awaited. It never came, what came was a rabbid and brutish reply that left many users wondering. Ineed the frustrated 15 year old man persona resurged.
And then not maby a few days later ( the exact measurment of time I cannot remember ) This post comes from our beloved Mushindo that her entire family had been K-lined when some drunk human being crashed into the front living room.
Now this chain of events and her inevitable dispearance got the questions rolling.
Now to my involvement.
Skinner and myself ( we are now both banned ) talk quite alot over MSN. Skinner voiced his doubts ( forgive me Skinner for betraying your confidence ) and I too began to have them.
Now between one day and another I sit down and search for a little information on my own. I talk to various people, of the people I will name are Mason and Agent Smith. I will admit I used certain tactics such as " oh noes look at me im fiddling with my IP" and other petty but functional ways of looking for information.
After turning up nothing I promptly forget the whole thing.
I then turn to my much loved friend and roommate Roberto AKA Darius. Now just to clarify Robert is not some 'elite hacker' nor are his friends. They are just people who like to use Google and know how to search for things, and many of them have Phycologist degrees. So they sit down and go through her posts, and all the PM's that are attained.
Again I commited no crime or bad faith. I only helped two people meet eachother.
So they sit down and determine that through the wonders of modern phyciatry techniques that mushindo is the type of your boy who creates a story, writes it down and then procedes to utilize said story.
Things like inconsistancies in mentionings of PMS, and how the behaviour and emotive patters of Mushindo are that of a man, more so the RP posts than General Forum posts.
These are all wonderful and informing and perfect. It is later decided that Mushindo is indeed a man. And Skinner moves forward to declare war upon our deer Mushindo.
And the fanboys unite, they come forward and defend her, selflessly throwing themsleves upon Skinner's skilled flames.
All the while I sit back and watch the war that suposedly I am responsible for.
Subsequent comversations with Mushindo lead me to belive that maby they were wrong. But the way Mushindo has everyone wound around her finger...what am I to think?
And so the war continues and Skinner eventually gives up and apologises.
All the while Mushindo preiodicly whips out the "I have nothing to prove so I will not post the news paper article of the terrible tradgedy." And that is Mushindo's perogative no?
So I continue on to post without a worry, little did I know the tides were changing aginst me. All my friends go to sleep and than even Mushindo logs off. Everyone settles down for a nice relaxing sleep.
Suddenly I'm present with the "Banned" Page.
All moderators are suddely away.
All normal users dont answer, noone wants to talk, everyone is suddenly busy.
I swallow timidly.
This does not look good.
The anger builds. Why me?
I give in and send a mad flurry of messages to Mason and we engauge in what I would like to refer to as 'social intercourse' over MSN:
I have censored such offensive words such a F- S- and C- if they have escaped my abilities I am sorry.
Mason says:
You've been banned.
Saril says:
Why?
Mason says:
For hacking into Mushindo's account.
Saril says:
I never did such a thing to insinuate that is a lie and untru
Mason says:
I have various accounts saying you did.
Saril says:
ANy P R O O F?
Mason says:
Yes.
Saril says:
Apart from word of mouth of a few mushindo fan boys
Saril says:
a REAL IP address?
Mason says:
No, I don't have any hard evidence.
Mason says:
And you know why that is.
Saril says:
Nope, but i;d like to hear it
Saril says:
Since your whiping out bans like a facist
Mason says:
Haha.
Mason says:
By your own admission you hacked into her account.
Saril says:
Just words
Saril says:
If there is no proof then there is no proof
Mason says:
Yes, I'm fairly sure you were lying about it to be truthful.
Mason says:
But you said you did, so that's what I'll have to go with.
Saril says:
Ha, so ur in bed with mushindo? I shouldve seen this bulls* heading my way
Mason says:
Mushindo is a mod. The administration protects it's own.
Saril says:
Mushindo is a liar for all I care
Mason says:
That doesn't really matter at all.
Saril says:
Seems like it matters to you
Mason says:
How so?
Saril says:
Your whipping out basless bans
Mason says:
They aren't baseless.
Saril says:
Says you?
Mason says:
Says me.
Saril says:
Fascist
Mason says:
Fair enough.
Saril says:
Pointless revenge in my eyes
Mason says:
It's not revenge. It's called "that behavior isn't suitable for our boards"
Mason says:
nor anyone elses boards for that matte.r
Saril says:
I never did anything more than facilitate a union between two people in order to collect data
Saril says:
At no point was mushindo's account tampered with or her IP toyed with
Saril says:
Persay I am faultless
Mason says:
Regardless, you're still banned.
Saril says:
Duration?
Mason says:
2 week minimum.
Saril says:
Your such a stupid f*, I was mistaken to place trust in you, and your two faced also, considering you didnt push back Skinner during his crusade
Mason says:
I didn't know he was attempting to hack into people's accounts.
Saril says:
NO ONE HACKED ANYONES ACCOUNT YOU MORON
Saril says:
Is there any evidence more than words to push your buttons?
Mason says:
No. Just your words.
Mason says:
And the words of others.
Saril says:
Yeah like Agent Smith, so we lie to a few people to stir up info, is this a tradgedy?
Mason says:
No, but you shouldn't be surprised of the consequences.
Saril says:
I'm annoyed that you'd pull some back handed move
Saril says:
Its BS
Mason says:
It should've been fairly obvious to you what would happen.
Saril says:
More so comming from someone suposedly level headed like your self
Saril says:
Did skinner get banned?
Saril says:
No
Mason says:
You think we don't care if people claim their hacking into other people's accounts?
Mason says:
Skinner did get banned.
Mason says:
For just as long as you.
Mason says:
they're*
Saril says:
This was a unilateral move?
Mason says:
No, as with most things of this nature I consult others before making decisions.
Saril says:
So this is mushindo pay back?
Mason says:
It wasn't her idea.
Saril says:
Doubt she objected
Mason says:
Can you blame her?
Saril says:
And why should she, if she has everyone eating out of the palm of her hand
Saril says:
Yes, since she has a better understand of the situation
Saril says:
More than some ignoramous like yourself
Mason says:
Whatever. Unless you want to have a civil conversation we're done here.
Saril says:
I am being civil
Saril says:
Your the one who is being a nazi
Saril says:
There should atleast be some fairness in the process, noone was affected
Mason says:
It is fair. There's no concrete evidence, so it's not permanent.
Saril says:
I will be back, and I swear to god I will have retribution
Mason says:
Right then.
Saril says:
And you you two faced son of a bitch, you are first
Mason says:
How exactly am I twofaced? I'm curious.
Saril says:
You quietly support skinner in such PM's stating that he's fine unless no direct attacks
Saril says:
And then using no bases at all ban me
Saril says:
And ban Skinner
Saril says:
* no direct attacks continue
Saril says:
Which none did
Mason says:
No I didn't. I flat out told him to stop his assault on mushindo's reputation.
Saril says:
Indeed the PM's that were interchanged were mild
Saril says:
I read the bloody PM, and in either case of interpretation he DID
Saril says:
He went as far as to apologise
Mason says:
That doesn't excuse his behavior.
Saril says:
We are now banned from questioning our peers?
Saril says:
s* mason, whats next?
Mason says:
You can question all you like when you get back.
Saril says:
Thats a laught
Saril says:
Tell me?
Mason says:
Seriously, what would you say otherwise?
Saril says:
Can I expect a 4 month ban to follow after I even LOOK funny at maison
Saril says:
*mushindo
Mason says:
This would have happened if it were any other mod.
Saril says:
But it happened with YOU
Saril says:
YOU used tid bits of false information
Saril says:
To then pull a wierd ban
Saril says:
In which case I never said or posted anything ON the f*ing forums either
Mason says:
It wasn't false information.
Mason says:
People's accounts of events are valid.
Saril says:
Oh?
Saril says:
If you read a PM from mushindo
Saril says:
EVEN she stipulated
Saril says:
That we didnt even determine what state she lived in
Saril says:
There was no violation of privacy
Mason says:
Does that matter at all? No.
Saril says:
A few joked conversations between me and you over IP's and passwords are mere conjecture
Saril says:
A non event at most
Saril says:
If Agent Smith voiced anything, the fact is he's a mushindo fan boy and is a liar at that
Saril says:
And a techno n00b
Saril says:
And if mushindo ever posted a AIM chat log, I'll f*ing deny it since I have the undoctored chain of events here
Mason says:
You can deny it all you wish. However I have multiple people's words against yours.
Mason says:
As of it no one has come to your aid.
Saril says:
No s* you bastards
Mason says:
yet*
Saril says:
You waited till everyone who could defend me went to sleep
Mason says:
They can talk to me when they wake up.
Saril says:
Ha, and I wont be online to alert them
Saril says:
Your nothing better than mexican police
Mason says:
Okay, what're their nicks? I'll talk with them myself.
Saril says:
Oh yes I can imagine a real fair and poisining chat between you and them
Saril says:
f*, I imagine you'd 'convince' them onsome point
Mason says:
Well, if you don't tell me who it is then I'm going to assume that there isn't anyone.
Saril says:
Yeah beat me down with your rhetoric
Mason says:
I'm just being straight with you.
Saril says:
Bulls*
Saril says:
Its the famous political run around
Saril says:
I mean
Saril says:
f* you lot, its bloody obvious how easy the tides are manipulated by this one man who runs guilt trips with the lot of you
Saril says:
And god forbid if someone questions the mods,
Mason says:
I'm asking you directly for these people you speak of.
Mason says:
Otherwise, you're not producing anyone to question me.
Saril says:
And I'm bloody not going to tell you out of fear that you'll poison them OR ban them too
Mason says:
which isn't my fault at all.
Saril says:
It is damn well the truth
Saril says:
And your fault, you sit there, and play damned if does and damned if doesnt
Mason says:
No, if that were true I'd just set you on block right now and go about my way.
Saril says:
No you cant, because the moment you do that, it would set anyone I show this log to against you
Saril says:
By staying on you appear the nice and calm and balanced mod that you portrayed
Saril says:
The fact is your more of a fan boy the even Smith
Saril says:
And damned if I'm able to do anything about it asides from request my ISP to re integrate me to be able to view EP
Mason says:
Well since you're not doing anything to defend yourself that makes things a little hard.
Saril says:
How CAN I YOU IDIOT??! Its not like I can put out a SOS
Saril says:
I mean, firstly I'm banned
Saril says:
Secondly everyone is asleep
Saril says:
I mean what do you want from me
?
Mason says:
I just want their names so I can talk with them.
Saril says:
Aye and you can be bloody sure you aren't getting any names, lest something terrible happen while IM asleep
Mason says:
Fair enough, that's your choice.
Saril says:
f* knows you guyz seem good at it
Mason says:
Don't be surprised that the ban won't be removed then.
Saril says:
Do you think I'm that bloody naive to think that ANYTHING anyone says will make a diffence?
Saril says:
God knows youll ban anyone who mentions a whif of support for me or Skinner
Saril says:
Bastard
Saril says:
That or disregard it with whatever logic your using to enforce MY ban
Saril says:
Bassless information my ass
Saril says:
Revenge!
Saril says:
Why dont you damn well come out and just admit it ,
Saril says:
f* anyone over who stands in the way of you lot
Mason says:
Saril, I'll just be blunt. If you keep going down the road you're going the ban won't be removed after two weeks.
Saril says:
I DONT EXPECT IT TO BE REMOVED
Saril says:
You;ll find some blessed information to extend the bastard
Mason says:
I doubt it, other than the way you're speaking to me now.
Saril says:
You have it coming god knows
Mason says:
I'm being infinitely patient with you.
Saril says:
Aye and laughin your ass of probably
Mason says:
Hardly.
Saril says:
HA!
Saril says:
Dont make me laugh, your evidence is a joke
Saril says:
Your comments "The administration protect its own" Make that fact blatantly clear