A Game To Feature The 9/11 Attack

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Originally Posted by Ziegfried

Yeah. Almost a whole sentence dedicated to the World Trade Centre, they should shut up about it and try getting a game sold over its interesting concept or something instead.

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Well, I'd read entirely different things on it, which put more emphasis on the WTC attacks, and a whole lot less on the fact that it was going to feature other disasters. Again, it's as if, while the game is going to feature alot more then just the WTC attacks, that it's thier main selling point. Meh, I don't particularly care anymore. As Norgus said, there's no use complaining about it.

Though as a point of interest, the game has yet to be signed to a publisher, and with content like this it may never see release. Though if it does, it'd be interesting to see how well it does.

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Originally Posted by Cyberxion

Well, I'd read entirely different things on it, which put more emphasis on the WTC attacks, and a whole lot less on the fact that it was going to feature other disasters. Again, it's as if, while the game is going to feature alot more then just the WTC attacks, that it's thier main selling point. Meh, I don't particularly care anymore. As Norgus said, there's no use complaining about it.

Though as a point of interest, the game has yet to be signed to a publisher, and with content like this it may never see release. Though if it does, it'd be interesting to see how well it does.

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Yeah. I wouldn't be able to run it, anyway.

True -- The ultimate question is whether the game is good or not... I'm not touchy, as I really don't give a damn about how these events are portrayed in the game, but then again, that's just me... There's a lot of touchy people out there willing to ban this game due to its sensible theme...

The concept of disaster games isn't new -- "The Ignition Factor" from Jaleco has already done it, and I'm sure a lot others have as well... The fact that they're toting "real life scenarios" as a selling point IS a rather pathetic marketing scheme -- One that works quite well, not surprisingly...

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Originally Posted by youthquake

maybe if you were a worker in one of the buildings and you had to escape or whatnot. i'd try it. why not?

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Did you try clicking any of the links... It is called Survivor, so I can almost assume it has to do with surviving?

As if all the tactical/first-person shooters on the war on Iraq weren't enough! These modern Hollywood-esque titles on current events bore the fuck out of me. It might seem offensive to most Americans, and this game will most likely suck.

It does seem like a neat idea, but there are many ways that it could go wrong. It would have to be very accurate to fair well.

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Originally Posted by KONAMI Man

Go out on the street and ask anyone what they know about the Paraguay fires...
Go out on the street and ask anyone what they know about 9/11...

Huge difference there...

And it doesn't matter where it gets the attention, the fact is they're using it as a selling point: "Look! This game has a mission based on 9/11!"... Weak...

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....... You really have to remember there's more countries then the U.S.A in the world, you should read the book "air frame", it had a good quote in it about america's tendency to think that......





As for them using 911 as a selling point, go to the company's web page, 911 is not predominantly displayed.

More countries than the US in the wold...? My comment had nothing to do with that, nor was it implied, nor do I have reason to believe that... Not just in the US, anywhere in the world, I'm sure (almost) everyone knows what 9/11 was about... In stark contrast, other "isolated" incidents don't even gather enough attention to stay in people's minds for more than a few days/weeks... Fuck, I'm sure not a whole lot of people outside Mexico know about the '85 earthquake in Mexico City...

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Originally Posted by karragh

As for them using 911 as a selling point, go to the company's web page, 911 is not predominantly displayed.

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Hyping your game at the expense of real-life disasters in which countless lives were lost is a bad idea, and 9/11 is just one of them... Perhaps the most predominant one on people's minds, and that's why we're discussing here... Right...?

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Originally Posted by KONAMI Man

More countries than the US in the wold...? My comment had nothing to do with that, nor was it implied, nor do I have reason to believe that... Not just in the US, anywhere in the world, I'm sure (almost) everyone knows what 9/11 was about... In stark contrast, other "isolated" incidents don't even gather enough attention to stay in people's minds for more than a few days/weeks... Fuck, I'm sure not a whole lot of people outside Mexico know about the '85 earthquake in Mexico City...



Hyping your game at the expense of real-life disasters in which countless lives were lost is a bad idea, and 9/11 is just one of them... Perhaps the most predominant one on people's minds, and that's why we're discussing here... Right...?

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Exactly.

I agree with you 100%. And well said, might I add....

Haha! I had trouble putting my thoughts to words... :P

Glad it came out alright... ;)

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Originally Posted by KONAMI Man

More countries than the US in the wold...? My comment had nothing to do with that, nor was it implied, nor do I have reason to believe that... Not just in the US, anywhere in the world, I'm sure (almost) everyone knows what 9/11 was about... In stark contrast, other "isolated" incidents don't even gather enough attention to stay in people's minds for more than a few days/weeks... Fuck, I'm sure not a whole lot of people outside Mexico know about the '85 earthquake in Mexico City...



Hyping your game at the expense of real-life disasters in which countless lives were lost is a bad idea, and 9/11 is just one of them... Perhaps the most predominant one on people's minds, and that's why we're discussing here... Right...?

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I'll conced defeat on the area of 911 being more well known, though If i lived in paraguay or some other country not so america-tied-in-to(one word), I'd go out on the streets and do some polls :P.


anyhow, they arn't really hyping the game very well anyway, as I never even heard of the game 'till this thread, but as i said, 911 isn't that predominantly on peoples minds.... it wasn't even that big a disaster compared to some in the world (not to try and take away from how bad it was), although it may be the biggest one in the game...

I don't even understand why we have to discuss this... you say this:

"Hyping your game at the expense of real-life disasters in which countless lives were lost is a bad idea"

..... no one complains about games featuring D-day, and I don't think anyone would complain about a game featuring the battle of sommes*(correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe more people died in the battle of somes then in 911)
*As a side not, I would really love a world war one themed game

So why is it that this is so much worse then the above mentioned?
If anything, we should be complaining about them claiming the game is original, when it is such a rip off of the disaster report theme :P

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Originally Posted by Cyberxion

Again, it's as if, while the game is going to feature alot more then just the WTC attacks, that it's thier main selling point. Meh, I don't particularly care anymore.

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Go to their website(findable through that link), it is hardly a main selling point, it's not even first on their list.

You have to consider how recent the tragedies featured in this game are. D-Day happened a LONG time ago, and as such, people aren't as offended by movies and games featuring that tragedy. But 9-11 happened three years ago, and is still fresh in people's minds. Featuring the tragedy in a game right now is a little distasteful.

Though as it's been mentioned before, there's a chance that this game won't even come out. Noone's picked it up for release, and there's a big chance that due tot he subject matter, noone will.

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Originally Posted by Cyberxion

You have to consider how recent the tragedies featured in this game are. D-Day happened a LONG time ago, and as such, people aren't as offended by movies and games featuring that tragedy. But 9-11 happened three years ago, and is still fresh in people's minds. Featuring the tragedy in a game right now is a little distasteful.

Though as it's been mentioned before, there's a chance that this game won't even come out. Noone's picked it up for release, and there's a big chance that due tot he subject matter, noone will.

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eh... somehow even if it was more rescent, I still think a game with the battle of sommes should be considered more distasteful(if any of this is to be considered such), as it's just the sheer loss of life that tips it over, but still, even if the battle of some had just happened, i still don't think anyone would complain(excpet incompatent officers who would be badly portrayed in an such acurate game)


ah... you need to think in the mind of a publisher eh... game studio there, what was it, reply?, might be just trying to make a fun game, but a publisher, now they will see all that contreversy as a good thing, it's already sold copies before it's on sale if it has something like that.
remember, all the contraversy around GTA over in russia helped it sell copies there...



ugh... my spelling and grammer is terrible today... i havn't slept in 3 or 4 days, please ignore the terrible spelling and grammer.

Y'know, I'm tired of arguing the point. Say what you will, I still think the game's a bad idea, and the fact that it features the 9-11 attacks tips the scale into the realm of bad taste IMO.

Oh, and before I make my exit, I'd like to say that a tragedy isn't measured by body count. To write off the severity of the 9-11 incident just because it didn't have as large a body-count as another tragedy is not an intelligent thing to do.

Also, you can hardly equate the controversy to be found in GTA with that of this game, and what it's attempting to do....

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Originally Posted by Cyberxion

Y'know, I'm tired of arguing the point. Say what you will, I still think the game's a bad idea, and the fact that it features the 9-11 attacks tips the scale into the realm of bad taste IMO.

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One quick question before you completly abandon the arguement, what do you think is the proper amount of time before this wouldn't be distastful then?, after all you did say it was distastful because it was only 3 years ago.