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right............ lol well erm i think illa void going there then :P thanks anyway though lololQuote:
Originally Posted by Xena
oh yea additional note were trying to extend the indexing to hardware as well as software seen as most official sony ps1/ps2[s[ products actually have similar product codes .... (as if just doing the games wasnt enough)
Well heres the pics, the pics thats really small is the definate ZZZ_unknown title
its SLPS 03480
and im guessing its title is Worldwide strongest silver star go 2
in English but im not 100% sure.
the second one is the one im not sure about, i dont have the code for it
And i cant find it on the list, my friend said it was called
'aim at a distinguish baseball team' i searched all the baseball games
on gamefaq's and i could not find a cover like this so im guessing its another
ZZZ_Unkown, though its not much use till i can get the code.
Cred to Hayato1 For the SLPS 03480 pic.
'aim at a distinguish baseball team' is actually
SLPS-01911 : Mezase! Meimon Yakyubu [J] and it's already on the Master List.
http://www.playstation.jp/products/title/slps01911.html
Cool! I guess,Quote:
Originally Posted by SegNin
Its difficult since my friend translates everything into english words,
were as the master list just has them in english carecters.
EDIT - The title of the ZZZ_Unkown jap game is : Great SHOGI 2
Cred goes to Hayato1 for the tranlation. ;)
Found another PAL game not on the list -
Courier Crisis
PAL UK
SLES 00326
Only the USA and JAP versions are on the list.
We need a list of PS2 games, now.
There is one here http://www.illusionoflife.com/Sony_Index/index.htm :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingGnats
How did I never notice the PS2 section before... It's obviously not as complete cause I spotted some stuff on it just skimming :wacko:
Missing:
GunGrave: OverDose SLUS-21020
Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland SLUS-20251
Messed up stuff:
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time, SLUS-20488 is disc 1, SLUS-20891 is disc 2
PlayStation Underground 4.3 & 4.4 are plain messed/mixed up. 4.4 Disc 2 is the only PS2 one, it's stock number is SCUS-97121/PDSS-000705.
Edit, just noticed Harvest Moon is there. It's just mislabled as Back To Nature ^^;;;
wow i dont look for 2 days and people post like crazy :P ill work on getting the new additions sorted and the corrections will be passed on as well thanks to all :)
hey akuma thanks for that cover links site im raking through it now looking for additional serials that are missing ive allready found a couple :)
We're not done yet:P Okay, I know this game exists for the PSX, but I wasn't able to get a serial number for it since I couldn't get any pics of the back of the box, although I did find 4 different covers. I do believe it was only a PAL release, and I wasn't able to find it even on the www.playstation.com global site. If anyone knows what the serial number (numbers?) is please post it! Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by topaz
No problem dude;)Quote:
Originally Posted by topaz
hehe i remember see'ing black and white in catalogues BUT ive never acctually seen a real copy of it i belive it was withdrawn and never released but dont quote me on that it might just be ultra rare
The one at the bottom right seems like a japanese realease. Just because of the layout of the logos.
BTW it got canceled for USA, I wonder why myself. :shrug:
It got released in europe apparently though.
well around the time it was "released" over here in uk i was working and never saw a single copy of it in shop i was in and we used to do trades etc for about a year afterwards not a single one was spotted and not even the guy i got my games from had it which kinda sucked coz i wanted it due to seeing pc reveiws of it when i tried to get it from catalogue they said it wasnt stocked and they couldnt get hold of it :S
Well, I just checked GameFAQs and according to them this game was cancelled. Interesting. But I'd bet this game might have been smuggled out and on to the net at one point, like Thrill Kill was. Hmmmmm. It's odd that there was 4 different covers though.Quote:
Originally Posted by topaz
i know of the classic black and white covers as there the ones i saw in the catalogues , the other one (bottom left) might have been the manual's cover perhaps? .... or considering it never really made it into production they could all be early runs lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Akuma
Or maybe covers got released because the game was to be announced, then the company stopped the project, but the covers were already made so someone put them on the net.
Just a theory.
who knows how these big companies work ... all i know for sure is they do everything possible to shaft the gamers :PQuote:
Originally Posted by polobunny
Yeah, GameFAQs also had a TBA thing in there for the Euro release. Midas Interactive Entertainment was the company that was supposed to release it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by polobunny
Midas doesnt even show the game in their released list. I guess it wasn't released anywhere. ;_;
I want black and white PAL beta 1.0 :wacko:
Looks like it's time to turn to our good friends on the p2p networks:PQuote:
Originally Posted by polobunny
Quote:
Originally Posted by polobunny
im gonna be over demanding ... I WANT A BLACK AND WHITE PAL RETAIL!!! lolol (ok ok kinda unrealistic but i can dream)
really we all might as well just get the pc version lol
I think I've solved the question of what SLPS-03480 should be called.
The title screen shows this game was developed by Silver Star Japan (picture below)
The page below lists 3 games made for the PS2 by that company:
Sekai Ginboshi Shogi 4
Sekai Saikyou Ginboshi Igo 5
Sekai Saikyou Ginboshi Igo 6
http://games.ign.com/objects/689/689006.html#Developer
This page shows the title screen of a game that strongly resembles the title screen of SLPS-03480 (compare the pictures below):
http://www.silverstar.co.jp/02produc...o3/ps_igo3.htm
Note how that link has ps_igo3 in it.
According to this page, Sekai Saikyou Ginboshi Igo 5 is also known as both Sekai Saikyou Ginsei Igo 5 and Sekai Saikyou Silverstar Igo 5
http://ps2.ign.com/objects/689/689008.html
Since the master list already has 2 games listed called:
SLPS-03325 : Sekai Saikyou Ginsei Igo [J]
SLPS-03563 : Sekai Saikyou Ginsei Igo 3 [J]
Then I guess we should go with Ginsei over Ginboshi.
Which means the official Master List entry for this game would be:
SLPS-03480 : Sekai Saikyou Ginsei Igo 2 [J]
Thank you Segnin.
That sounds about right to me since its an igo game.
But ill be keeping games that are brand new in that condition in future....
Simple Characters 2000 Series #09 - Tsuri Kichi Sanpei - The Tsuri [SLPS-03445]
SLPM-80567
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1807/psogl0016hb.jpg
something 'kougien' i guess
...
i dig up kougien is games catalog or magazine and this cd was with it
on summer 2k
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:0...+kougien&hl=en
hm anyone can answer this?
is SCPS normally used in the the olden days? before SLPS.
i found that i have some amount of games having SCPS along 45k+ which is skipped in the list of http://www.illusionoflife.com/Sony_I...Jap_serial.htm
there seems to hav alot jump of serial number in 45k+ is there another site consist of games with the oldest serial? like SCPS-450++ completed
ok as for the lettering and what it meens in a serial this is what we know so farQuote:
Originally Posted by hayato1
These serials are incredibly useful for labelling SCE products
for filesharing and identifying file properties. Not sure what a
serial code looks like for SCE products? They look like this:-
SCES_000.01 (Displayed as SCES-00001 on covers, books)
The purpose of this text is to teach you what each segment
of this code means and the benefits of using them in your
filenames as a suffix.
++ 1st letter -- Storage Media.
S = Sony commercial CD-R, Sony DVD-R 5, Sony DVD-R 9.
U = Universal Media Disc (Utilized by Sony PlayStation Portable aka. PSP).
P = Promotional media.
++ 2nd letter -- License Information.
C = Licensed and Distributed by SCEA / SCEE / SCEI.
I = Licensed by SCEI and distributed by overseas 3rd party.
L = Licensed by SCEA / SCEE / SCEI and distributed by a 3rd party locally.
B = ???? (Help us with this we would most appreciate it!)
++ 3rd letter -- Software Region.
E = Europe & United Kingdom.
J/ P = Japan/ Asia (J substitutes P for PSP software titles).
U = North America/ Canada.
++ 4th letter -- Software Type.
D = Software demo(s).
M = Developed in Malaysia.
S = Full version software.
X = only really on demo's (Help us with this we would most appreciate it!)
as for there being a more complete list i dont belive there is one i know there isnt a complete list online whichc is why were trying to make one so any submission of titles that arent on the list would be very helpfull thanks
P.S ty again chemabus
Hmmm, maybe you could check here http://www.playstation.jp/. I can't read japanese, but maybe you could? I dunno...Quote:
Originally Posted by hayato1
BTW- I thought this thread was stickied before...
lol yea it "was" but the mods decided it didnt need to be and there are too many stickys in the trading post section etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Akuma
but never mind at least the tread aint been deleted lol
yea yea akuma they are too old to be listed in playstation.jp
i visit that jp site more than 20 times a day to update my list haha.
example of those weirdo numbers are.
SCPS-45027 - Wild Arms (no in official jp web, but on illusion list)
SCPS-45268 - XI[s�i]: Alea jacta est! - Julius Caesar (B.C.100 - B.C.44) - (not on all google yahoo, msn engine) lol
SCPS-45079 Zero Divide 2 -The Secret Wish- (not in anywhere)
SCPS-45510 The Legend of the Condor Heroes (not in anywhere)
SCPS-45163 Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon (not in .jp, but in illusion list)
theres more when i come across last month during i update my list, because i couldn't find them i thought they are fake ID so never record down, but untill yesterday i find out they are real exisiting ID but just not listed anywhere
http://www.playstation.jp/products/title/scps10051.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by hayato1
found this for the above title its acctually the japanese version of devil dice
(misc info XI[s�i]: Alea jacta est! translates to 6 the die is cast)
also can u double check SCPS-45510 The Legend of the Condor Heroes isnt acctually SCPS-45510 Shachou Eiyuuden - The Eagle Shooting Heroes
as thats what it translates to when we checked it
yup i mean there is another verison for XI[s�i] not SCPS-10051
SCPS-45510 Shachou Eiyuuden -is in chinese traditional txt, chinese simlify txt, chinese dub
SCPS-10139 Shachou Eiyuuden -is japanese txt, chinese traditional txt, and ? dub.
haha i know they are there in .jp with a different id,
but..hm i thought if some site who actually listed entire SCPS-45000++ in their master list for me to refer.^^
This database has been an invaluable tool to me in sorting through games in my collection, but I think it's lacking something that I would like to see added. Two very important things to collectors are version numbers and TOC (table of contents) sizes in bytes. I realize this would be alot of work, but everyone contributing what they can when they have time can really help this database out more.
My reasoning is this: Developers make subtle, and not so subtle, changes to source code to fix bugs/glitches/etc. and repress and rerelease the game. Take Gran Turismo 2 for example. We all know the original had only the bug with the drag racing and completion %. Sony fixed it and put out another version, then later released yet another version to fix the car wash bug. There are at least 3 versions of GT2 out there... and there's no easy way to tell which version you have without actually playing the game. Same deal with PS2. the GTA series comes to mind first, especially San Andreas.
So how can we determine versions? Simple.
For PS1:
Simply insert your disc into a drive, or mount it in Daemon. Grab a text or hex editor and open the ID file. For example, I'm using Touge Max 2 (J) [SLPS-01574], and will be opening the SLPS_015.74 file.
Close to the top, is an $Id tag. Information after the tag gives version number, and the date and time file was created. Getting TOC size is even simpler, just right click on the inserted (or mounted) disc and select properties. Record the number of bytes it says are being used.
So for Touge Max 2 (J) [SLPS-01574], the version I have is v1.140 with a TOC size of 472,141,824 bytes.
This could be the first and only version to be released, or it could be a bug fixed version we would never know about. My point is that as collectors we need to know this information. All other console ROM sets keep track of version numbers.
For PS2:
Even easier for PS2. Version number can be found by first insterting or mounting the disc or ISO, and opening the SYSTEM.CNF file in a text editor, and look for the VER tag. TOC size in bytes is the same as PS1, and for any CD based system.
I'm using Rez (U) [SLUS-20344] as my example. I open the SYSTEM.CNF and find that my Rez is v1.01 with a TOC of 200,955,904.
So, as a collector of PS1 and PS2, these are my two cents. I would really like to see this added, and would gladly contribute what I can when I have the time. I mean, we just don't know how many versions are really out there. I would like to know what everyone else thinks about this.
i think it is quite hard for him to update the actual size of the game since he actually dunhave them all. there is atleast 5000 or above games there it might take 2 years to update the size thou............ but your idea is cool huh......... give everyone a idea that our psx list should contain more information. well i post this to thanks your sugestion i will update my collection list with those stuff next if i ever complete my list.....! (haha)
edit: i open xena's herny expl and i got this
ut_f.c,v 1.3 1995/08/23 06:29:32 ayako
about the size it could be hard as it couldn't be copied. i wonder if theres any tools around can export FULL TOC contents lik .CCD without sub and img, in it's any form, like on solid disc.
I've personally never seen a program that will return the TOC size of an image, but I was thinking that ISOBuster might be able to do this. I'm not at my computer ATM so I can't check. I admit, TOC size is rather difficult due to there being rips floating around, as well as ISOs created from CD-R copies. But version number is fairly easy. Version number would prove more useful for identifying differences, TOC size would be more for verifying a rip or a full image.
Edit: At the very least, I think we should keep track of version numbers of the games we do know that have multiple versions, like NTSC U/C Gran Turismo 2's.
Edit 2: Hmm, this could possibly be version information for various *.c files, and not the game itself. I'm looking more into this.
Edit 3: After some poking around, I have determined that those $Id versions are infact .c library versions, not the game version. It seems PS1 does NOT keep a hardcoded version number anywhere on the disc. So much for my idea. The closest thing we have on PS1 is the date of the SLXS_XXX.XX file. The date is good enough to distinguish between GT2's.
At least keeping version numbers of PS2 is possible since they hardcoded a version number in the SYSTEM.CNF file. Half my idea can work, lol.
Have you taken a look at the PSRM (or PTRM/PDSS on the PS2) numbers on discs? If you take a look at the demos on the list you'll see they're all listed. That's because us demo collectors noticed them changing for different printings ^^;;; It should be the same for retail games, you can find the numbers on the outer edge of most discs. If you have original copies of any of those Gran Turismo 2's take a look, my Greatest Hits copy is SCUS-94455/PSRM-013750 and SCUS-94488/PSRM-013780Quote:
Originally Posted by JumboMaverick
Thanks for the tip Ragnar. All my originals are at home while I'm up at school though. First chance I get to go home, I will definately check that out.
Two typos in the PSX section:
Salery Man Champ - Tatakau Salary Man
Salery should be Salary.
T.R.A.G. - Tactical Rescue Assauls Group - Mission of Mercy [U]
Assauls should be Assualt.
so conclusion is having "ut_f.c,v 1.3 1995/08/23 06:29:32 ayako" in SXXS_XXX.XX
cannot determine the difference? lucky! i was going to start taking my next disc to view that info.
but then telling it is rip anot does checking mod-date SLXS_XXX.XX file help? what if the person rip never modify the file...... haha
hm for iso buster should click "checksum 2352"? but the process time is like ripping a CD..... right?
help help any better tools lol
ok my example is this:
if i didn't forget, i think is "segnin" mention there was a armstrong agent jap rip floating around the net for ages!
and i have my armstrong agent pirated copy jap in my house for 6 or more years+- now what should i check with someone who have the rip, to verify differences? i still think there must be a easier method to like 60sec get some info of a disc which can compare from differences copied. or can anyone point me to any huge rip copies around and and find difference?
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ok i do a very lengthy time check @bomberman party edition SLUS_011.89 Disc using isobuster i got this
does above help at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by *.md5