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Given the fact all 3 current consoles can be FTP'd into once running unsigned code makes a proprietary format completely pointless.
You can still get the data off the disc regardless, through FTP. :wacko:
It's a given all future consoles are going to have WiFi or an ethernet port meaning FTP will be possible if running unsigned code is.
You can also use a flash drive or external hard drive :wacko:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno.
I never said you could. But xbox games are not proprietary and can be read very easily using a normal dvd rom in a pc and wxripper. And even though kreon/0800 drives read the full disk, wxripper still reads and rips the image. Thats waht I meant, he made it out as if it was proprietary and needed a special DVD drive to read the games, that was the point I was saying was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno.
What you say also about ethernet ports is true too, that is another method to obtain an image. It is all about incentive to hack. Once they know there is a way to run the image, like through the psp memory stick or using the Wii's DVD rom capability, they will just start making a hack that dumps the games on the system then move it over to pc to be torrented, and run using the stated methods.
But I believe a really good proprietary disk. Something with holes in it or something where the disk stops and the laser reads to check if a hole is present and maybe commicates with the roof of the disk drive or something, then continues playing the game.. there is no way anyone could replicate this. And that on top of no hard drive/usb/memory card or ethernet input could possibly make a console hack proof. As no burnable media would be available and other disk formats can't be used, and no way to run an image, even if they somehow get an image of game.
A little far fetched, but do-able with a little imagination, I believe.
The game would have to pause at random.Quote:
Originally Posted by Constipated Rat
No, not if its in memory like most games run today.. when a games is reading from the disk it is really loading the memory with info to then be played. A buffer or something will help this happen.
Remember the future will make these very easy to implement.
Something like that could be very hard to hack, but if it was created by a person/group it can be hacked by another person/group.
PSP is a good example of this... Counterfeit UMD's themselves would cost more than its worth to replicate if at all yet a work around was foundQuote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
In 5 years, we will not be making any new games with expansive power. the gaming industry will NOT have the money for fancy new features and graphics. new video game systems will be designed to work like the old systems of the early/mid ninties. All of the new crap-ass "modern" games will be freeware, and the consoles will be sold at pawn shops for around $10-$20. nostalgia will be shined upon, and a new company will present itself, with a console with 24-32bit processing, fast paced graphics and hand-drawn pixle art, and over 500mb of content in every game disk/cart. the games will be long, dificult, and rewarding, allowing the player to develope real skills and challenge each other to a game of (insert new game here...)...
There would have to be an incentive to hack it. Like how would an image be played if it was got off one of the disks somehow?.. or how would they burn a game disk, since the originals are electric magnetically pressed when being produced.Quote:
Originally Posted by unnoticedninja
If it comes down to finding a way to burn or make a dupe disk, then it would have to be super precise, like right down to the hole being exactly at the right LBA on the disk etc... like I keep saying there is a way somehow to make it happen, it needs to be made so that its just too much of a big deal to hack. or will cost too much to make replica disk etc, ... different games can have different hole locations or something, again making it very complicated to make mass produced replica disks if they get around to that.
And the top of the disk drive could track with a second laser or something, then both lasers do a high five during "hole checks" then continue playing lol
virtual reality :l 'nuff said (if it does happen)
what do i think will happen? well all these stupid phones will wipe the mobile market with thier short apps instead of actual games (hence why i wll never get one as the thrill wears off on them very quickly) also i see sony comming out with a new playstation model and microsoft doing the same, basicly both working alittle better (hopefully) than the current models. every game will still be on most of the systems so it doesnt matter which one you get, sony will have most rpg and microsoft will have crappy fps games that are only good online where all the assholes are. we will have a new gta, new pokemon game for the 3ds before it blows over. the ps vita will see some ps2 titles but not many and dmc will oficially die (why did they have to slaughter dante, why?)
Smells like pessimism:fart:Quote:
Originally Posted by garrendesares
I do happen to agree, replace dante with zero and I could've typed that.
That's what this thread is all about. Oh and people like rabidmedia that were clearly drunk posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiny
I wasn't drunk, just really high... as a kite...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
Where do I see gaming in five years?
Exactly where it is now.