im not going to tell you why I asked this,as for that's a personal matter. but is using ROM's considered illegal?
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im not going to tell you why I asked this,as for that's a personal matter. but is using ROM's considered illegal?
If you do not own them yes.
some are abandonware though so they are free game.
Yes you're a filthy pirate.
Not as bad as pirates of old that didn't wash for months or even more than a year, and sometimes resorted to anal sex with their mates because having a woman on your ship was considered bad luck.
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ARRRRRR. If you download a couple roms you are basically Black Beard. I've heard there is legislation in the works to bring back hanging as a punishment for pirates, so be careful out there in the Romcific Ocean.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
I think I might move this thread as it's rather vague, and the OP doesn't seem to be looking for specific Nintendo emu help.
Edit:
Moved to GG.
You aren't considered as a pirate if you have already bought retail copies. However, i download roms or isos only for games that i don't own
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Owning the game doesn't mean you can download the ISO/ROM legally, it depends on the country.
That's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunkin' Monster
Thanks for verifying that Gobby. Is this post 100% redumped?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrior
If you own the game your downloading No,it is not considered Pirateing But if do NOT own the game,YES it is considered Pirateing.
Depends what country you're in. This has been mentioned already :yawn:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kvnrdrguez
Wait, what's the title if I download a few hundred?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joey Freshwater
Well, if you download the rom it depends on your country. If you make it yourself with a cable and money, it's always legal. Also, they can tell the difference when they inspect the computer.
Dumping the ROM/creating the ISO yourself is also illegal in some countries..Quote:
Originally Posted by Masakitai
Oh, oops guess I should check. I mean I only pirate if I can't get the game in the States.
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I can't not believe people are still asking this question. Let me answer the question so I can (hopefully) stop the question from spreading here.
Okay, first of all, using other a rom or ISO is NOT pirating. Huge difference.
How it's different:
Spoiler warning:
Besides, downloading a rom or an ISO isn't pirating, because if it were, Emuparadise would've been sued for lots of money, just like TPB. It's technically stealing, but what doesn't make Emuparadise meet these criterias is that the performance of an emulator is HORRIBLE with any games past 3,000,000 kbs. Try Final Fantasy. Do you know how much money that game made, and do you know how big the game is? Chances are it's either 3,000,000 kbs or past that. Driver: Parallel Lines is 3,000,000 kbs. I ran it on PCSX2 and the textures were mutilated.
Preformance is what makes gamers buy a game. Good ol' try-before-you-buy. (Don't always use an emulator to test performance. This is why YouTube exists.)
EDIT: This post goes just for North American laws.
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Originally Posted by The Researcher
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Originally Posted by Cookie Monster
My post (the one about performance and kbs) contains laws for states/provinces in North America A.K.A United States or Canada.
Emuparadise isn't illegal because providing the game for DL is fine so long as the people DLing own the game and they don't actually promote pirates also just because something is illegal doesn't mean it gets taken down tpb has been up forever same with kickass torrents and others that are used to pirate this is because providing a service is not always illegal when using it for an illegal purpose is there are also bylaws that allow games past a certain date to be downloaded moded and what have you after a certain period of time
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I don't know where the idea that owning a game cartridge means you can download somebody else's dump of it came from, but it is rubbish.
The only legal dump you can make is by yourself, and that is somewhat frowned upon.
Unless you're going to download huge sets of games without using a secure and privacy-ensured VPN (i.e. one that won't send data back to your ISP) then I wouldn't worry if you're going to download Super Street Fighter 2 to your PC so you can wallop Bison's arse as Cammy again, or whatever you may wish to do with your emulation needs.
Pirating is the wrong term to use, however.
Explain the bolded bit. I don't understand how whatever you meant was rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cammygirl192
Geez.
If ever there was a facepalm worthy thread this is it.
Do some of you know how retarded you sound?
See there's this thing called Google, look up your own countries bloody copyright laws ffs.
Thanks for this post. It was so useful. I really won't make that mistake of "pirateing" anything ever again, especially if I stick to the under 300,000,000 kbs rule. :]Quote:
Originally Posted by The Researcher
As someone who's actually worked with ip-law I would like to clarify that I'm pretty sure the thread starter's personal matter had something to do with genital herpes.
Thank you for sharing. (sarcasm)Quote:
Originally Posted by Elmdor Rizer
Feel free to make use of my sexually related presumptions at any time, mister. (gonorrhea)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Researcher
Pirating usually tends to be of PHYSICAL terms like discs and whatnot (VHS lol), but games are sometimes only sold through net purchases and other non-cash means, so in common sense, people will also turn on self-made copies, or even conversions of products and consider them as PIRATED goods. But are they really?
Many countries differ in their sense on this issue, and some DO consider just having a virtual copy of something as PIRACY, but is having a copy be considered as an act of a PIRATE. If it was, then the internet would be dead (Literally). Although I do get the point that leaking something into the net is BAD for business, you should consider if there is ANY business AT ALL involved with such act. Let's just say I had a copy of a game (Physically) then my console that plays the game turned brick on me. I thought "WAIT, I can still EMULATE this game." which I could, but it would require me to COPY/CONVERT the game into ROM/ISO/Etc. Is doing so really be considered PIRACY. No one loses money, no one gains also. Just me preserving my ability to play the game. THAT is definitely NOT PIRACY..... well not to me anyways
How about uploads and mass shared rips? Still, you should consider if MONEY is involved (It's business that matters anyway). No one would pay for copies of games (Both old AND new.... but mostly old) that are either unplayable due to console being PHASED-OUT (Exemption of course for collector valued items) or unplayable due to the console not even existing in their locale merchandisers/market. Why would they buy if they can't play (Duh). If you didn't understand the view point there, then I guess I should explain in simpler, more $$$-friendly terms. EVERYTHING HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE, EVEN THINGS THAT ARE NOT CONSUMABLE. And as an unwritten rule existing in the old or even in modern trade, NEVER SELL EXPIRED (ROTTEN) GOODS. (Even thought this is not applicable to the second condition stated, it's still like trying to sell goods no one even knows what do with. It's better to give it to people who knows what to do with it than to discard it completely though.....personally.)
In short terms, Piracy is only a term applicable to acts where the MAKERS lose money. Well that's me, but meh, there are people who would think I'm wrong.
(It's been awhile since I last posted, so forgive me for my VERY LONG rantings.)
aha!
irony, given the nature of this joint, but just for the f*ck of it, i'll engage.
i have no real outlook, sufficed to say:
1, what the eye doesn't see.
2, very important, nobody loses revenue, the devs themselves, screw publishers and corps.
3, for personal use, who the literal flyer has the right to determine that, it's the distribution that's the issue, and it's the only one (rightly so) fairly given credence in court.
4, wow!
my ratio at a private house will be incriminating in itself.
something like 70+up to 8-down with stupid ratio count, plused out! :biggrin:
not ashamed to share my own retail disks dumped, gotta have QA, even if i assist the 'pirates' by proxy, it's about preserving and making available from this standpoint, i bought the original disks...and many aren't that fortunate.
5, the net provides, and i do the same in my own macabre way, by my own rulzes. :biggrin: (without breaching any given site mandate naturally.)
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To a degree, this is actually true. See, shit like being able to create an ISO of a game is what happens when big companies treat their employees like shit. When a company shits on an employee of that company, the employee takes a bigger shit. ISO makers aren't at fault, the employees (at certain times) can be at fault, but not all the time. Sometimes, not even the company. But even companies can do some stupid things. Look at Disney with Star Wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by a500+
That isn't so bad. I was expecting much worse tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Researcher
You should look at MTVs The Shannara Chronicles.
I think Disney is much worse. I don't care for MTV, really. Disney ruined lots of things before.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
Eh... Its a grey area, Some people say its fine others hate the fact that roms exist
That's because it is. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SGL00
While technically piracy, there's no way for anyone to prove that you don't actually own copies of the games you're pirating, so it's a grey area in the law. You should be safe in the States, still a filthy pirate though.
Is it really that bad if you're downloading a 15+ year old games that are rather expensive (Illbleed, Project Justice, Silent Hill 1) before taking the plunge and actually buying them?
Would you steal a car to test drive it first before buying the same make and model?Quote:
Originally Posted by skwid79
I have :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
Oh and never even bought the car either :revwacko:
Also completely serious.
Did you steal a car, apprehended, court summons and then not get convicted though? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Zaladane
Not even caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
Drove it off a cliff actually, bailed beforehand!
Yes that's ridiculous. Just like this thread :wacko:
Still true though. Or not?
Isn't that why there's a such thing as a test drive. To be honest I really just want as little as a demo. It's more preferable that buying a $150 game that turns out to be shit. That being said I've bought quite a few games I've emulated/pirated (Illbleed and Project Justice are the big 2) because I like playing it on the original console way more.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion