Pedophilia, molestation, etc.

It has hit me recently that child molestation is more common than I thought it was.

My teacher was talking to the class about an adult's motive of working with kids. Are majority of them doing it because they love their job? or are they really trying to get somewhere by working with children?

Many school teachers and coaches have been accused of molestation, and it's scary because it could be a teacher/coach in my school. one was actually caught a few years ago.

Just wanna hear what ppl feel about this topic, cuz recently, a person that I look up to was accused of child molestation. He's pretty successful at what he does, but this accusation is going to take away his career even if he's not guilty.

I wonder what develops pedophilic behavior in people. *cough*catholic priests*cough*

i think pedophiles are disgusting and should be shot. sprung, keep quiet!

That is the question, isn't it?

Half a year ago, there was an art teacher in my school that was accused of having "inapporpriate liberties" with a minor. Needless to say, he lost his job over it.

Pedophiles are born so, like hetero and homo people. I just can't believe that people can develop a liking to arse shagging little kids, or cadavers or people of the same sex. I've read enough reports on the so-called successful therapies of pedophiles to tell you that they do not recover, they only suppress their deviant behaviors.

As for the idea that more and more kids are lodging complaints against teachers and coaches only leads me to believe that they do not understand the extent of such actions. Like you said, only one problem of the kind and some guy will loose his job. Fucking sad.

Priests, like teachers and the rest, are just in a position, and have been for quite a while now, of power towards children. It just so happens that they believe that what they do isn't all that bad, simply because they're certain that God is at their side, and that he'll forgive them. Disgusting. Oh, and the Church just moves them away and the get some sort of immunity. Can you imagine what happens to the child of a devotee when he tells him/her what happened?

Also, think about "kid's doctors" (pediatrists ?) . Now, that's a nice position for them to operate, so to speak.

Pedophile's often work in groups called "pedophile rings" they prey on both little boys & girls Lured by unscrupulous men, they are sexually abused and then threatened or lavishly spoiled to encourage them to remain with the �club.�

Sometimes they are sick enough to import orphaned children (For a price) and plan to preform vile acts upon these poor children. The men who plan and perform these vile acts are often prominent leaders of the community and sometimes do so with the full knowledge and protection of the police and the judiciary. Normaly the other members of the ring are just real scum of the Earth, and normaly they are the ones to face the music if all goes wrong for these sick men.

Suspects usualy include: teachers, scientists, law students, medical students, scoutmasters, accountants, and university professors.

A news article reported on Clergymen: Sexual abuse of children by clergymen is also causing outrage. News reports from all over the world reveal the extent of child abuse by clergymen, sometimes even in the name of God. For example, a convicted Anglican priest told his ten-year-old victim that �God was speaking through him [the clergyman], and anything he did or anything [the boy] did was loved by God and therefore right.�

The definition of Pedophilia btw is: Paedophilia refers to sexual attraction towards the very young.Paedophilia invariably involves the commission of crimes such as sexual assault, indecency and offences relating to child pornography.�

Another new's article elaborates on how these sicko's use the internet: "The Internet has been used by many pedophiles who seek to lure children and minors into illegal sex activities. Concern about child pornography on the Internet has been increasing, according to a spokesman in Sweden for Save the Children. In Norway in 1997, this organization received 1,883 tips about child pornography Web sites on the Internet. The next year the number of such tips skyrocketed to almost 5,000. Much of the material is produced in countries where governments or local authorities cannot control this despicable activity"

It's one of those things that Dante described well, "an unusual sexual appetite". I think they will all burn in hell just like knowing homosexuals. It is an unnatural way to feel, and instead of quelling the feeling, they work to satisfy thier lust. This is the same with homo's in my opinion. I dont think that they are born that way, because that would make them unfairly predisposed to sin, which is stupid. It's another bullshit way of not taking personal responsibility for thier actions. But i give homo's enough credit to be in a consentual (bad spelling :() relationship with a grown up. Children (most of em anyway) do not have the ability to make sound judgement calls on being in relationships with others. They can hardly share a toy, let alone suck a cock.

I do not think that people who wish to work with children want to fondle baby-balls all day long. I used to work with children and seeing the R. Kelly video made me sick to my stomach (wish i could unsee that :sigh: ). It's an unfounded opinionated statement. You could say the same for mine except ive talked to numerous gay ppl and it is still super fucking unlogical. Either way, i would like to kill them and send them to hell faster. Fags can stick around for a while, as long as they stay away from my stick.

Another funny thing, the majority of molestation cases ive heard about were Men molesting boys. Could homosexuality be linked to this? I think so.

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Originally Posted by malice2501

This is the same with homo's in my opinion. I dont think that they are born that way, because that would make them unfairly predisposed to sin, which is stupid. It's another bullshit way of not taking personal responsibility for thier actions.

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i...don't know why but, that entire paragraph sounds like a huge crock of shit. :scared:

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Originally Posted by Mikey

i...don't know why but, that entire paragraph sounds like a huge crock of shit. :scared:

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and why is that? because you disagree?

I agree that people are not born gay. You may be born with a tendancy toward's homosexuality, but you still have a choice. And even if they were, Not ALL gay's could be born gay, most would use it as an excuse. But yeah, if you want to gay, thats your decition. I wish people would stop trying to justify it.

well, for one how do you know gays aren't born gay? if they aren't, around what age are they gay? do they catch the gay? do they learn the way of the gay? do they download the gay virus? what proof is there that people aren't born gay and instead CHOOSE to be gay.

Are peopdophiles born peopdophiles? It's a sexual inclination.

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Originally Posted by Mikey

well, for one how do you know gays aren't born gay? if they aren't, around what age are they gay? do they catch the gay? do they learn the way of the gay? do they download the gay virus? what proof is there that people aren't born gay and instead CHOOSE to be gay.

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And what proof do you have that they ARE born gay? Where is the gay gene? Why didnt darwinism kill it off? How can homosexuality exist in nature without dying off every time it becomes dominant? And are child molesters born "that way" as well? what makes them different from homos?

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Originally Posted by Xena

Are peopdophiles born peopdophiles? It's a sexual inclination.

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I agree

hey, i didn't say i had proof that people are born gay. i'm just sayin' where's the proof for any of this :) no where. just thoughts and opinions and beliefs. no actual facts.

my opinion is supported by Darwin and the bible.

how can my opinion not be supported when i never gave my opinion in the 1st place? all i was asking was where's the proof for any of it.

edited that last post, so you are right to say you didnt give an opinion. But you also have taken that stance, so i naturally assumed that you either held that opinion, or supported it (otherwise youre just stirring shit up, which is fine).

And your stance also has no proof, so there ya go.

So if there is no proof supporting being born queer, why did people start saying they were born queer in the first place? Wa it just an excuse? Or was there some scientfic theory?

how can i have a stance if i never gave it? lol kidding. i wouldn't know really if people are born gay or not. it does sound pretty dumb to assume people ARE born that way. exactly like xena said, its like saying that pedo's are born wanting to touch kids in bad ways. honestly, here is my opinion: i don't think people are born gay. i think prolly things in their life made them lean towards being gay. or not. i could be wrong lol. either way, i've no way of backing that up cuz i have no proof. not even the bible cuz i'm not a religious person so i've never read it.

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Originally Posted by Xena

So if there is no proof supporting being born queer, why did people start saying they were born queer in the first place? Wa it just an excuse? Or was there some scientfic theory?

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sounds more like an excuse. which could be wrong also lol.

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Originally Posted by malice2501

This is the same with homo's in my opinion. I dont think that they are born that way, because that would make them unfairly predisposed to sin, which is stupid.

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What's more stupid, thinking that they're born that way, or that they're predisposed to sin? LMAO :rofl:
I just can't start to elaborate on such a feeble idea. Dude, that's retarded.

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Originally Posted by malice

It's another bullshit way of not taking personal responsibility for thier actions.

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Does them having sexual intercourse (homos) deprive you of anything? No, you say? Then why would you believe that it has anything to do with evading their responsibilities? Should they pay for that? Makes little sense.

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Originally Posted by malice

But i give homo's enough credit to be in a consentual (bad spelling :() relationship with a grown up. Children (most of em anyway) do not have the ability to make sound judgement calls on being in relationships with others. They can hardly share a toy, let alone suck a cock.

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Are you saying that some children are capable of understanding pedophilia? That's just a pedophile's argument, you know?

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Originally Posted by malice

I used to work with children and seeing the R. Kelly video made me sick to my stomach (wish i could unsee that :sigh: ). It's an unfounded opinionated statement. You could say the same for mine except ive talked to numerous gay ppl and it is still super fucking unlogical.

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Could you rephrase that?

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Originally Posted by malice

Either way, i would like to kill them and send them to hell faster. Fags can stick around for a while, as long as they stay away from my stick.

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ha HAH, religion based homophobia. To be expected.
Fear them not, they can do you no harm. Or is it that you're scared that you might enjoy being caressed by another man? That could be it, recent studies have proven that homophobic males are likely to be closeted homos themselves. Better watch yourself there.

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Originally Posted by malice

Another funny thing, the majority of molestation cases ive heard about were Men molesting boys. Could homosexuality be linked to this? I think so.

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There, again, your homophobia kicks in. You tend to remember those particular cases simply because they fuel your twisted, unjustified hatred towards the homos.

From what i can tell, it was just a sorry theory to make an excuse for thier life style. They have not come up with any evidence, except they supposedly found a gay duck, which im pretty sure died off. Why they insist everyone has to accept it and think of them as normal is beyond me. I'm an Arab and get treated like shit on a daily basis, but i suck it the fuck up. Homosexuals insist that even if the general population doesnt discriminate against them, they must still be welcomed with open arms into every nook and cranny of society. This is bullshit, and if a child molester tried it, we would hang em.

wow. pwnt
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malice 0
why can't i speak as well as you evans?

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Originally Posted by Evans

What's more stupid, thinking that they're born that way, or that they're predisposed to sin? LMAO :rofl:
I just can't start to elaborate on such a feeble idea. Dude, that's retarded.



Does them having sexual intercourse (homos) deprive you of anything? No, you say? Then why would you believe that it has anything to do with evading their responsibilities? Should they pay for that? Makes little sense.



Are you saying that some children are capable of understanding pedophilia? That's just a pedophile's argument, you know?



Could you rephrase that?



ha HAH, religion based homophobia. To be expected.
Fear them not, they can do you no harm. Or is it that you're scared that you might enjoy being caressed by another man? That could be it, recent studies have proven that homophobic males are likely to be closeted homos themselves. Better watch yourself there.



There, again, your homophobia kicks in. You tend to remember those particular cases simply because they fuel your twisted, unjustified hatred towards the homos.

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im not a homophobe jackass. and did i say i was religious? please stop assuming you know shit about me.

malice, so...you're mad cuz people treat you like shit and don't welcome you with open arms so...you bash gays because they want to be treated with equal human rights and be welcomed with open arms also?

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Originally Posted by Mikey

malice, so...you're mad cuz people treat you like shit and don't welcome you with open arms so...you bash gays because they want to be treated with equal human rights and be welcomed with open arms also?

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when did i bash gays? tell me that one and ill donate 1k in gil to you. Being treated with equal rights is getting the same job as a hetero, not making everyone think your point of view is normal. i made that statement about myself in the perspective that everyone has to eat shit, but only gays are making it into a "gay bashing" deal.

Evans, so are you all for gay pride then?

well, for one, malice, you call homsexual's fags. thats a durogatory (sp?) word, no? thats like calling blacks niggers, jews kikes (sp??), calling latin people spics and asian's chinks. you find that acceptable? thats a hateful word. and you also think that gays are somehow linked to males molesting children. because they're gay? does the source that you're getting all this from say that these men are gay? or are you just using that as more material to bash them.

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Originally Posted by Mikey

well, for one, malice, you call homsexual's fags. thats a durogatory (sp?) word, no? thats like calling blacks niggers, jews kikes (sp??), calling latin people spics and asian's chinks. you find that acceptable? thats a hateful word. and you also think that gays are somehow linked to males molesting children. because they're gay? does the source that you're getting all this from say that these men are gay? or are you just using that as more material to bash them.

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I call them fags just as a term, just like i say midgets, not little people. And if a man screws a male child, doesnt that make him gay and a child molester? So once again, you have yet to prove that i gay bashed anyone. So that 1k is still up for grabs.

And even if i was gay bashing, dont i have the right to do so? i dont get down like that, but since when does anyone have the right to tell them how to feel? I have a gay friend, and as long as he doesnt try to have sex with me im fine with him. But he knows and accepts the fact that i do not approve of his lifestyle choices. So if he can understand that not everyone thinks having a cock in the mouth of another man is ok, why is it so hard for you? No one else on the planet gets bashed but homosexuals, and thats just fucking stupid.

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Originally Posted by malice2501

I call them fags just as a term, just like i say midgets, not little people. And if a man screws a male child, doesnt that make him gay and a child molester?

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do midgets even have actual terms for themselves? like homosexuals, etc? if not then you have no other choice but to refer to them in that way. both words sound pretty fucked up actually. not a good comparison malice. if a man has sex with a boy it makes him a child molestor. yes. that doesn't make him gay. suppose the gay is married to a woman and his kids. so, then we have a gay straight man who molests kids but is married to a woman he loves and has had kids with? that doesn't stick does it.

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Originally Posted by Mikey

do midgets even have actual terms for themselves? like homosexuals, etc? if not then you have no other choice but to refer to them in that way. both words sound pretty fucked up actually. not a good comparison malice. if a man has sex with a boy it makes him a child molestor. yes. that doesn't make him gay. suppose the gay is married to a woman and his kids. so, then we have a gay straight man who molests kids but is married to a woman he loves and has had kids with? that doesn't stick does it.

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Actually, midgets prefer the term "Little Person", to them, saying midget is just like saying fag, so it is appropriate. And to me, this is just an opinion, if you want to have sex with another male, no matter age or situation, then you are a fag, a homo, a player on the other team. Seems to stick fine. :shrug:

And you never answered if you are for gay pride or not.

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Originally Posted by malice2501

im not a homophobe jackass. and did i say i was religious? please stop assuming you know shit about me.

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I don't know shit about you, I just read the shit you post. Which is more than enough to know what you are about.

Would anyone say they hold evidence from the Bible were they not religious? I think not. Simply because people who are not religious don't give credit to what is written in the Bible, much less assume it's true or remotly usable matter.

Xena, you made a good point. I'll take a bit further. Animals have been found to partake in homosexual behaviors. A particular breed of monkeys, dolphins and some others I don't recall, not that this info is precise anyways.

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Originally Posted by malice

I'm an Arab and get treated like shit on a daily basis, but i suck it the fuck up. Homosexuals insist that even if the general population doesnt discriminate against them, they must still be welcomed with open arms into every nook and cranny of society.

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So, does this justify your hatred? Are you jealous that they tend to put up a better fight than you do? If you can't assume your place, that's your problem, don't come ranting that since you can't others shouldn't. It's pathetic. And I mean that in the worst way.

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Originally Posted by Xena

So if there is no proof supporting being born queer, why did people start saying they were born queer in the first place? Wa it just an excuse? Or was there some scientfic theory?

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Well, I'd say that they believe so just as much as you believe in God. Can I prove to you that he doesn't exist? Can you prove to them that they aren't born so? If we are to argue that being born gay doesn't exist, may we bring in here some gay people and ask them when they found it out?

Could homosexuality be just a "defect of the genes"? A modification that takes place in the whomb? Theories go that the more males a woman has, the more chances of the last one being gay. I truly can't say, but as far as being born gay goes, I'll certainly give more credit to gay people than to those who have for sole argument that it's a sin to be born so or that being defects, they would have been eliminated through natural selection. Need I remind you that since the power of the Church held so much sway over the people back in history that gay people were psychologically strong-armed into mariage and therefore might have been able to survive?

And Xena, why should I care for the whole Gay Pride thing? Defending their right to live life as they wish does in no way mean that I support their in-your-face attitude. Nope. Plus, what does this have to do with anything?

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Originally Posted by malice2501

Actually, midgets prefer the term "Little Person", to them, saying midget is just like saying fag, so it is appropriate. And to me, this is just an opinion, if you want to have sex with another male, no matter age or situation, then you are a fag, a homo, a player on the other team. Seems to stick fine. :shrug:

And you never answered if you are for gay pride or not.

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fair enough. those are you opinions. and i'm not evans, so i'm not answering that gay pride thing.

either way, i have work in the morning. i would give you some good rep for this if i hadnt given you some already. ;)

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Originally Posted by Xena

Evans, so are you all for gay pride then?

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When I see homosexuals acting out, I'm as disgusted by the lack of manners they present as when confronted to heteros who whistle at the sight of a beautiful women or vice versa. If you're thinking about parades and the likes, I don't care. Don't us, heteros, have our car shows and the likes? I don't see your point here. Care to put it more clearly, if I haven't answered it yet?

most of the car shows i know of have nothing to do with sex. :nosweat:

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Originally Posted by malice2501

most of the car shows i know of have nothing to do with sex. :nosweat:

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you've seen gay pride parades where the men are humping each other like wild jack rabits? if not keep quiet ;) and give me +rep for what? lol busting your chops? :-P

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Originally Posted by malice2501

most of the car shows i know of have nothing to do with sex. :nosweat:

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Then you should change shows, most are usually littered with boobs and buttocks. I don't care, it's just that I don't see the point. I have the strippers for that. I want cars, motors, turbos and chrome. I want REAL bumpers. :P

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Originally Posted by Evans

When I see homosexuals acting out, I'm as disgusted by the lack of manners they present as when confronted to heteros who whistle at the sight of a beautiful women or vice versa. If you're thinking about parades and the likes, I don't care. Don't us, heteros, have our car shows and the likes? I don't see your point here. Care to put it more clearly, if I haven't answered it yet?

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I don't see why you brought me having any point into this... it was just a question. Comparing car shows to gat parades... human beings are more imporatant then cars, you know.

If you don't care, then it's all good.

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Originally Posted by Mikey

you've seen gay pride parades where the men are humping each other like wild jack rabits? if not keep quiet ;) and give me +rep for what? lol busting your chops? :-P

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well, yes. and +rep for having a decent conversation.

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Originally Posted by Mikey

you've seen gay pride parades where the men are humping each other like wild jack rabits? if not keep quiet ;) and give me +rep for what? lol busting your chops? :-P

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Errr, I have. In Qu�bec, people are REALLY tolerant. You won't see cocks, but tits and butts.

Ever seen the Carnivale, in Rio? AWESOME. Why? Easy, people don't fucking care. If it was the same here, it would be even better. We could focus more on the real problems. Alas...

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Originally Posted by Xena

I don't see why you brought me having any point into this... it was just a question. Comparing car shows to gat parades... human beings are more imporatant then cars, you know.

If you don't care, then it's all good.

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I don't. I couldn't. There's nothing to care about. ;)
BTW, it's just weird when someone drops by just for a question not meant to take the argument further or on another level. Just so you know. ;) (Just.)

Errr, you're a girl, it shows.:P

-Gay pride= almost naked guys and gals. For the gays.

-Car show= almost naked gals. For men, or lesbians, but they'd have to care for cars, I guess.

If I don't care for the exposure of women for the pleasure of men, why should I for the same thing but for the gays? That was my point.