Like, do you prefer Xbox, Playstation, or Nintendo? That is, if you have any preference. Myself, I'm a Sony guy. My favorite IP this generation is Gravity Rush.
Like, do you prefer Xbox, Playstation, or Nintendo? That is, if you have any preference. Myself, I'm a Sony guy. My favorite IP this generation is Gravity Rush.
I'm definitely a Sony guy. I've never trusted or liked Microsoft long before they entered the console market. Anyone that knows how they are with computers should know to never buy the first run of anything they release. So that turned me off from them further. Not saying Sony is perfect by any means since the PS3 OG model would just about guarantee brick after so much time. Aside from the technical aspect of the big 3's systems, I've always preferred Sony's exclusives and number of exclusives. I'm a huge fan of Metroid, Zelda, and Mario, but to me that's all Nintendo has to offer as far as exclusives. Back to Microsoft I just don't care for anything on their systems aside from Oddworld Stranger's Wrath(which is downloadable for Sony's PS3, Vita, and PS4 now) and Panzer Dragoon Orta on the original Xbox. I don't care for FPS unless they're on PC so that knocks out the Xbox again. So yeah that's my opinion on my favorite console maker and why I like Sony.
You forgot to mention that DS3 controllers don't have removable batteries, DS4 usb port fail rate, several multi plat games on PS3 are a bit broken (I mean more so than 360 versions)...notably Bethesda games in particular, but also Metro Last Light (game save corruption glitch).Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzcln
Orta isn't the only decent Xbox exclusive, you should try Metal Wolf Chaos at least.
I'll take those problems with Sony's machines any day compared to the 360's RROD. I worked at Gamestop when it launched and can honestly say I had about 1 in every 3 customers come back within a week returning them. Not to mention the systems scratching the discs. That aside there just weren't any exclusives that interested me on any of the Xbox systems. Definitely not enough to warrant me actually purchasing a system.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
I don't have any real preference anymore. Console fanboyism is pointless and just holds you back from enjoying fun games.
Those issues were resolved with the Falcon model, everything Jasper and up is prettymuch bullet proof. Not that anybody ever cares, the 360's reputation was trashed.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzcln
The problem with games being broken is that there isn't anything that can be done about it really. At least with console failure (or controllers) you can return for replacement. Even beyond retail warranty if consumer law covers it (like it does here). Obviously if a console is 10 years old it won't be covered though, but at that point not many people care anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzcln
You must've worked at gamestop quite some time ago as 360 consoles dying is something that happened with old versions, as Ragnar said. Same with PS3.
I've never had any hardware issues with my 360 slim or my PS3 slim, never had a console of either type die on me yet although I have been given a couple of PS3 fats (recently) that were already dead, plus one that is still working.
Had an original Xbox die on me under warranty but the replacement is still working ok many years later.
The more recent issue is DS4 controller usb ports becoming dysfunctional. I personally know one guy that has a day 1 console and went through 4 controllers until he got one that is working ok.
I have to agree with ozzcln. The only Xbox franchise that ever interested me personally was Halo. I loved the series up till Reach. When Halo 4 was announced, I was already a bit skeptical with Bungie not working on it, but also the fact that Reach ended the series. I felt we didn't need more. My worries were vindicated when I played Halo 4. It was nothing like Bungie's games. It really felt like Call of Duty but with a Halo skin slapped on. And then there's The Master Chief Collection, oh god, it still hurts. When that was announced, I pretty much instantly bought an XB1, I was so hyped, being able to relive the days of Halo 2 Online, sign me up. Then it came out... and the online was forever broken. I replayed the campaigns and those were nice. But, I knew at this point, there was no point in me owning an XB1, as I already had a PS4. I sold the XB1 a few months back for $110, it was worth it. I really don't think I've ever been more disappointed in my life then with MCC.
I worked at an xbox call center back in 08/09. Talk about mayhem.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzcln
I've had 2 360 slims and 2 ps3 slims over the years and not one single issue.
Can't really say if I prefer either over the other - they both have strong points. Of course Sony had the better online services. Psn and PS+ were great. I found some games ran better on the 360 (cue the 7 year Bethesda discussions between me and DL :P) found the 360 had a slightly sharper resolution through hdmi on a 720p tv being able to hit 1360x768, never saw that option on the ps3 just 1280x720 (back in the day of course) the 360 handled multi-tasking a little better too. Ps3 was more budget oriented too, when you bought a 360 you had to pay for extras like the wireless adapter and even a freaking charge cable which incidentally doesn't even connect the data portion ffs. So PS3 wins on that one.
Anyhow like both just the same. Can't speak to the new systems though. Oh and Nintendo. Fuck Nintendo. I'm not a kid who plays Pokemons or some moron walking down the street playing a portable device. They topped out with the n64 and maybe the cube actually. If I wanna play Mario or Zelda I'll emulate one of the old cartridge systems.
Oh and as far as a fave goes. Welp sorry boys. PC wins out.
I've definitely had enough of Nintendo's crap lately. The only thing I care about from them anymore is Fire Emblem.
I think pretty much everyone have their preferences as far as console/game developers or gaming platforms refers. As for me, exclusive games is what makes me decide whether a gaming platform is worth my money or not. Sony and Nintendo are my safest bets by far. I was never interesed in the first Xbox, the 360 had some good exclusives at first, but that changed soon. And the Xbone, again, is of no interest to me. And I wouldn't even consider getting a gaming PC. Can't think of any single PC exclusive game I want to play :lol
All console manufacturers should never be fully trusted because they all pull dumb crap regularly. Nintendo is the most regular, Sony the most sneaky, and Microsoft the most inept and horrifying. I want to everyone to remember that time they tried to nuke the entire used game market, and thus the entire physical game market, with the Xbox One launch until everyone yelled so much that they eventually backed down in the most cowardly, spiteful way possible.
As for developers and publishers, only Wadjet Eye and Devolver Digital stick out for their own personal style. You want a high quality, beautiful point and click, just look through Wadjet Eye's library. As for Devolver, they've been called the Def Jam Records of gaming. They love Adult Swim style anti-humor and published amazing stuff like Always Sometimes Monsters, Hotline Miami, Enter The Gungeon, Broforce, and NOT A HERO.
Also, they are responsible for the greatest E3 presentation ever made. I urge you to watch this, it's incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqPT9hyPANs
I do remember when the XB1 was always supposed to be online and used games not being able to be played, but what did they do that was cowardly and spiteful for taking these restrictions off? I don't remember this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
Well at least Xbone has decent bc and they keep adding titles. Sony are more like Nintendo in this area, making you pay to play old titles (if they're available). Or for some people making them regret getting rid of their PS3 (which is silly, but yeah people did that).
Also, Xbone is a bit cheaper (at least here anyway). You can get a new S for under $300au but I haven't seen Pro that cheap. Again, Sony being like Nintendo...the latter being reluctant to reduce home console prices here since after the Wii.
Another thing (although this is irrelevant for the vast majority of gamers) is that for people like me that just use consoles and can't be bothered with PC, Xbone is tempting since the likes of Fallout 4 and Skyrim SE aren't as gimped for mods.
They released a statement on their website basically blaming everyone for not loving their genius idea of the destroying an entire industry so they can be a worse, less useful Steam (and lord knows Steam has a whole heap of problems).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pringr0
The used games industry is a bigger problem for consoles than piracy really. Plenty of people feel terrible about pirating games but nobody feels like that buying a used game.
Did you ever hear about this?
The big console manufacturers don't really need defending from the horror of a market that exists in every single other industry in existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
Microsoft just wanted more control over the market and to cause further divide for a stronger base. You still see them trying with the Windows store, which is infamous for releasing major releases broken constantly. They're just really bad at anything besides being a good third party console box (their exclusives have become background noise in the past few years).
Please keep in mind all of the big three want to do this and make plays regularly because they're businesses. It's generally good policy to look at all these guys with a critical eye because they're all pretty inept in at least one field and other others are quick to capitalize on those weaknesses. Sony sticks out for their cocky attitude after they make big wins, like that huge shade they cast over Microsoft's always on insanity. Afterwards, they started making a lot of small mistakes and assumptions. Probably the height of this behavior was the PS3 launch, which was vastly overpriced with confusing hardware, given one of the most embarrassing E3 showings ever. The Xbox One announcement was effectively Microsoft's version of that.
I tend to respect Nintendo a bit more than the other three most days because they pretty much do whatever they want, but they're also the hardest on streamers and video producers, not to mention their lackluster understanding of online. I think I respect Sony the most because they pick up on what their audience once most faster than anyone else and have a really varied line of exclusives, especially now that they've brought back Crash. Even at their weakest, there's usually something for everyone.
I prefer PC, though, because I usually don't play big releases but weird indie games or doujin releases. You don't need particularly impressive specs for something like, say, The Magic Circle or Broforce. That said, I do miss owning physical disks, but that seems to be going away in console spaces anyways with a mess of major releases requiring a company server or disks just being a small part of the whole release that you have to download in patches once installed.
I've been jumping between MS and Sony consoles for the most part, both have had strengths and weaknesses. Like I said I'm not a PC gamer anymore and haven't been into that for many many years...so MS consoles have been good for me in the sense that multi plat games are generally a little better.
The controllers too are more suited for my needs tbh :shrug: I got a PS3/4 Hori controller recently though which is a big improvement over DS3/4 layout imo.
That being said I've had and got more Sony consoles than any other manufacturer. I'm just not into the jrpgs like I was back in the PSX days (the exception being Souls games I guess, but they're wrpg to me), and I honestly can't stand most of the other anime style crap now. And Nintendo is mostly games for children...pretty much the same games too, occasionally with much better graphics.
JRPGs have been on a big downward spiral for awhile, now you have to look at what indie and doujin groups make, like Helen's Mysterious Castle or Cosmic Star Heroine. I'd say Nintendo has the best exclusives and Sony the most varied, but that's starting to shift a bit as the Fire Emblem series is slowly going downhill with its new direction and Sony keeps releasing cinematic focused turds like The Order 1886. That may be good for the long run, though, because it means more games are being released everywhere for anyone to try.
I'm curious to how consoles will stick around because becoming mini PCs with controllers isn't going to last forever. Nintendo seems to have the right idea by experimenting with control styles, the portable Switch stuff works way better than anyone expected and shows a lot of promise to make an experience you can only get on that console. I personally think VR is going to be a dead end, but I may get surprised there as the tech improves.
"Cinematic" games aren't so bad...well as long as they're interesting. The Order wasn't fantastic but after hearing everybody poo-poo it for ages I got it cheap (when I finally got a PS4) and I've definitely seen worse stuff than that. In fact some popular games are worse than that for me, FF13 for example.
And I'm fine with games like Heavy Rain, LA Noire etc. It's actually good to have something now and then that you can just relax with...and not be a game for little kids that happens to be easy
Consoles will last in whatever form. Plenty of people like me just can't be bothered with PC now (and most I know are around my age give or take 5-8 years) even though we messed around with stuff like that a fair bit when we were young.
I don't mind cinematic stuff either (I mean I'm a guy who likes a lot of so called "walking sims"), but The Order 1886 is a pretty poor excuse for an exclusive, as was Beyond Two Souls. I think David Cage ran out of steam after Heavy Rain, which is still a pretty mixed bag.
Someone here haven't been paying too much attention to the PS4 catalogue in quite some time :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
Heavy Rain is fine.
Next you'll say all the Uncharted games suck balls :rolleyes: too much shootan and cut scenes...or whatever.
Neither are significant problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
Eh, Heavy Rain is kind of in the middle. I like a lot of its ambitions and the direction of scenes, but some scenes are kind of hilarious when they weren't supposed to be. Kind of got the same vibe in Indigo Prophecy, which I didn't mind as much because that game ended up being so ridiculous in universe. Beyond Two Souls was just bad. The problems with David Cage games isn't the cinematics, it's that Cage's writing is kind of bad and only survives with good actors. Beyond's script was so bad that not even William Dafoe could save it.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
What don't you like about new Fire Emblem? FE's one of my favorite series, and I love most of the games personally. Only FE2, 6, and 12 really don't do anything for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
I may be in a minority here, but honestly, I love cinematic games. I think of them as a genre to play to unwind after maybe a long day of work, or school. Yeah, there are bad ones (such as The Order or Quantum Break), but I really enjoy em. I even enjoyed Beyond Two Souls honestly, and I'm excited for Detroit: Become Human.
New FE is becoming so anime that it's starting to get all the bad parts of anime we'd all rather didn't exist, and this is coming from a guy who has a history of seriously writing about porn doujins.
The series peaked with Path of Radiance for me and never recovered.
I have to disagree personally Darkseid. I personally loved FE Fates Conquest (Birthright was fun, Rev was meh), and adored Echoes. I never played Awakening personally though, as I never found a physical copy. I will agree with you though that PoR was the pinnacle of the franchise.
I don't really have a particular preference with modern console manufacturers. Like Cookie said, I just go wherever the exclusives I like best go. ^^;;; If I had to pick a company I like best of the current big three, I'd go with Nintendo for mostly nostalgic reasons. But I don't have any overwhelming loyalty to any of them.
If we're talking old consoles as well, though, I must admit I have something of a soft spot for Sega stuff. ^^;;; The Master System, Game Gear, Mega Drive, Saturn, and Dreamcast each hold very fond memories for me for one reason or another, and Sega's consoles tend to be the old platforms I go back to most regularly now (I was playing the Saturn just yesterday~ ^^/). And even though I don't even follow most of their IPs very closely anymore, if Sega were to reenter the console market, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be tempted to buy in for nostalgia's sake. :'D