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So they approved SOPA?
Haven't heard such a thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbigbuddy
If I recall, it was delayed until after the winter recess. And if typical trends hold, after a delay it probably wont pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
That's what I last heard as well. They tried to sneak it in for a short meeting in late December, but that was called off.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealSpiders
Code:http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57342716-281/rep-issa-sopa-wont-be-approved-unless-fixed/
That's pretty old, notice how it still mentions the canned meeting.
Seems that SOPA has not yet reached the next debate, and people are taking advantage of this. Lots of major tech companies talking about the issues, lots of internet protests of different kinds, ect. With the sheer amount of support against this growing, I think we may dodge a bullet.
I like to have a small amount of faith in mankind. Something this stupid should never be allowed to pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
I think that's partly the reason it hasn't passed yet, they're busy debating on how stupid it should be before it passes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
Ban the internet!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealSpiders
WHY STOP THERE!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealSpiders
BAN ALL PERSONAL COMPUTERS
BAN ALL TECHNOLOGIES
WAIT... WAIT...
BAN ALL OF MANKIND FROM PLANET EARTH :wacko:
Ban everything, all day, everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by rok124
I feel like it will eventually come to that.
all hail big brother!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealSpiders
remember kids...big brother is watching!
oh what a grand world we live in
So some old shit but idk if it was posted here...
http://david.weebly.com/1/post/2011/...nder-sopa.html
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=169297
Just like last year, this sort of crap brings me back to EP.
So, hey! It's not all bad!
But seriously, this is...I don't even know what to say.
Sadly, it seems my congressman is in favor of this bill.
I don't know what to think of my country anymore. We're slowly, gradually becoming a fascist state:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...?newsfeed=true
From the article:
Human rights groups accused the president of deserting his principles and disregarding the long-established principle that the military is not used in domestic policing. The legislation has also been strongly criticised by libertarians on the right angered at the stripping of individual rights for the duration of "a war that appears to have no end".
"There are laws on the books now that characterise who might be a terrorist: someone missing fingers on their hands is a suspect according to the department of justice. Someone who has guns, someone who has ammunition that is weatherproofed, someone who has more than seven days of food in their house can be considered a potential terrorist," Paul said. "If you are suspected because of these activities, do you want the government to have the ability to send you to Guantánamo Bay for indefinite detention?"
Under the legislation suspects can be held without trial "until the end of hostilities". They will have the right to appear once a year before a committee that will decide if the detention will continue.
Elements of the law are so legally confusing, as well as being constitutionally questionable, that any detentions are almost certain to be challenged all the way to the supreme court.
Tom Malinowski of Human Rights Watch: "It's something so radical that it would have been considered crazy had it been pushed by the Bush administration." "It establishes precisely the kind of system that the United States has consistently urged other countries not to adopt. At a time when the United States is urging Egypt, for example, to scrap its emergency law and military courts, this is not consistent."
"Vague language" was deliberately included in the bill in order to get it passed. "The very lack of clarity is itself a problem. If people are confused about what it means, if people disagree about what it means, that in and of itself makes it bad law," he said.
Sen. Rand Paul (Ron's son) : "We're talking about American citizens who can be taken from the United States and sent to a camp at Guantánamo Bay and held indefinitely. It puts every single citizen American at risk," he said. "Really, what security does this indefinite detention of Americans give us? The first and flawed premise, both here and in the badly named Patriot Act, is that our pre-9/11 police powers were insufficient to stop terrorism. This is simply not borne out by the facts."
Sen. Dianne Feinstein: "Congress is essentially authorizing the indefinite imprisonment of American citizens, without charge," she said. "We are not a nation that locks up its citizens without charge."
So, for those of you who think there's no way SOPA will get passed...well, they already passed this steaming pile of goatshit. So, who knows what they'll do next.
Yeah I heard about this on TV. Pretty gay. I also haven't seen you post here in a long timeQuote:
Originally Posted by SegNin
:D
2 words for those who support this trash and maybe that stupid stuff segnin linked above: Self-Annhilation
thats all i currently see as our inevitable future and its looking more and more likely with this crap (idiots are running our nation >.< )
only 2 kinds of people supporting this shit,
ones with a hidden agenda or
Fucking idiots.
Well put, made people should join all there computers together to create a super computer to fight Internet censoring if this gets passed.....Quote:
only 2 kinds of people supporting this shit,
ones with a hidden agenda or
Fucking idiots.
I also personally think that if this get through all sort of new programs and tools are going to start flying out the wood work to get around this censoring. right now theres probably a table full of fat greasy git's itching for this to get through
yup and you cant believe a FUCKING word out of obamas mouth, says he will turn it down if it comes to his Desk at the oval office, bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Blog
Those "programs and tools" will be illegal to have/use/distribute/even talk about in the U.S. if SOPA is passed as it's currently written. And I don't see any chance of that provision being removed from the bill. (Same provision was included in the DMCA after all).Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Blog
Even if Obama vetos it, if 2/3 of the House and 2/3 of the Senate support it, THEY WILL OVERRIDE HIS VETO. And as you pointed out, who knows what Obama's going to do. Hopefully, he'll listen to what the originators (basically inventors) of the Internet keep saying--NONE OF THEM ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSED LAW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme Warrior
i copied and pasted this from another board-
The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), also known as H.R. 3261, is a bill that was introduced in the United States House of Representatives on October 26, 2011, by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors. The bill expands the ability of U.S. law enforcement and copyright holders to fight online trafficking in copyrighted intellectual property and counterfeit goods. Now before the House Judiciary Committee, it builds on the similar PRO-IP Act of 2008 and the corresponding Senate bill, the PROTECT IP Act.
The originally proposed bill would allow the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as copyright holders, to seek court orders against websites accused of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement. Depending on who requests the court orders, the actions could include barring online advertising networks and payment facilitators such as PayPal from doing business with the allegedly infringing website, barring search engines from linking to such sites, and requiring Internet service providers to block access to such sites.
The bill would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content a crime, with a maximum penalty of five years in prison for 10 pieces of music or movies within six months. The bill also gives immunity to Internet services that voluntarily take action against websites dedicated to infringement, while making liable for damages any copyright holder who knowingly misrepresents that a website is dedicated to infringement.
Proponents of the bill say it protects the intellectual property market and corresponding industry, jobs and revenue, and is necessary to bolster enforcement of copyright laws especially against foreign websites. They cite examples such as the DOJ's $500 million settlement with Google for its role in a scheme to target U.S. consumers with ads to buy illegal prescription drugs from Canadian pharmacies.
Opponents say that it infringes on First Amendment rights, is Internet censorship, will cripple the Internet, and will threaten whistle-blowing and other free speech.
The House Judiciary Committee held hearings on SOPA on November 16 and December 15, 2011. The Committee is scheduled to continue debate when Congress returns from its winter recess.
SOPA Emergency IP list:
If these a$$hat$ in D.C. decide to ruin the Internet, here's how to access your favorite sites in the event of a DNS takedown:
tumblr.com 174.121.194.34
wikipedia.org 208.80.152.201
# News
bbc.co.uk 212.58.241.131
aljazeera.com 198.78.201.252
# Social media
reddit.com 72.247.244.88
imgur.com 173.231.140.219
google.com 74.125.157.99
youtube.com 74.125.65.91
yahoo.com 98.137.149.56
hotmail.com 65.55.72.135
bing.com 65.55.175.254
digg.com 64.191.203.30
theonion.com 97.107.137.164
hush.com 65.39.178.43
gamespot.com 216.239.113.172
ign.com 69.10.25.46
cracked.com 98.124.248.77
sidereel.com 144.198.29.112
github.com 207.97.227.239
# Torrent sites
mininova.com 80.94.76.5
btjunkie.com 93.158.65.211
demonoid.com 62.149.24.66
demonoid.me 62.149.24.67
# Social networking
facebook.com 69.171.224.11
twitter.com 199.59.149.230
tumblr.com 174.121.194.34
livejournal.com 209.200.154.225
dreamwidth.org 69.174.244.50
# Live Streaming Content
stickam.com 67.201.54.151
blogtv.com 84.22.170.149
justin.tv 199.9.249.21
chatroulette.com 184.173.141.231
omegle.com 97.107.132.144
own3d.tv 208.94.146.80
megavideo.com 174.140.154.32
# Television
gorillavid.com 178.17.165.74
videoweed.com 91.220.176.248
novamov.com 91.220.176.248
tvlinks.com 208.223.219.206
1channel.com 208.87.33.151
# Shopping
amazon.com 72.21.211.176
newegg.com 216.52.208.187
frys.com 209.31.22.39
# File Sharing
mediafire.com 205.196.120.13
megaupload.com 174.140.154.20
fileshare.com 208.87.33.151
multiupload.com 95.211.149.7
uploading.com 195.191.207.40
hotfile.com 199.7.177.218
gamespy.com 69.10.25.46
what.cd 67.21.232.223
putlocker.com 89.238.130.247
uploaded.to 95.211.143.200
dropbox.com 199.47.217.179
pastebin.com 69.65.13.216
Here’s a tip for the do-it-yourself crowd: Go to your computer’s Start menu, and either go to “run” or just search for “cmd.” Open it up, and type in “ping [website address],”
Once you have the IP for a website, all you really need to do is enter it like you would a normal URL and hit enter/press go. Typing in “208.85.240.231” should bring you to the front page of AO3, for example, just as typing “174.121.194.34/dashboard” should bring you straight to your Tumblr dashboard. Since we’re obviously bracing for the worst case scenario which would involve you not being able to access the Internet regularly, you should save this list.
Wouldn't that have been better here?:
http://www.epforums.org/showthread.p...-participation
Also, I did this in school to get around the blocker that blocked youtube. Thank the nerds for that. Everybody was watching youtube videos again, and the computer teachers would get mad and say, "Ok guys, time to turn off your monitors now!"
The inventors of the internet should permaban congress IRL, lol.
Hopefully with the election season kicking off, maybe they'll put it on the back burner. Not that it matters since Obama is going to win this time too. :P
Who wants to vote for that Mormon Mitt or Santorum :!!!:
Republicans don't really have a strong front runner. The only way to win, would be to point out how bad Obama is, which he isn't too bad. Better than GWB.
Obama IS that bad, he is the newer,blacker Bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by lizard81288
If you think he is keeping his promises think again, he has lied about every, single , one.
dont forget spending millions to hide his information, and the forgery he Threw out a few years later, All these career politicians are all the same Lizard, the only one who can help this country is Ron Paul.
Yeah! like repealing don't ask don't tell, and closing corporate loopholes, and making sure you don't get denied health care because of a pre-existing conditions. He never did any of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supreme Warrior
I don't wanna turn this into a flame war, but I agree with Supreme Warrior, Obama is just as bad if not worse then Bush. His healthcare bill is an insult to american philosphy. Its amazing how degrading America has become, because of greed. If you think Obama is some sorta of super hero, well then I don't know what to say, but he's just another pile of trash like the rest of them. Anyways, back on topic, I've said this before, I really do not want this bill to pass, I've seen a lot of mixed opinions on people saying it has chances of passing and others who say it won't pass. My personal opinion is that it has a chance of passing, knowing how greedy the MPAA and RIAA are.
Thread turns into an anti-obama thread.
Bill was proposed by a red state republican and is being pushed through a republican run congress
What the fuck am I reading?
If it does pass by a small margin I'm hoping Obama would veto this shit.
And so it begins... http://www.extremetech.com/computing...o-protest-sopa
Idiocy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raype
Obama's problem is that he's spineless, he's let the Republicans have too much power in his run. I dare say that the Republicans were better during the Bush years because they didn't have to rally the craziest people they could find for power and didn't get poisoned by their own crap spewing from their mouths.
You have explained almost every democrat with that, lol. Democrats lack backbones and Republicans are assholes. I'd say vote for Ron Paul :wacko:. On some of the issues I agree with him with, however, he wants to cut programs and federal regulations we kind of need. The Tea Party seems even more extreme than the Republican party & most of the Republicans don't like the Tea Party, and it seems like wise as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkseid
I'm a laid back person. If two Doods want to get hitched, then so be it, but then Republicans turn it into, "OMFG!!!!People are going to have sex with goats and trees now!!!!" It is too extreme to draw that conclusion. Like why Don't Ask Don't Tell should be x'd away with, was because during the heat of battle, gay soldiers were going to have sex with goats. It is just silly. The Democrats also say weird things as well.
Most of congress is cozy since they have been there for years. I would like almost all of them to be voted out. Bernie Sanders didn't rerun for office again, because he would actually have to rerun of office again. Meet people, do speeches, ect. So he just quit.
As for Obama, (I hope you are not taking this as an attack or anything, because it isn't :)) I think he is doing a better job than what McCain would have. I doubt Don't Ask Don't Tell would have gotten repealed if he was in the office for example.
As for SOPA, it seems some companies are pussy footing it. Companies that support it, Sony, Nintendo & Electric Arts, voiced that they want it, but haven't signed an official statement/letter.
Quote:
Our unenthusiastic half-props for decoupling themselves from SOPA may have been a little premature as, according to Techdirt, the companies in question were never on the SOPA supporter list in the first place. An older list of supporters posted on Scribd includes Go Daddy and a number of law firms which demanded their names be removed in December. Notably absent, however, are Sony, Nintendo and Electronic Arts.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...upport-UPDATED
If that bill passes.. wouldn't anonymous fight it? xP
The unconscious brutes who hope to control the internet have already become enslaved by its matrix.
I bet they would go after the supports too. Looks like Sony is going to get hacked, yet again, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dylstew
Nah, they'll just start their own space program. :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizard81288
read your own quote lizard those companies have never officially supported SOPA and never will due to fear of the backlash sure those companies have drm and dmca and would openly support it if they could without getting the backlash like GO DADDY did but with fear of backlash they will not support this bill openly so with no official support of SOPA and unless they can prove it was supported by these companies anon has no reason to go after them.
and as to gypsys post about google and such sites temp shutting down I welcome it yes I will miss the sites for the short time they are down but if done properly do you have any idea at the sheer volume of calls congress will receive about not passing SOPA it will get far more attention and public out cry then our inane ramblings here or on other sites (facebook twitter Etc.) ever will.
Man it's a good thing it's so easy to launch any old object into orbit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistral
You mean by giving the banksters everything they wanted and then blocking their regulation??Quote:
Originally Posted by lizard81288
What loopholes do you believe he closed? It never happened, you just heard it on the fake TV news.
Which doesn't even kick in until some years from now, and which the insurance companies will find loopholes to deny you anyway.Quote:
and making sure you don't get denied health care because of a pre-existing conditions.
You know why Obamacare was really done? All you have to do is who directly benefits from it, and not in theory such as people and pre-existing conditions. All Obama did is force the buying of insurance from the same private monopolies, which have no reason to not gouge prices and find loopholes to deny coverage.
No, he didn't. You just heard of it on TV.Quote:
He never did any of that.
The things Obama has actually did, these are among them:
- Appointed Tim Geithner, one of the main wall street criminals, to be a watchdog for wall street crime.
- Made record deals with drug companies which will only give them profits
- Blocked true regulation to prevent the 2008 fiasco by protecting criminal banksters; biggest example of this is blocking Elizabeth Warren from regulatory duties, because she wasn't going to play ball with the banksters.
- Committed more military to the contractor profit machine in Afghanistan towards no useful end for anyone else.
- Is being an apologist, at best, for the Keystone XL pipeline, if not a fervent supporter
- Signed and even bolstered the inception of NDAA, effectively rewriting the constitution to repeal the most basic liberties.
There is no reason to believe Obama would not sign SOPA or PIPA.
And no choices are left. They have made sure of that. Ron Paul will never be allowed to win.
They don't need to support it openly. That was godaddy's blunder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightshade
All the big media companies support these bills. That's a fact. They don't have to do it openly. For instance, corporations are free to donate as much as they want to political campaigns, effectively buying the government. The Citizens United verdict has made sure this is easy.
We haven't and won't hear a peep out of mainstream media in the US about this. There is a blackout on SOPA and PIPA just like there is/was of Occupy Wall Street. That says it all.
Psst, the FED runs the economy. The FED is run by banks. Not bailing them out means that within a matter of hours the country descends into anarchy when people realize they no longer have any money as their ATM receipts all read 0. Within a month America becomes the United States of China. Within 6 months the entire global economy turns itself inside out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Naim
Worst case scenario, of course. But the best case scenario isn't a hell of a lot better.
Public law 111-226. Approximately 10 billion in loopholes closed in one piece of legislature alone.Quote:
What loopholes do you believe he closed? It never happened, you just heard it on the fake TV news.
Government moves at a glacial pace. You must be new to this.Quote:
Which doesn't even kick in until some years from now, and which the insurance companies will find loopholes to deny you anyway.
Because every other country in the world that switched to this method works that way. :rolleyes:Quote:
You know why Obamacare was really done? All you have to do is who directly benefits from it, and not in theory such as people and pre-existing conditions. All Obama did is force the buying of insurance from the same private monopolies, which have no reason to not gouge prices and find loopholes to deny coverage.
Found innocent. Any wrongdoing was located within a large company which he may or may not have even been involved in. What ever happened to belief in "innocent until proven guilty". Guess you're in favor of detaining this criminal despite their not being any wrongdoing. I believe this is a basic civil liberty.Quote:
- Appointed Tim Geithner, one of the main wall street criminals, to be a watchdog for wall street crime.
It's called bargaining bro.Quote:
- Made record deals with drug companies which will only give them profits
See: first point. You guys fucked up by putting the banks in charge in the first place.Quote:
- Blocked true regulation to prevent the 2008 fiasco by protecting criminal banksters; biggest example of this is blocking Elizabeth Warren from regulatory duties, because she wasn't going to play ball with the banksters.
You want to build infrastructure with soldiers? LAWL 'kay.Quote:
- Committed more military to the contractor profit machine in Afghanistan towards no useful end for anyone else.
Don't see what the problem here is. The whole country is all about the "WAREZ UR JAWBS" Can you blame the guy for giving the people what they're demanding?Quote:
- Is being an apologist, at best, for the Keystone XL pipeline, if not a fervent supporter
It's really more "rewriting the bill of rights". And if that was a "basic liberty" they'd have gotten it in the first draft. It also wouldn't have been so heavily disagreed with and have taken years to catch on.Quote:
- Signed and even bolstered the inception of NDAA, effectively rewriting the constitution to repeal the most basic liberties.
And even then people just found loopholes anyway.
Washington was such a shitty president guys.
SOPA author to remove ISP blocking provision
http://www.macworld.com/article/1648...provision.html
and there's a article similar to this- http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...ing-from-sopa/Quote:
The lead sponsor of the U.S. Stop Online Piracy Act, a controversial copyright enforcement bill, will remove a much-debated provision that would require Internet service providers to block their subscribers from accessing foreign websites accused of infringing the copyrights of U.S. companies.
Representative Lamar Smith, a Texas Republican, said he will remove the ISP provision from the bill, called SOPA, so that lawmakers can “further examine the issues surrounding this provision.”
Smith’s decision was prompted by discussions with industry groups “across the country,” he said in a statement. “We will continue to look for ways to ensure that foreign websites cannot sell and distribute illegal content to U.S. consumers.”
The ISP provision in SOPA allows the U.S. Department of Justice to seek court orders requiring service providers to block subscriber access to foreign sites accused by the DOJ of copyright infringement. That provision would be removed, but remaining in the bill would be provisions allowing the DOJ to seek court orders requiring search engines to remove links to sites accused of infringement and requiring online advertising networks and payment processors to stop doing business with the accused sites.
The bill would also allow domain-name registrars to block the foreign websites’ IP addresses on U.S. servers, and it would allow copyright holders to seek court orders against ad networks and payment processors.
The ISP blocking provision in SOPA could lead to cybersecurity problems as Web users attempt to bypass the blocks, opponents have said. The bill could also lead to legitimate speech being blocked, opponents have said.
Smith’s decision to remove the ISP provision in SOPA came a day after Senator Patrick Leahy, a Vermont Democrat, said he plans to amend the similar Protect IP Act, or PIPA, to take out a similar ISP provision, due to feedback from several groups. Lawmakers have heard strong opposition to the ISP provisions and other portions of SOPA and PIPA.
Meanwhile, a group of six Senate Republicans called on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, to delay votes on PIPA scheduled to start Jan. 24. Since the Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously approved PIPA in May, “we have increasingly heard from a large number of constituents and other stakeholders with vocal concerns about possible unintended consequences of the proposed legislation,” wrote the Republicans, all members of the committee.
Among the Republicans signing the letter were Charles Grassley of Iowa and Orrin Hatch of Utah.
The House of Representatives Judiciary Committee is due to resume a marathon session to amend SOPA after lawmakers return to Washington, D.C., later this month.
SOPA is still needed, Smith said. There is little “protection for American companies from foreign online criminals who steal and sell American goods to consumers around the world,” he said. “Congress must address the widespread problem of online theft of America’s technology and products from foreign thieves.”
Opponents of SOPA said the proposed change to SOPA isn’t enough. The changes show some progress, but bad provisions remain, said Sherwin Siy, deputy legal director of Public Knowledge, a digital rights group. PIPA still allows court orders against any business providing a directory, index, reference, pointer, or hypertext link to an alleged infringing site, he said.
“The bills are still over-broad in their reach,” he added. “Both bills still include a private right of action with few protections from abuse, meaning that sites can be killed without ever being proven to violate copyright.
The Computer and Communications Industry Association called on the sponsors of SOPA and PIPA to step back and look for new ways to combat online piracy and counterfeiting.
SOPA is “still problematic to the Internet architecture because of other blocking/filtering provisions and overly broad definitions,” said Heather Greenfield, a CCIA spokeswoman.
Representative Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican and cosponsor of SOPA, applauded Smith for deciding to remove the ISP provision from the bill. “Based on extensive conversations I have had with him and with tech leaders on this issue, it has become clear that more discussion with tech industry leaders and engineers about how best to approach this issue needs to take place,” Goodlatte said in a statement.