I guess we have to rely more on torrents now. Does EmuParadise have all the stuff on torrents as well?
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I guess we have to rely more on torrents now. Does EmuParadise have all the stuff on torrents as well?
It starts with one site, then another and another. Then other places take to it and follow. Check this out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lXau4TDt7M and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zfj6...ayer_embedded#!
@gezegond torrents are worse easier to track. And those site will be affected too.
This is like a reality show. When it finish people will go to do something else. Well, the U.S. Justice Department shut down the MegaUpload site during an investigation into alleged copyright infringement. What happens now with all the data (games, soundtracks, scans, retromags collection...)?
http://www.retromags.com/forums/topi...n-unavailable/
I don`t know what is the problem, because gentlemen like the ones in retromags are preserving a part of video game history by scanning printed papers or documents in format of magazines, comics, art books, strategy guides and more that don`t exist anymore. Why generalize attack...? Why not an specific one...? The "department of justice" just point there fingers and say erased everything from this and that. How lazy they can be... Oh well, shits happens... To hell with the devil... What comes around goes around... Whatever!!! Power to the people and gamers alike. Don`t surrender! :objection!: :censored:
lillito-san
they're doing this so they can be the ones to upload everything (music,movies,games) on the web and then charge people out the @SS for it all...
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. . .too many people who have no knowledge of Anon, DDOS, or whatever will get caught up in the crapstorm. The last thing we need is a giant justification for the government to pass SOPA and who knows what else. All this does give the government ammo in February. From what I hear, SOPA will be reintroduced. The bill was defeated through legitimate means - the Internet Strike, contacting various members of the Legislative Branch, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SegNin
If we ever want to keep these kind of Draconian/Machiavellian law from ever passing then take the proverbial High Road. Protecting our Rights should never have a 'Means Justify The Ends' mentality because sooner or later it will not end well for us.
next thing you know we'll be forced to BUY ROMS
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:dead: Hi US this is Possnfiffer , your new name is now "The Situation" cause you're just like that punk ass Mike from Jersey shore. 2012 isn't the end of the world or the end of the internet, it's the world wide revolution against the powers that be and a true community of people with knowledge and skills to create and do whatever they put their minds to. we'll be here doing our business and you can investigate all you want , ENJOY!
Read this it looks that sopa , pipa and others one aren't the worst : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Co...rade_Agreement
http://gizmodo.com/5877836/why-did-t...ad-and-why-now
It says here that they did it to show off their power.
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Originally Posted by Molly Wood
Not impossible they just want to made internet their "slave" , that would give them money , and if they need to say f*ck to freedom they will do it , this is how our world is now , do anything for money whenever it's goog or not , and this is sad :(
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It seems this doesn't matter, because both PIPA and SOPA are on hold nearly for good.
The question is, did the creators knew about all that copyrighted stuff and reacted accordingly, everytime the copyright holders made a copyright claim? I remember the time when Rapidshare were still the kings of 1 click webhosting. They won every court case thrown at them. It was simply because they can't control every freaking file uploaded at their servers. But they can easily remove those files, if copyright holders notify them about it.
Pfft. Chill out. I live in a place where even the Maddox blog is blocked by government filter!
Apparently from what was posted in the thread, some employees knew their was pirated stuff and bragged and boasted about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evermore
If I was on the list of what could be shutdown, say Youtube or Facebook, I would be looking into moving servers. I assume American companies can move their servers and be ok from this.
And America just keeps exporting jobs due to rules and regulations.
What is stopping them from closing youtube? People post links to download songs and movies. Shoot, you can download add-ons for that stuff. Same thing with Facebook, Myspace, ect. They can just deem that it is not a safe site like they did with MU and shut it down.
Besides, piracy mostly happens in 3rd world countries. I believe the US is on the bottom of the list.
Wrong. Most third world countries don't have easily available internet access. Ask a Somali to show you Pirate Bay and I'm sure it'll be different to your understanding. The US, due to its huge population, is probably 2nd or 3rd on the list behind China and India.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizard81288
The US population is a lot larger than most countries, save a few. Even if the percentage is low, I imagine the actual number of people is relatively high.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizard81288
Or D can beat me to it.
I'm saying that this does matter, because PIPA and SOPA are not the problem. The problem is what they let the copyright holders do: Take down whole websites for hosting user uploaded infringing material. They just showed that they can do this even without SOPA and PIPA. They did this to emphasize that they are in control of the internet, and people should just obey. They possibly did this to show off their power. That's an old trick used by oppressors to prevent protests. How could this not matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
I believe this is even more important than the SOPA and PIPA. Because people could object to those, but no one can object to this. It is already the law. A law that gives the copyright holder power to put people in prison for the crime of providing communication services to people. This means any communications provider on the internet who doesn't spy on all the users and actively monitoring every single post for copyright infringement could suffer.
Heck, they could just barge in into any forum, say "admins knew people were talking about piracy but did nothing to stop them", then seize all their assets and put them in prison without giving them a chance of being heard, Effectively killing free speech. What's worse is that they can do it without SOPA.
It's good that SOPA is almost gone, but to me, SOPA wasn't the start of it. To me, it was when they charged PirateBay founders for "enabling people to infringe copyrights". Just what the heck does "enabling" mean? All they did was that they provided torrent users a communication tool and did not actively self censor themselves.
To make this more understandable, consider this hypothetical situation:
Imagine someone asking you where he can find the nearest bank. You tell him it's just down the road. The man says thanks and goes away and you go home. The man enters a bank, pulls of a robbery, and leaves. The police can't find the bank robber, so instead they come to your house, arrest you, and put you in prison for "enabling someone to perform a bank robbery". And to make thing even worse, you don't get to defend yourself.
Pretty crazy, eh? This is already part of the law, and it's called ProIP. They used this very law to take down MU. They didn't actually infringe anyone's copyright. They just provided a communication tool and did not actively self censor themselves, at least in MPAA's standards. That was enough to put people in jail.
If you read the wikipedia article, you can see that Lamar Smith was one of it's supporters, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation was in opposition. The difference is that back then no one cared, so this became a law.
I think governments having enough power to take away the freedom of speech and take down simple communication tools in name of protecting copyright holder's rights defiantly falls into the category of "important".
...uh, it is theft. Cause you're effectively using a version you did not properly pay for. File Sharing is different from normal sharing because it usually goes on a much grander scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coraje187
It's just not as massive as they say it is.
Because Megaupload is a group that had this coming by simply having Megavideo, a service that got them money via copyrighted material they had no right to stream with premium services. That is pretty disgusting and isn't simple file sharing, that's the online equal to bootleg copies sales but with the genuine article, just in much lower quality. Now if they went after someone less scummy, that would raise my radar, but this wasn't simple muscle flexing, this is a long case against generally scummy business practices that directly profited off of copyrighted material.Quote:
Originally Posted by gezegond
We're never going to have a case in our favor if we defend outright criminal activity like that. That's not defending file sharing, which can be a useful service and our main defense, that's defending scam artists.
Consider where you're saying these things. It doesn't make it any less illegal if profit isn't being had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
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Originally Posted by D
Actually, No. This is a chart showing "Software piracy rate by country". Although it's just software piracy and it's showed in percentages, you can still see that US is the very last one with the least amount of piracy. This is an article about piracy in developing countries. It is pretty much an accepted fact that the majority of piracy happens in third world countries. I actually had read more solid evidence sometime ago, but can't seem to find it right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
Theft has a definite legal meaning that's different from "using a version you did not properly pay for". This could fall under either "copyright infringement" or "fair use", a judge will decide which. Using copyrighted material without paying for them is not illegal in itself as it could fall under fair use. This is very different than theft. Theft is just a label the MAFIAA uses to exaggerate the crime and confuse folks like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
That's my point, Mu did not upload those movies, the users did. The only wrong MU has done is to offer good services. This naturally attracts people who would abuse these services, and that's not MU's fault. Just creating a streaming website does not make you "disgusting", this is what the MAFIAA want people to think, that communications enablers are "scum" and "disgusting". There are definitions for what theft and copyright infringement is, it's not as simple as that, just calling them names and voila! Now it's okay to censor the internet. The significance here is not MegaUpload, it's what the government is capable of. If they could do this to MU, next time they might come at your door and put you in prison for watching a movie with some of your buddies without them "properly payed for it". My concerns lies within the methods, not the victims. The victims can be anyone, and you can rant all day about who could deserve this more. That doesn't change the fact that something very wrong is going on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
You see, service providers are not criminals, and I'm not defending criminal activity. I'm defending the freedom of speech, the freedom of communication, and the freedom of internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
to liven the mood (thank Gypsy)
http://i.imgur.com/rkXWE.jpg
My comment was purely speculation. I don't know how much movie/game piracy factors into that study though. Here's the link to the study they sourced: http://global.bsa.org/idcglobalstudy2007/Quote:
Originally Posted by gezegond
It was kinda funny, but what happens after the "anoni-dinobirds's" entrance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme Warrior
(It just ends there... :pwacko:)
But that is an interesting way to view this whole thing...
("and by a downloader? Aye!" :LOL:)
Have you not seen LotR: Return of the King?Quote:
Originally Posted by foggy_han
No... :PPQuote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
So, what happens next? ^^'
It's lesser and not as big of an issue it's made out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
Now when you make it a service, that's pure greed motivation.
Eh? That's the one I was referring to. If you view the pdf file "Summary of Findings" you see that US has a 20% piracy rate which lower than all other countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shardnax
what is this I don't even...Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme Warrior
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/20/es...port-for-sopa/
The ESA has dropped support.
This fucker is dead in the water. :]
Meh. Could be worse. I'm sad as I lost 7 gigs of a story I've been working on for the past four years.
But hey! Even if they take down all the file sharing sites, new ones will just pop up.
The government's slow. Copyright before the internet age meant something. Now, artists will upload a few free songs now and again and then complain about lack of sales. Here's an idea: If you don't want it to pirated, don't give it to the public. As simple as that. Piracy's always going to be around but the way the US goverment is dealing with it right now is a bunch of BS on another scale all to itself.
good use of the ROTK there warrior/gypsy!
EXIA - remember mixtapes n copied vhs?
I remember copied VHS tapes, yep. I think I still have a few. But see, I've been gradually uploading stuff for the past four years onto it. The majority however came from when my old laptop went and died about two years ago. (Trust me when I say Staples Business Depot has crappy customer service. Asshats fried my motherboard and harddrive. "It's your charger," my ass.) I only have a few files on this computer, most of it being rough concept art, insert song lyrics, some character bios and a few chapters here and there. Most of the files were however on my old desktop but that went last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majinkura
It's pro work, I lol'd hard when I first saw it.
You people really need to watch LOTR if you haven't. Unless you are female...and heck...even then watch it anyway. :awesome:
I've seen all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
and read the novels except twin towers.
Is there anyone who hasn't seen LotR? I mean, it was all the rage a few years back.
No wonder you got the title wrong. :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemesis
I thought about trolling nem, decided to pass.
And apparently the people that didn't get that image haven't seen it. I've always been a fan.
Twin, two, whatever. Been a while since I've seen it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gare
You mean there are people who don't get that image. Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
I'm not really a fan of LotR, but the movies are fine.
Yeah I can admit I'm pretty nerdy on it. Overall I was happy with the movies though, I'm not that guy that wrote long blogs about how OMG THE MOVIES SUCK PETER JACKSON IS A MONSTER.