So, as we all know, the psp can play PSX games. I was sitting thinking and wondered if the NGP will play PS2 games.
anyone read anything about this? speculation is more than acceptable too :)
your thoughts?
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So, as we all know, the psp can play PSX games. I was sitting thinking and wondered if the NGP will play PS2 games.
anyone read anything about this? speculation is more than acceptable too :)
your thoughts?
Doubtful, unless Sony release them on the PSN store for download.
Well, they did for the PSP, so i cant see any reason why not
I don't recall seeing any PS2 games available for download through PSN Store that played on the PSP?
your right, their isnt. The PSP hardware couldnt cope. But....the NGP is a handheld powerhouse that is more than capable of running PS2 games. I guess its a case of wait & see if no one has heard anything.
well considering the ngp was able to play (possibly) dumbed down ports of uncharted and mgs4 i dont see why it would have issues playing ps2 games
it will depend on whether sony puts the necessary hardware to read and execute ps2 isos and then whether or not the companys want to put the games up for download (though im not too sure how that works)
some ps2 games were ported to psp though
powerhouse? its only a bit more powerful than the iphone 4.
there mite be a chance of ps2 on it if they make a port of the ps2 bios for the ngp so it wouldnt have to emulate it cuz theres no way it can emulate a ps2
i agree with the emulation argument. In regards to it being barely more powerful than the iphone 4, your not confusing it with the xperia play are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by krawniksmoka
You once again are retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by luffy4
Those alleged games were specifically developed and programmed to work on the PSP. Since the PSP is not as powerful, has a different layout of controls, and UMDs can't hold as much as a DVD, the native resolution, gameplay, mechanics; they all must be changed to cope on the PSP. It's basically making an entire new game but already knowing what's its trying to be.
What this guy is inferring is just downloading a PS2 ISO, not changing a thing about it (besides changing it to a form the NGP can handle, like an EBOOT) and being able to play it. Yes, there were PORTS of PS2 games on the PSP, but that doesn't even fucking matter.
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Originally Posted by Quiji
What Quiji said x10
again i made a general statement you Pretentious ASS, just because someone says something doesn't make it true. i am well aware as to what had to be done too make them compatible, PSN was mentioned so i was simply stating something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quiji
Now i would like to be able to make a post without the retard know as you being rude, ok?
no its really not much more powerful than the iphone 4 spec wise. honestly i think without its dedicated gpu the ngp isnt that much of a device worth boasting aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by katimari
I've been wondering the same thing. I think this is the best opportunity for Square to put the likes of Final Fantasy X International and Kingdom Hearts Final Mix out in english. I've also wondered if it will have .gif thumbnails and be able to handle more than just mp4's.... I'm dying to know!
OUCH i can feel the sting from that sucker...Quote:
Originally Posted by Quiji
Really!?Quote:
Originally Posted by krawniksmoka
So... the iphone 4 could potentially be able to handle something as intensive as MGS4??
Holy crap.
Of course, this is probably just me being an idiot as usual. :wacko:
i would love to play ps2 games on the ngp.
not sure if it was real or not ( probably not) but i recall seeing a guy play tony hawk pro skater 4 on the ngp.
CHALLENGE:Quote:
Originally Posted by luffy4
Make a post that isn't spam.
GO!
Coming from the master of spam 2009. :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
I doubt it.
It could handle MGS4 in much the same way the PSP could handle MGS2/3.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Count
Which is to say sorta but not really.
Plus it wouldn't be able to output in the same resolution the PS3 can, so it'd be another case of the portable console dropping graphics significantly and therefore not really needing as much power to run the "same" game.
Didn't they do some demo video of the PSP2 playing MGS4 at around 20FPS? Am I the only person that thinks NGP is a terrible name?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
The system isn't out yet. At this point, any claims made about it should be taken with adequate amounts of salt. Overstatement of specs happens all the time, especially with Sony.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
It is a terrible name, but portable consoles always have terrible names. Usually unoriginal terrible names that reek of not trying at all. :wacko:
An excellent point; have they even announced a release date? If Sony dropped PS2 support for the PS3 I don't know why they would add it for their newest portable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
Very late 2011/Eary 2012 in Japan, most likely mid to early-late 2012 everywhere else. Aside from that, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
I think they dropped PS2 support on the PS3 because they developed an emulator or something for PS3 that caused many glitches in some games, and since the games wouldn't play like they were meant to be played, they dropped support for it. They've had a few years to work out the problems, so maybe they'll have something working by the time the NGP comes out that takes a lot less power than a PS3 or PC PS2 emulator that plays them properly just like playing ps2, except unless they figure out how to map the l2/r2 to the back or front touchpad, it wont control like it was originally made, so they might just not even develop ps2 support, especially since Sony knows how many ps2 units were sold, I would assume that they assume at least half of those people still own a ps2, so theres no need. They could also remake ps2 games to run on the ngp perfectly, so they could sell them at a full ngp game price instead of a cheaper PSN price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
they would just probly release new ps2 titles on it and give them more content like they did with p3p on the psp. unless they do i am sticking with the 3ds, at least that tells everyone what its doing, playing a ds in a third dimension lol. they should have stuck with psp2 but then again what do i know, since i like nintendo i am not classified to say anything but will anyways.
edit: even if they didnt add ps2 support, you would always have someone out there who would hack the ngp and make a ps2 emu for it.
Why am I not surprised :wacko:?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
There isn't even a PSOne emulator (of worth) for the PS3, and it will probably be a long time before the PSP2 gets hacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by garrendesares
Yes there is. Which is why you can drop your PSX collection into any PS3 with excellent results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
For the jb or cfw :thot:?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
OK lets see, where to start?
PSOne on the PS3:
Any ps3 can play psone discs, no emulation required. It is natively supported.
PS2 on the PS3:
Up to and including the 60gb models had the emotion engine in them, aka the main ps2 hardware alongside the ps3 innards. They play ps2 games with no emulation, with full compatibility and speed. The 80 gb model removed the emotion engine (due to costs), but tried to extend backwards compatibility with an emulator, but it was buggy and eventually removed.
PSOne on the PSP:
Not natively supported, but the PSN offers some titles converted for download, and all the CFW available for the psp have POPS built in, which stands for PlastationOnPspS, which is an excellent emulator, though t requires a conversion to eboot
NGP hardware:
The Xperia Play benchmarks roughly equate that of the iphone 4, and as youll notice, the only games being released for it are PSOne games and PSP adaptations. If the NGP ships with all that sony is claiming, it will have about 4/5ths the processing power in raw gigflops as the ps3, or roughly 3x that of the xbox 360, and will output on a screen 4/5ths the resolution of 1080p, though they are discussing full hd output via hdmi. That is of course, based on the specs they have released, and all that is subject to change by ship date.
Emulation on a gaming machine doesnt require as much power as on a pc. this is bc 100% of the consoles power can be given to the emulator, whereas in a pc, the os must be running in the background, along with a hundred other processor and memory demanding things. The ngp should be capable of running all ps2 games at full speed, but it is doubtful sony would release an emulator, since it would inherently mean youd have to have a backup of your ps2 disc, and in sony's eyes that makes you automatically a pirate. More likely is that they will release ps2 titles as psn downloads, making you pay for them again.
Regardless, it should only take a few weeks to figure out an efficient emulator for the ps2 on this device, and thats assuming it takes a whole week to hack it ;p
OK trolls, sorry to interupt your bickering about some future toy with reason, please continue
Try "it's standard off-the-shelf on all models of PS3".Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
I just know I'm buying one.
I don't give a fuck, Sony can have my moneys.
I'm excited about MT Framework Mobile.
Just gimme a portable MVC3 and all is right with the world. :nod:
I may be stating the obvious, but everyone knows that the xperia play and the NGP are 2 separate devices right? Some of the posts seem to refer to them as having the same hardware which isnt true in the slightest. The NGP being a dedicated gaming console and the Xperia is obviously a smartphone.
Anyway :), i also plan on buying this on release. I dont care if i have to pay a premium. The touch control on the back interests me aswell, seems a genius way to do things. Especially for us men with big fingers that get in the way of the standard touchscreen which really annoys me when playing games.
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NGP
This is the most powerful handheld device and with PowerVR SGX543MP4+ GPU and quad-core Cortex-A9 and a quad-core you know it will be something to awe.
Main Specifications Include: ARM Cortex-A9 core (4 core), SGX543MP4+ GPU, 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm, Capacitive Rear touch pad Multi touch pad, Front camera, Rear camera, Built-in microphone, Built-in stereo speakers, Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass and Built-in GPS.
The PlayStation Control Buttons: PS button//Power button/Directional buttons/Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square), Right stick, Left stick, Shoulder buttons (Right/Left), START button, SELECT button and Volume buttons (+/-).
Other Features Include: Wi-Fi, Mobile network connectivity (3G), IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1×1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode) and Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR （A2DP/AVRCP/HSP).
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xPeria Play
Size: 119 x 62 x 16 mm
Weight: 175 grams
Phone memory: 400 MB
Memory card support: microSD™, up to 32 GB
Memory card included: 8GB microSD™
Operating system: Google™ Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
Processor: 1 GHz Scorpion ARMv7
Join date: Feb 2011Quote:
Originally Posted by justafigmentofyours
Posts: 1
First and only post calls everybody trolls.
Result: extremely obvious troll
Not that I disagree. You make valid points.
A slightly off-topic piece of information i just stumbled on, Sony plan on releasing a Playstation Tablet that could arrive as early as this summer. Here's the quote.
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According to Japan’s Nikkei, Sony’s CEO, Sir Howard Stringer let it slip that it’s preparing an Android 3.0 tablet – due to arrive by the end of summer. Engadget’s putting the pieces of the puzzle together and figures that the tablet, which could very much be the Sony S1 tablet we previously heard of will likely be a PlayStation Certified device. Detailed at the unveil for the NGP back in January, Sony stated that it was no longer limiting its PlayStation brand and library of games to its own PlayStation devices. Instead, Android devices that meet a certain specification can be “certified” to run PlayStation games. Unlike its competitors, Sony has yet to release a single tablet. In fact, it is the only major electronics giant that hasn’t released its tablet plans yet. In a sea of generic Android-powered tablets, equipping a tablet with the PlayStation brand might be a strategic move that helps Sony differentiate its tablet and give it a fighting chance to compete head to head with Apple’s mighty iPad 2. Let’s just hope Sony’s tablet will at least start at $499 and not a penny more.
Recreational drugs?Quote:
equipping a tablet with the PlayStation brand
Its possible they said that the NGP has the same Graphics as the ps3 that's what i heard
not likely. Check the specs above, then google PS3 specs. Its like saying the xb360 has the same graphics engine as the iphone.Quote:
Originally Posted by park427