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Just try not to go overboard on the preaching over the internet, its not really a great idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToolPunk
Iv'e been doing this for 18 years since birth. All my family are (BTZ'd) I'm thinking about it... I want to.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToolPunk
DF'd !? Yeah, lets stop talking. You should know the reason then.
Yeah I got DF'd because I fell in love too young and was blinded by it by the time it was all over I wished I listned to everyone.
You know the uploading games thing is not a good thing either while I'm on the subject.
It was actually from the Watchtower Library CD.
Also, since you are not BTZ'd then talking to me is a personal decision and if you were BTZ'd then it would still be a personal decision we just would not be able to associate or talk about religion. I know my faith I was a Full time Auxilary Pioneer and hope to be in the very near future. Getting married this month and hopefully reinstated not to long from now..............OK I will shut up now
To all those wondering by now you should know what I am. Also, Xena is right "Just try not to go overboard on the preaching over the internet, its not really a great idea". So I guess I will retire unless you are very interested in some info, PM me.
I'd just like to point out that some people use a flawed reasoning (not talking about any specific post right now).
So, here:
- There is God.
- Why?
- Because the Bible says so.
- So?
- What the Bible says is true.
- Why?
- Because God said so.
See how it's recursive?
I still believe that reality is pretty subjective. So saying that anyone's God is 'truer' that anyone else's is simply foolish. I'd even go as far as saying it's nothing but pride, thinking that you are better than another guy just because he sees the world differently.
And ToolPunk, Random actually gave a pretty good argument, and you seem to have dismissed it, even without reading it.
Actually I didn't dissmiss it, I read it and answered. What I said about his post, it meant that he didn't have to wright so much, it all came down to the same thing.
I'm still reading your post concerning evolution, so these questions might've already been answered.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToolPunk
Questioning things is the way we gain knowledge. So even if we might not be able to prove it now, it may be proven later. (Like in the case of electro-magnetic waves.)
Second, you quoted pretty old articles, so that doesn't really make a valid argument. Bill Gates once said that 640k of memory will be enough for everyone. He's been eating his words ever since.
Could you state your reasons why you shaped that post that way, other than to gain victory over your partner in debate? Making him feel overwhelmed by a huge amount of data that might not even be relevant as of now.
Maybe, but don't leave yourself wide open. Silence is golden.Quote:
Originally Posted by pkt-zer0
That silence does suggest a pre-acquired wisdom, doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xena
You probably weren't born knowing everything.
Thanks for the probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by pkt-zer0
No problem, I thought you probably understood what I meant by that. ...:PQuote:
Originally Posted by Xena
Humph. Probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by pkt-zer0
(Goddess - Sin` - moon) < Now iv'e lost you. Heh, nevermind.
That information was replying to an earlier post regarding scientific publication.Quote:
Could you state your reasons why you shaped that post that way, other than to gain victory over your partner in debate? Making him feel overwhelmed by a huge amount of data that might not even be relevant as of now.
It will always be relevant no matter how old it is because evolution is an idiocy. In evolution there has to be a start and that begining did not just pop into existence. There is nothing in the known universe that just pops into existence. Which means there had to be a creator at least at the begining, which destroys the idea of evolution.
Evolution does not say matter pops into existence from nothing. It just says that living creatures develop over generations due to the inferior ones dying. It can be argued though whether this continues unto unliving things, which would possibly mean that the transition from unliving to living was just a logical consequence, similarly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToolPunk
If you do not believe that unliving things evolve (I'm not sure, at least), then there has to be a transition between unliving and living. This is what scientists have the hardest time explaining, it seems it has a pretty slim chance to be reproduced. Still, it could have happened over the course of millions of years.
Well there are different views on evolution just as there are different views on religion I was refering to the big bang evolution theory. The one that states that a big bang and all that good stuff eventually caused organisms to appear and eventually evolved into intellegent human beings. One of the evolution stepping stools.
Well, as far as I know, evolution starts with living beings.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToolPunk
And for the creation of the universe, nothing certain is known, there are a bunch of interesting theories, the Big Bang, the superstring theory, and all that jazz, which goes far past the depth I'd be interested in physics. Some might be more convincing than others, or you might even consider them all bullshit. But that doesn't make them any less valid, or more valid than any other theory. Since it's just that, a theory.
But, if you want to have a solid ground on which to build the world, you need to have a starting point. That might be the Genesis, as described in the Bible, or the Big Bang. It doesn't really change much, since people are on the plane of existence, opposing non-existence, so you cannot really say anything definite about it.