PS2 Iso Audio Out Of Sync

Hi guys

My PS2 is softmodded. I've burnt a successful iso to try out, it works fine (Bully) then I've wasted 5 dvds on burning Beyond Good & Evil the audio is out of sync and I do not know how to correct this issue.

When I start with the cutscenes it is fine then when I get to actually play the audio keeps repeating itself and stays like that blocking out the music and other characters talking and also during the next cutscenes. Then the game pauses entirely and I have to reset the ps2.

I am using Verbatim dvd +r I am also using imgburn. I tried various speeds with these dvds to no effect.

Any help with this and permanent settings to use when burning ps2 iso's?

Thanks!

you can't clone any psx - ps2 games don't know why looks like locked or protected but able to save and play them on .isos

I got them from here I'm testing a few more games downloading them now.

After trying out 2 more different games with successful results. I've come to the conclusion that both BG&E versions are bad rips but I can't seem to understand why the audio sync is off and also why the game cuts to a white screen. Then I have to reset the ps2.

I've tried both USA and EU versions and also got the game from another source and the same result occurred. I tried it via usb and funnily enough same thing again.

Can someone please test this for me via usb or over the network, I'd rather no one wastes a dvd on it. :-(

Beyond Good & Evil I take it we are talking about

I can take a look when I get the time to do so and make sure the disc images are accurate and the results with ESR

I may be able to fix issues though depending on how they are caused

P.S. not every game works with ESR though anyway

One of the reasons I made a compat list for it, though I already have a report of it working so far, at least the NTSC version.... not my test results though

Saying that I have fixed lag in at least one game on the PS2 via ESR that was a Jap game that was translated that would lag during FMV's but I managed to fix that one

EDIT: The NTSC copy is a perfect rip and matches the crc info provided by redump

I noticed the game is only 2GB so some room for improving readability

Something I can look at when I have more time, I have yet to burn this mind :P I own this on my PS3 anyway in HD :P

Yes Zorlon it is :-(

I tried both versions on a couple of dvds the result is the same, when you start playing immediately Jayde keeps making fighting sounds which then drown out the background music and then for the cutscenes drown out the audio this goes on until you get out of the cave your in and the army go away she lies down then the screen goes white and stays there :-(

You lucky guy! :-p

I used to read a ps2 mag back in the day and this scored 90% or more I think so I know its going to be epic.

Is the remaster worth it? The one thing that puts me off buying a ps3 is the remasters as I look on youtube and I sometimes can't tell if its worth buying compared to the ps2 version of the games :thot:

Also the newer models can't be softmodded ;-)

Are you burning at 4x?

Also what brand of media are you using? :thot:

Just trying to help out :P

4x 2x I've done all the speeds Warrior :-(

I'm using verbatim dvd +r

I don't think its the dvds I've burned more games before and after which work fine.

I even tried booting it up via usb and still the same problem.

That's strange, you burned right and used good media, well from my understanding verbatim is not as good as it used to be but I'm not sure what batch # the bad ones have.

That is a pretty weird situation, wish I could of helped further but it may be a issue with the PS2 itself from the sound of it if its even doing it to a game running through the USB.

Wait for me to actually test the thing it is not uncommon for games to lag when burned, but there are way to improve the reading

There are not that many game that are effected in this way but I can think of a few that are.

Via USB though there are major speed issues as it's only USB 1.1 with a max speed of 12 Mbit/s the DVD drive is much faster at apx 42 Mbit/s

P.S. the PS3 is worth it for PS3 games, remasters and other HD versions I have gotten including Beyond Good and Evil I got as part of my PS+ subscription as it happens never played it.

But no one goes to buy a PS3 especially to play PS2 re-releases for the PS3 that just does not make sense.

I'm using ultra iso To burn my games in 4x speed, and it's work just fine on all of them.

I recommend using it :)

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I'm using ultra iso To burn my games in 4x speed, and it's work just fine on all of them.

I recommend using it :)

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Have you even burned the game in question?

I have no doubts the burn is perfect and not the issue.

I also have this issue when loading beyond goog and evil. From ESR disc i get the sound problem, the attack noises repeat begin to loop and create crazy just noise. Using OPL to load the game from SMB i also get the audio problem but the game doesn't freeze at the same place as the disc. This issue happens during gameplay. It is strange repeating of the same noise. I love this game so I did play around with it. I assumed that game inparticular just had problems. I manage to play it using OPL/SMB method with subtitles on and sound turned down.

I think its a bad rip as other games work perfect when patched I've tried other sources from the web and I have the same problem I'm assuming they're all just the same iso on different sites but I've also tried the PAL version and the same problem occurs its strange that they're both bad rips :-s

Thanks Zorlon what methods would improve the speed? I know ;P it just seems all the game developers have milked the well with the remasters I'm sure there are top notch games on the PS3 I've flicked through articles where Uncharted, Mass Effect and a couple others are always mentioned besides the COD's and GTA's.

Sad to hear that b2p1mp I can't imagine how you played it without audio :-( It looks like a classic to play!

Hopefully Zorlon can see what the issue is and recommend something for both of us :D

This may be the same issue that the PS2 Wolfenstien game had had but that was not fixable though :/ I have this burned now so can test it anyway

EDIT

P.S. it is a perfect rip it's 1:1 copy

If what I have in mind fixes it I will let you guys know how I done it

A shame this was not mentioned in the compat list I think it is important to include as much info as possible

EDIT...

P.S. when does it start to lag???

So far it works great for me so if this is just read issues then yup that is very fixable ;)

It is simple but I will prepare and test a second copy before posting how to and create a mini guide for you and a not so mini guide to do other games the same way

Played to the first save point via MDISK, let me know if it lags before that point or only after as I may not of tested enough

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I forgot to mention I have the book type set to DVD-ROM for DVD+R discs, something that can be done in ImgBurn, burn speed should be set to the lowest your burner can burn at, so only set that to 4x if 4x is the slowest for DVD burning for me that is 2.4x to be safe just set imgburn to 1x, it will auto correct the speed anyway

If you are not sure what make your drive is just test all of them while you have a blank DVD+R inserted, the ones that don't work should come up with an error anyway as soon as you try and set the Change For: drop down box that should just be set to the actual disc type, e.g. set to Drive (For DVD+R/+R DL Media), once you find the one that works for your hardware you can then change the New Setting: drop down box to DVD-ROM or back to it's original state if you like.

Soon as you start playing pressing the x button the sound she makes goes out of control. It should take 10 minutes for you to see itand hear it, which then goes through to the cutscenes then you fight a boss then it goes to cutscenes before finally going to a white screen afterwards for me anyway

Hmm ok try the burning method I outlined in my previous post or just wait for me, While I make an improved disc image and a guide to do this yourself as well as a small script to do it for you, at least for this one game :P

P.S. I was using the NTSC copy of the game by the way Beyond Good & Evil (USA) (En,Fr,Es) so the guide and script is just for that version

That's great news!

I think I'll wait for your improved disc version I've blown 5 dvds on it :D

So to be on the safe side possible burn all games at the lowest burn speed then?

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That's great news!

I think I'll wait for your improved disc version I've blown 5 dvds on it :D

So to be on the safe side possible burn all games at the lowest burn speed then?

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that's the best way :)

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That's great news!

I think I'll wait for your improved disc version I've blown 5 dvds on it :D

So to be on the safe side possible burn all games at the lowest burn speed then?

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Not only that but set the book type to DVD-ROM, it's the small icon on the lower right of imgburn, it looks like an open book, that can only be set when a blank DVD+R is inserted though

You just get better burn results from a slower burn this applies to both CD and DVD burning and any other optical drive media


EDIT:- Built my modded version iml so just making an iso now and will be burn testing it, providing it does not have any file location checks all should be fine

I may be a short while it is now a full DVD5 image.

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Originally Posted by Zorlon

Not only that but set the book type to DVD-ROM, it's the small icon on the lower right of imgburn, it looks like an open book, that can only be set when a blank DVD+R is inserted though

You just get better burn results from a slower burn this applies to both CD and DVD burning and any other optical drive media


EDIT:- Built my modded version iml so just making an iso now and will be burn testing it, providing it does not have any file location checks all should be fine

I may be a short while it is now a full DVD5 image.

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You are a legend Zorlon!!! :zorlon:

Here is the kit

What you do is extract the contents of the kit
Inside the kit is a folder called BGE, inside that there is a single file 0.0
Other files included are
BGE.iml
BGE.ims
iml2iso.exe

What you do next is extract the disc image to the BGE folder that should consist of
Another BGE folder with all of it's files 12 in total
SLUS_207.63
SYSTEM.CNF

so the final contents should be
BGE.iml
BGE.ims
iml2iso.exe
BGE\0.0
BGE\SLUS_207.63
BGE\SYSTEM.CNF
BGE\BGE\IOPCD_CD.IRX
BGE\BGE\IOPCD_CF.IRX
BGE\BGE\IOPCD_CR.IRX
BGE\BGE\IOPRP271.IMG
BGE\BGE\JADE.SPE
BGE\BGE\LIBSD.IRX
BGE\BGE\MCMAN.IRX
BGE\BGE\MCSERV.IRX
BGE\BGE\PADMAN.IRX
BGE\BGE\PS2.ICO
BGE\BGE\SIO2MAN.IRX
BGE\BGE\SALLY.BF

Finally just run iml2iso

When the program pops up hit ... to the right of IML File and choose the BGE.iml file
Then hit Start
Wait for it to fully complete, then hit Exit

You should have a new BGE.iso file with the file size of 4.35 GB (4,677,791,744 bytes)

Make sure to ESR patch it




To extract the disc image if it is before it was patched you can just use 7-zip, if after patching 7-zip will not work, but you can always use ISObuster instead or try un-patching it with ESR patcher

The kit is attached :D


OK to sum up what I done

It's simple I just created a huge dummy file to push all the data to the outer edge of the disc

Optical data has smoother reading on the serface of the disc towards the outter edge to what it has on the inner serface of the disc

I may try this in a bit. I beat Beyond Good and Evil on the PC when it first came out. I enjoyed it. I was happy to see it on PS2. I would love it to work perfect.

Too tired to up a kit/tutorial to make your own just yet but if anyone is interested I can do a tuto for that, though it may seem a little more complicated once typed out :P but I will keep it as simple as possible

This is not problematic game for everyone though it seems, it worked fine for me as it happens, but there are some games that have reading issues from burned media that this can fix providing there is space to add a fix like this to it

The outline issue is with the PS2 laser but these vary from console to console even with the same model number when first taken out of the retail box, just Sony using cheapo parts, was bad with the PSX/PSone and PS2, not so sure about the PS3 or PS4 only use retail discs in those, including films.

I am grateful for what you've done Zorlon.

I've done everything you've jotted down to a tee and still the problem occurs when you play as Jayde and your fighting the monsters her grunting noise loops over and overpowers all other game audio then as soon as she leaves the cave and lies down the screen goes white and stays like that.

I've got Bully, Fahrenheit, The Sims Bustin' Out and Kingdom Hearts from here they work flawlessly.

Is this a ps2 problem then? Can I send videos on here to show you what I mean?

I can't believe its not working after all you've done aswell Zorlon :(

A video might be helpful yes

If what I done took no effect at all I am unsure what the issue could be I took the ISO from our server on the main site

I also had no issues with the original iso either mind

My console is a PAL machine even though I grabbed the NTSC version
Model No. SCPH-700003
Tested both original copy and the modded copy, using ESR r9b both the basic version and the version that gives user defined options


A quick google showed that another user had problems with this game with sound issues but using a PS2 model SCPH-700004 so it may be added protection of something to that version of the PS2 on the same page another PAL user played this fine though the PS2 model was not mentioned except it being the older bulky version

My console version is SCPH-75003 PAL

I'm running FMCB v1.94 ESR beta r9b I haven't changed it from the one that comes with v1.94

Is there anyway of uploading a video or does it have to be done from Youtube, Dailymotion etc?

Youtube would be fine

We don't have support for uploading large files directly

I suspect it is just the version of the PS2 rather than anything to do with the actual laser as what I done would of at least improved the reading, rather than do nothing at all.


My version is a V12 700003 the first slim model
Yours is a V14 750003 this did have a few changes over the V12

http://bootleg.sksapps.com/tutorials...sion/ps2id.htm has a nice list

On further reading this glitch with the sound is directl;y related to the version of PS2 that takes effect on version 14 and up over

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/56164...-evil/58005893 has more information

If you happen to have an Xbox original though or plan to get one it works great on that or even the GC version ran via a Wii both systems can be soft modded, the Wii being the easiest console then Xbox, PS2 is a bit harder to mod

From what I have read though there is very little I can do to fix this as it's a hardware issue not a software issue, hate Sony for this one, not the rip as the original will do the same.

Thank you for your time, effort and help Zorlon!

Atleast I know now its just a compatibility issue rather than anything else.

Hopefully this issue won't crop up with too many other games.

I guess I'll chalk it up to experience and throw all but one dvd away incase I'm ever in possession of another ps2 model :D

Yeah out of both of them which do you recommend I've got a wii at home but I do like the xbox I don't know if its worth buying and also getting the component cables for it I read it's pretty rare to find genuine ones.

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Thank you for your time, effort and help Zorlon!

Atleast I know now its just a compatibility issue rather than anything else.

Hopefully this issue won't crop up with too many other games.

I guess I'll chalk it up to experience and throw all but one dvd away incase I'm ever in possession of another ps2 model :D

Yeah out of both of them which do you recommend I've got a wii at home but I do like the xbox I don't know if its worth buying and also getting the component cables for it I read it's pretty rare to find genuine ones.

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I was the same for a long time for the Xbox but I got one anyway when I seen just how much it could do homebrew wise like emulators ect running most stuff from PSX and older with enhancements (the component cables are maybe not worth buying at all if you cant find the official adapter for a reasonable price) I also got a couple of PSX to Xbox controller converters as I really did not like the xbox controllers, there are some very good games for the xbox though and not even talking about halo as I was never a fan of those myself

Of the Xbox vs the Wii the Xbox is more powerful and has more for it in the way of homebrew but the Wii still has a lot of homebrew anyway

Anyway the Wii is very easy to mod anyway and you already have one :D you only need one program to do the basics then another install of a GC mod, the best Wii would have GC ports on it but even if you don't it is still possible to play GC games with a Wii-mote and nun chuck or classic pad with emulated memcard

I will post more info when I get time, would be even better to ask in the Nintendo section just give me some detail about your Wii while you wait for me to pull the info required but do wait for me I use a few better options than is generally known and is a safer method overall.

EDIT with the Wii though I have not tested it you can even use a USB pad, even a PSX/PS2 to USB converter that I will test soon as well as the game

Thanks for the information Zorlon :D

Its an old wii it has gc ports, the thing is though I bought my mum the wii fit for it and now its become her console lulz!

When I get a chance I'll probably go for an xbox ;)

You've done more than enough thank you again Zorlon, I'll stick to the ps2 for now just downloaded Silent Hill 2: Director's Cut and Ico :D

I did test the GC version on my Wii and it seems to be working perfect

I already know the xbox version works great

I also tested a PSone pad via a USB converter (I could of use a PS2 pad also if I wanted) and set USB HID on and even that worked fine, though SELECT seemed to crash it (it's a button that GC pads don't have though), though still best with a GC pad anyway then at least the on screen button prompts are correct for the pad, I don't mind the GC pads though they have a nice layout to them, very close to the 360 pads (the major reason I can't stand the original Xbox pads is for the black and white buttons that are used in game are not so easy to get to, the only other pads I hated that much are the N64 pads for similar reasons)

I tried setting up my ps2 and network via opl loader I didn't get anywhere far pc's old has no internet connection and some of the apps I was using like usbutil needed it to work in the end I've given up on trying to play it through my pc for now.

I also stumbled across a compatibility list where it says in opl through network and usb audio issues occur.

Oh well thanks for everything Zorlon!

I'll look into trying to get the wii off my mum haha!

I think I am using the ntsc version from here. my PS2 is SCPH-77001. I didn't think it was a laser issue because the problem also occured when loading the game from my PC with SMB. I will re-grab the ntsc version and do some testing. I really do want to play this game. I may just install the PC version on a laptop that I recently acquired. This is the only game that this problem occurs in. On my PS2 it isn't exactly lag that occurs. It is a looped noise that overlaps itself over and over till its garbled noise. I always thought it was a bad rip that caused it.... but you may be correct about certain model PS2 causing it.

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I think I am using the ntsc version from here. my PS2 is SCPH-77001. I didn't think it was a laser issue because the problem also occured when loading the game from my PC with SMB. I will re-grab the ntsc version and do some testing. I really do want to play this game. I may just install the PC version on a laptop that I recently acquired. This is the only game that this problem occurs in. On my PS2 it isn't exactly lag that occurs. It is a looped noise that overlaps itself over and over till its garbled noise. I always thought it was a bad rip that caused it.... but you may be correct about certain model PS2 causing it.

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The same applies to the original disc on the later revisions of the PS2 as reported at several sources when I was digging round on this subject.

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The same applies to the original disc on the later revisions of the PS2 as reported at several sources when I was digging round on this subject.

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Good to know. I recently got a Windows 7 laptop that is really really nice. I think I will just play this game on it with my PS1 to USB adapter (although I am not sure if the PC game even has gamepad support). I may just have to get me an older ps2 sometime in the future.

PS2 emulation maybe if it's that nice a laptop...

My laptop is nice but only for web stuff like this forum lol

PC version without PC pad support can still be played with a pad with something like Joy2Keys (freeware) or any other sort of remapping program that lets you map keyboard keys to a joy pad, done that all the time for some older games and even emulators that at the time only supported keyboard (some of those still only use keyboard)

Joy2Keys is just one I remember off the top of my head mostly because it's the only one I really used but from other posts there are other more user friendly programs that can do the same things

P.S. I also use a couple of converters that convert PSX/PS2 to PS3/PC USB that work just fine for anything I want to use them with, they just run as HID devices and even support rumble via extra drivers just for rumble support