The Soulja Boy Poop Out of Mouth Out - Atari Zombie Inside (or maybe not)

[Grouch]

Used or APU would be my suggestion. GPUs are disastrously bad right now. I could make money on a GPU I bought years ago .

bad design or just poor quality?

What resolution?

720p don't need to run at 1080p or 4k or wtf ever new thing is out.

[Slacker Magician]

bad design or just poor quality?

720p don't need to run at 1080p or 4k or wtf ever new thing is out.

Prices, HDD prices are also retarded right now.

[Slacker Magician]

For example:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,1.html

The MSRP for that card is ridiculous and the only hope of even getting that lame price is if you preorder something and the store honors it.

[Grouch]

Prices, HDD prices are also retarded right now.

oh prices. yeah I've been hearing about gfx card pricing being horrible over the last few years but didn't know about hdd prices going up.

[Slacker Magician]

Mining crap ruins everything .

[Slacker Magician]

Looks like AMD's current gen. of APUs can handle FO4 alright enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZeaTugvxtA

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...-5600g/20.html

You could also go for a used "gaming" laptop. Sometimes you can get a pretty decent deal on laptops but you need to be absolutely certain on the specs because the product lines are a mess. A prebuilt with a decent configuration could also work (though the usual is going to suck with that, PSU, case, HDD/SSD).

[Grouch]

Looks like AMD's current gen. of APUs can handle FO4 alright enough:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZeaTugvxtA

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...-5600g/20.html

You could also go for a used "gaming" laptop. Sometimes you can get a pretty decent deal on laptops but you need to be absolutely certain on the specs because the product lines are a mess. A prebuilt with a decent configuration could also work (though the usual is going to suck with that, PSU, case, HDD/SSD).

I don't think I want to go with another laptop. I was thinking a pre-built anyway but I've been out of it for a long time now so I don't know what to look for or what kind of price point to start saving for.

[Slacker Magician]

Around $1k - $1.2k.

[Slacker Magician]

Doing it yourself could be done for a bit less (especially if you can avoid tax online) but you can actually get a discrete GPU with a prebuilt.

[Grouch]

Around $1k - $1.2k.

ouch that'd take a long time to save for.

Doing it yourself could be done for a bit less (especially if you can avoid tax online) but you can actually get a discrete GPU with a prebuilt.

not for several years now assholes

[Slacker Magician]

I think you could work something out at or around $700 if you do it yourself. You could do closer to $600 if you cut down on memory.

[Slacker Magician]

If you got a good deal on a PSU you could maybe drag it under $600.

[Grouch]

I think you could work something out at or around $700 if you do it yourself. You could do closer to $600 if you cut down on memory.

that sounds more reasonable.
what do you think of buying used?

[Slacker Magician]

Depends on what you can get at what price.

I'm figuring something like this for price breakdown:
CPU: $260
Motherboard: $110
RAM: $70
PSU: $80
SSD/HDD : $50
Case: $60

It could swing up or down depending on config.

[Grouch]

did a little looking at newegg on prebuilts. I looked at ryzen 7 and intel I7 the ryzen was much more than an intel by $200-$300. I also looked at some refurbs they're running $175 at the cheapest I didn't look at ryzen 9's or I9's.
it gives me a basic idea of prices on pre-builts.