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11th-November-2011, 02:31
Tanthias

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Originally Posted by Ivolt

Ahahahahaha oh Fate Extra.

Which reminds me I still need to get a new PSP. But then again, the Vita's coming out, so fuck that. Unless I get one for free. Which I may.

Also, my am I just hearing this PSN policy change. FUCK and things of that nature. How will I not pay for things now?

Time to steal things from everyone.

By coordinating with people and activating on 2 consoles, deactivating one when somebody finishes?

Though as Ray said, that means no more 3 player co-op shares after the 18th :(
11th-November-2011, 02:32
Raype

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Originally Posted by Ivolt

Ahahahahaha oh Fate Extra.

Which reminds me I still need to get a new PSP. But then again, the Vita's coming out, so fuck that. Unless I get one for free. Which I may.

Also, my am I just hearing this PSN policy change. FUCK and things of that nature. How will I not pay for things now?

Time to steal things from everyone.

Free Vita? Tell me your secrets, man of manhattan.

Technically speaking, that's what you were doing before the policy change. :wacko:

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Originally Posted by Ivolt

I'm so glad I don't give a fuck about the things the rest of you give a fuck about.

LOOK AT ALL THIS ENJOYMENT I'M HAVING.

Who said I give a fuck? To me, she'll always be my little 遠坂.
11th-November-2011, 02:33
Ivolt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanthias

By coordinating with people and activating on 2 consoles, deactivating one when somebody finishes?

Though as Ray said, that means no more 3 player co-op shares after the 18th :(

We should have like a lash hurrah or something.

Granted, my mic is all sorts of dead, but shit, WE'LL DO IT ANYWAY.
11th-November-2011, 02:36
Sprung

I'm on vacation :awesome:

Don't go back to work till the 21st. Work 3 days, then off thurs and fri for Thanksgiving :]
11th-November-2011, 02:37
Ivolt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raype

Free Vita? Tell me your secrets, man of manhattan.

Technically speaking, that's what you were doing before the policy change. :wacko:

Who said I give a fuck? To me, she'll always be my little 遠坂.

I actually meant a free PSP. But I have friends in positions of get me free shit. Because that's how I roll.

True. On an unfortunate note, this means I won't be able to get us Vagrant Story or Threads of Fate on time. Well, I'll have it. Then I'll craft weaponry incorrectly. It'll be just like now.
11th-November-2011, 02:37
Ivolt

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Originally Posted by Sprung

I'm on vacation :awesome:

Don't go back to work till the 21st. Work 3 days, then off thurs and fri for Thanksgiving :]

Weren't you just on vacation, like, 2-3 months ago?
11th-November-2011, 02:38
Tanthias

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivolt

We should have like a lash hurrah or something.

Granted, my mic is all sorts of dead, but shit, WE'LL DO IT ANYWAY.

Just to be sure/clear up any misconception I may have caused, we can still play things like Dungeon Hunter 3-way after the 18th, it's just the stuff that may be bought after we can't :P
11th-November-2011, 02:38
Raype

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Originally Posted by Tanthias

Just to be sure/clear up any misconception I may have cuased, we can still play things like Dungeon Hunter 3-way after the 18th, it's just the stuff that may be bought after we can't :P

Correct.

Also, my vacation is 4 days.

SUCK IT PAPA JOHN.
11th-November-2011, 02:39
Sprung

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Originally Posted by Ivolt

Weren't you just on vacation, like, 2-3 months ago?

Yeah. I get 3 weeks a year.
11th-November-2011, 02:39
Tanthias

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raype

Correct.

Also, my vacation is 4 days.

SUCK IT PAPA JOHN.

Weren't you planning to make them anyway?
11th-November-2011, 02:40
Ivolt

No, I know that.

Wait, if we can de/re-activate consoles on one account, it could still work. It'd just be inconvenient as shit.

But we're EP, nothing comes easy.

Except for Ray.
11th-November-2011, 02:40
Sprung

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Originally Posted by Raype

Correct.

Also, my vacation is 4 days.

SUCK IT PAPA JOHN.

4 whole days?

wow
11th-November-2011, 02:42
Raype

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sprung

4 whole days?

wow

Shit, I totally read that wrong.

Whatever, I'm still taller.

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Originally Posted by Ivolt

No, I know that.

Wait, if we can de/re-activate consoles on one account, it could still work. It'd just be inconvenient as shit.

But we're EP, nothing comes easy.

Except for Ray.

Hey, the way that chick was bagging cans got me all bothered and hot.

It's not my fault!
11th-November-2011, 02:44
Tanthias

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivolt

No, I know that.

Wait, if we can de/re-activate consoles on one account, it could still work. It'd just be inconvenient as shit.

But we're EP, nothing comes easy.

Except for Ray.

That's how I'm understanding the deactivation through PC they're going to give.
11th-November-2011, 02:46
Ivolt

So tan, how's your game coming along?

In fact, how you been? It's like I haven't talked to you guys in months.
11th-November-2011, 02:47
skullpoker

Steam got hacked.

Trying to make this VERY visible in case any of you have been effected.
11th-November-2011, 02:49
Colamisu

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Originally Posted by Raype

Myth. Several developers later came out stating that it was a load of BS used by certain companies as an excuse for releasing inferior PS3 ports.

And the rest is hilarity.

Not entirely a myth. It's not that coding for the PS3 is hard, it's that coding for the 360 is negligible. It runs on Microsoft's XNA, which is just C++ in a fancy package. So make the PC game, then all you have to do is change the input and recompile for 360. That's why the indie scene is so big on the 360 (even if half of it is ZOMBIES, MINECRAFTCLONEDUDEITOTALLYHADTHISIDEABEFOREMINECRA FTCAMEOUT, or "massagers").

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Originally Posted by Shardnax

Not only that, some people even go so far as to declare a fan translation as superior.

Clearly all game companies should just go the XSEED route. If there's a good fan translation out there that people like, just buy it. Don't bother trying to make your own that has conflicting wording or spelling or whatever.

So totally unrelated, but ooh-wee-ooh. Killer Tofu.
11th-November-2011, 02:49
Tanthias

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivolt

So tan, how's your game coming along?

In fact, how you been? It's like I haven't talked to you guys in months.

It appears to have turned into a one man project again. Haven't heard back from any (wait, I take that back, one person responded) when I was asking the others about their opinion on the best route with the infection mechanic. I still haven't abandoned it, though, and posted a first draft of the first two journal entries in my EP blog.

Not bad. How about you, man?
11th-November-2011, 02:51
Ivolt

I died and then came back to life.

Then I made the 2 worst class schedule ever.

So I'm doing about the same as usual.
11th-November-2011, 02:52
Raype

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colamisu

Clearly all game companies should just go the XSEED route. If there's a good fan translation out there that people like, just buy it. Don't bother trying to make your own that has conflicting wording or spelling or whatever.

There's a couple that have tried that recently.

It's had....mixed results.

By "mixed", I mean "the fanbase ends up feeling like the translator is a sellout and the publisher is holding the product hostage".

In all fairness. usually they are and they do.
11th-November-2011, 02:53
Colamisu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivolt

I died and then came back to life.

Then I made the 2 worst class schedule ever.

So I'm doing about the same as usual.

I have three classes I need to take at least two of in the next two semesters, and the third by the third semester. None have been offered for the past 3 semesters. :brow:
11th-November-2011, 02:57
Mistral

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Originally Posted by Raype

A character's name could be translated using one of two characters.

There's a widely praised fan translation of some earlier work that used one variant, while the official localization of this game opted to use the translation that made sense to them. Flying in the face of the fact that said fan translation pretty much established numerous spellings and terminologies for all future fan translations of the material.

Not many people were particularly happy about it.

At least they didn't do Toosaka, because JSL in a Hepburn world = hilarity. Putting the long o as "oh" is officially permissible by the government, but really, no standard romanization system does it.

Ah, fans, how do we love thee.
11th-November-2011, 02:59
Slacker Magician

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Originally Posted by skullpoker

Steam got hacked.

Trying to make this VERY visible in case any of you have been effected.

They said there was no evidence of credit card info being taken.
11th-November-2011, 03:00
Slacker Magician

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Originally Posted by Sprung

I'm on vacation :awesome:

Don't go back to work till the 21st. Work 3 days, then off thurs and fri for Thanksgiving :]

Woooo! What are you going to do?
11th-November-2011, 03:01
Ivolt

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Originally Posted by Colamisu

I have three classes I need to take at least two of in the next two semesters, and the third by the third semester. None have been offered for the past 3 semesters. :brow:

Witchcraft and devilry. Tell them to stop toying with your emotions. Also, what you need to do to take those classes, as thats horse-shit.
11th-November-2011, 03:01
Sprung

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Originally Posted by Shardnax

Woooo! What are you going to do?

Drink beer and play games :]
11th-November-2011, 03:02
Slacker Magician

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivolt

I'm so glad I don't give a fuck about the things the rest of you give a fuck about.

LOOK AT ALL THIS ENJOYMENT I'M HAVING.

Pirating games means I have zero complaints about any problems, which I assume are related to the cracks.
11th-November-2011, 03:02
Slacker Magician

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Originally Posted by Sprung

Drink beer and play games :]

Good plan :wacko:.
11th-November-2011, 03:02
skullpoker

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Originally Posted by Shardnax

They said there was no evidence of credit card info being taken.

True, but until they say CC numbers were definitely NOT taken, spread the word, please?
11th-November-2011, 03:03
Sprung

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Originally Posted by Shardnax

Good plan :wacko:.

I have already begin'd :P
11th-November-2011, 03:05
Colamisu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raype

There's a couple that have tried that recently.

It's had....mixed results.

By "mixed", I mean "the fanbase ends up feeling like the translator is a sellout and the publisher is holding the product hostage".

In all fairness. usually they are and they do.

I had a long reply typed out, but I think it's better to just say that I sincerely disagree with that line of thought. It's selling a finished product that was never intended to be sold, like making dreamcatchers as a hobby and having someone see it in your window and offer cash for it. If it were something like the fan translator doing the game because they think a company will buy it, or using Woolseyisms simply because they think the company wants it, fine. That's a sellout. But serendipity isn't selling out.
11th-November-2011, 03:07
Ivolt

Threads I made have been updated.

This call for...action.
11th-November-2011, 03:07
Colamisu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivolt

Witchcraft and devilry. Tell them to stop toying with your emotions. Also, what you need to do to take those classes, as thats horse-shit.

Yeah, I'm going to talk to my adviser tomorrow and see if they changed the catalog on me again this year. I needed to get my transfer credit and choosing electives taken care of anyway.
11th-November-2011, 03:07
Slacker Magician

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raype

There's a couple that have tried that recently.

It's had....mixed results.

By "mixed", I mean "the fanbase ends up feeling like the translator is a sellout and the publisher is holding the product hostage".

In all fairness. usually they are and they do.

Which is stupid.
11th-November-2011, 03:07
Raype

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colamisu

I had a long reply typed out, but I think it's better to just say that I sincerely disagree with that line of thought. It's selling a finished product that was never intended to be sold, like making dreamcatchers as a hobby and having someone see it in your window and offer cash for it. If it were something like the fan translator doing the game because they think a company will buy it, or using Woolseyisms simply because they think the company wants it, fine. That's a sellout. But serendipity isn't selling out.

Yeah, here's the thing:

Several have actively sought out companies that pay for fan translations and then say "NOPE, WE AREN'T RELEASING ANY MORE PATCHES. AND THE ONES WE HAD ARE TAKEN DOWN. IF WE SEE YOU POST IT ANYWHERE, EXPECT A CALL FROM OUR LAWYER'

In other instances the second the talks "start". they begin translating exclusively for profit.
11th-November-2011, 03:10
Mistral

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raype

Yeah, here's the thing:

Several have actively sought out companies that pay for fan translations and then say "NOPE, WE AREN'T RELEASING ANY MORE PATCHES. AND THE ONES WE HAD ARE TAKEN DOWN. IF WE SEE YOU POST IT ANYWHERE, EXPECT A CALL FROM OUR LAWYER'

In other instances the second the talks "start". they begin translating exclusively for profit.

True, but I've never really understood the appeal of the "starving artist" schtick, and frankly, building a portfolio with the intention of getting hired isn't a bad thing at all, in art as in programming and translation. At least they make their portfolio publicly and freely available until they sell their product, which is better than keeping it hidden. It also lets companies pick out products that appeal to the target audience in advance, rather than taking their best guess from marketing trends.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivolt

Threads I made have been updated.

This call for...action.

PbP Meguca game? :angel:
11th-November-2011, 03:13
Slacker Magician

Quote:

Originally Posted by skullpoker

True, but until they say CC numbers were definitely NOT taken, spread the word, please?

Didn't Steam send the info out to every user, or was it just an announcement on the main page?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sprung

I have already begin'd :P

Speedy :lol.
11th-November-2011, 03:14
Slacker Magician

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raype

Yeah, here's the thing:

Several have actively sought out companies that pay for fan translations and then say "NOPE, WE AREN'T RELEASING ANY MORE PATCHES. AND THE ONES WE HAD ARE TAKEN DOWN. IF WE SEE YOU POST IT ANYWHERE, EXPECT A CALL FROM OUR LAWYER'

In other instances the second the talks "start". they begin translating exclusively for profit.

The company owns the rights and has licensing for the game, they can do whatever they please. If I was fluent in Japanese, I'd do it.
11th-November-2011, 03:15
Raype

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Originally Posted by Mistral

True, but I've never really understood the appeal of the "starving artist" schtick, and frankly, building a portfolio with the intention of getting hired isn't a bad thing at all, in art as in programming and translation. At least they make their portfolio publicly and freely available until they sell their product, which is better than keeping it hidden. It also lets companies pick out products that appeal to the target audience in advance, rather than taking their best guess from marketing trends.

What about when the product hasn't been sold?

And then no one gets the product. Ever.

Even when it's been completed and ready to go for ages.

What? Me? Bitter? Nope!

:wacko:
11th-November-2011, 03:15
Ivolt

If I can manage to run a game over the internet and keep my sanity, I will.

Then again, if I can run the most idiotic game of Dark Heresy and not shoot half my new players, I can do anything.

Well, short of keeping them alive anymore, fuck that shit.

They will all die, and it will be recorded, and you'll all know how bad of a GM I am, and it will be glorious.

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