The non-dumb-name out: You look circumcised

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Originally Posted by Jazzmarazz

I added the name of the IC. I managed to forget that. Der. Making an entire post about one thing and you forget to address it. :lol
Also added to the conclusion.
Going now.

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I'm expecting some pics of the vintage gaming/computer stuff you end up picking up when you get back. ;P

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Originally Posted by Raype

I can pinpoint a small handful of answers.

Long-ish partial answer

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For the first, there's the misconception about victim complexes and all that. She has frequently been told to GTFO and STFU by hordes of people. Now a lot of people see this as actual misogyny and the "boy's club" mentality of gaming culture coming out. Arguably they have a hell of a point as there's a lot of hateful noise in there. But the more verbose among her detractors tend to point out that her arguments are shit and stupid and that she's blatantly cherry picking whilst avoiding the positive aspects of the characters/games she's picking on (which she outright admitted to on twitter, but quickly deleted because it makes it kinda bad to illustrate that maybe gaming isn't as anti-women as she's making it appear). She also never bothers to point out games that handle women properly, attempt to appeal to both men and women, or that objectify men equally. Several of these games reduce women to objects, but they do the same to men. Because the writing is just shit. A real attempt to fix things would be funneling that money into the development of a more inclusive game, the establishment of some kind of award for games that attempt to be more "equal", or even telling the audience to go buy game X because game X has loads of women developing it and the women are totally not one dimensional fuck toys or annoying whores. But that would involve work and taking away that precious money she doesn't need.

Women are underrepresented in gaming, but it's not nearly as bad as she's making it sound and there's loads of ways to improve the situation. Women are continually finding themselves further and further up the totem pole of game development and focus groups are often featuring more and more women. Several of the stories she decried as horrible misogynistic trash were written by, yup, women. But what people want aren't "answers" and "solutions" they just want to piss and moan and feel special/victimized without doing any work or suffering any real consequences. They get to pretend they're better than everyone else without having to have any solid argument to back that up, and the second anyone tries to point that out it's "WHATEVER, YOU JUST HATE WOMEN". Which automatically makes everyone else wrong and stupid and god help you if you don't fall in line, as you'll quickly find yourself besieged by the same hate speech and death threats these women are dealing with. Except this time with an added dose of hypocrisy.

In short, this movement is to feminism as McDonald's is to food. It's a quick, easy, cheap thing that satisfactorily fills you up but ultimately accomplishes nothing except getting shit everywhere and making people wish for death.

There's also some horrible double standards here and there.

1.) Jennifer Hepler is full of herself and kind of a bitch. People insulted her greatly and she left gaming. SEE HOW HORRIBLE AND EXCLUSIONARY GAMING IS? SHE IS A FEMINIST HERO AND MARTYR
2.) Phil Fish is full of himself and kind of a bitch. People insulted him greatly and he left gaming. OH WELL, SHIT HAPPENS.

See how having a penis works?

Warren Spector received/receives death threats. It's not like nerdrage is new. It's just that nowadays more game developers have tits and a tendency to whore for attention instead of sucking it the fuck up, dealing with it, and going back to work. Having criticism and hate thrown at you is just a part of being in the public spotlight. If I had a quarter for every "you're fat" e-mail Gabe Newell got I could buy the entire Steam library.

Furthermore, they're kneecapping the shit out of attempts to make women equal. The huge blowup over Hitman Absolution was rather hideous in hindsight after playing the game. In the game, they ultimately reveal that the other ace in the hole within the globe-spanning super-secret murder-for-hire quasi-mercenary agency was actually a team of women who manage to be part of a small handful of people to ever get the jump on the protagonist. They play these guys up for like half the game as being the "nuclear option" to a rogue super soldier clone (and his pint sized 2.0 version who might wind up providing an avenue for a decent female protagonist down the line, inevitably they ignore that possible point in this game's favour). These women are efficient, ruthless, and every part as capable as any of the male characters to show up in the series. But let's ignore all that because this is a universe built around theme-villainy and they happened to decide to go with sexy nuns. And also it's wrong to hit women. This is totally promoting male-on-female violence. So clearly the only way to have women included is to either remove them from the "game" portion, or to make the main character a woman. Neither of which sounds equal or optimal and the latter carries some pretty horrible connotations when you realize that female-on-male violence is not something you want to shrug off.

But apparently that's the solution provided by a handful of feminists who actually deal in "answers" instead of "moaning".

Which reminds me, some chick beat the living shit out of her husband down here last year. He had a restraining order against her and she proceeded to break into his home and attack him. In the process she damn near burned his face off with a pot of boiling water which required extensive repair. She's back in court right now. But it's cool, he had a penis and she had a vagina. That totes makes it okay. It's quite nice that I live in a world that wants to regard that sort of thing as less horrible and more correct than if he broke into her place to permanently disfigured her.

In short, man hitting woman, misogyny. Woman hitting man? Liberating. Man hitting man? Business as usual. Woman hitting woman? Sick male fantasy. True equality would instead point out that they're all person-on-person violence and carry the same connotations.

So it's basically an unwinnable war with constantly moving goalposts and loads of misandry. But it makes people feel special whilst simultaneously filling that wonderful urge to feel persecuted. Because unfortunately as a culture we've equated persecution with heroism but the part where you actually have to "do something to fix it" always seems to sail past people's heads (or they decide it's too much work and frequently doesn't get them anywhere near enough attention).

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It's trendy and social justice warriors happen to hop on whatever's trending so they can fill that hole where their soul should be and to distract them from the fact that they're as hateful and racist as any skinhead.

And this could only be more trendy if her vagina used to be a penis.

SO HOW ABOUT THAT GTAV REVIEW? NINE OUT OF TEN AMIRITE?

And that's why humanity sucks and I welcome the inevitable extinction of our useless self-absorbed race.

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I read it kind of.

I didn't.

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Originally Posted by Sprung

I didn't.

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I never learned how to read! :crying:

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Originally Posted by Milady

gamurrrr grrrrlll so random XD

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Soooo many gamez!

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Originally Posted by Prude

I read it kind of.

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So, was all of that earlier discussion about that pink-haired girl on tumblr you posted about a little while ago?

Anyway, there's plenty of games that don't objectify women. In fact one of my favorite series, which was created by a woman and features a strong female main character, is Phantasy Star. Both Phantasy Star and Phantasy Star IV have strong female leads. While the other two in the series have male leads they have a variety of non-scantily clad, strong female characters.

Plus as a business model video games do cater to males. It's the damn demographic. It is a business after all, and they need to cater to their customers to make money. Which actually happen to be (surprisingly)...wait for it...MALE! Wow, surprising huh? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Beelzebub

So, was all of that discussion about that pink-haired girl on tumblr you posted about a little while ago?

Anyway, there's plenty of games that don't objectify women. In fact one of my favorite series, which was created by a woman and features a strong female main character, is Phantasy Star. Both Phantasy Star and Phantasy Star IV have strong female leads. While the other two in the series have male leads they have a variety of non-scantily clad, strong female characters.

Plus a business model video games do cater to males. It's the damn demographic. It is a business after all, and they need to cater to their customers. Which actually happen to be (surprisingly)...wait for it...MALE! Wow, surprising huh? :rolleyes:

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Well, that's what I think too. There's nothing I hate more than victimizing yourself or your gender. Like, there's no need?

Oh no, the Alb girl (her name is Alb or something retarded) she is like a "lesser" version. :wacko: Basically what made her internet famous was reading the Tony Harris rant about fake gamer girls. Or fake cosplay girls or whatever. But I unfollowed people on tumblr that kept blogging their stuff, so I don't see it much anymore. I mostly just follow art blogs and stuff now.

Howdy-do Prude :wacko:

Getting far in Arabian nights?

I just finished the new SnK episodes so now I will be playing moar. I love it so far!! :]

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Originally Posted by Prude

I just finished the new SnK episodes so now I will be playing moar. I love it so far!! :]

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Good :]

There was no moving sale. >:
Either they packed up on day two or the sign was old. Very upset.

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Originally Posted by Gare

Yeah, this is exactly the part that pisses me off the most. Like when that one guy made a private joke to his buddy at a conference or something and the feminist sitting behind got him fired from his job. Fuck me. Or the celebration of violence towards men, like you mentioned in your post.

I get the feeling it's not equality some of these feminists want, but rather building a new matriarchal world order. :wacko:

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You mean Dongle-gate? A guy made a joke about a dongle and she got really uppity about it, took a picture of the guys and posted it on her twitter, rather than directly saying something to them. The biggest hypocrisy being that she herself (Adria Richards) made a joke about a guy stuffing a sock into his pants to make his penis look bigger, which is about as harmless as the original joke but criticising her for it is apparently deemed misogyny by some idiots on the internet.

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Originally Posted by Gare

I don't particularly like her, either. I watched her first video which was quite lol-tastic. And not in the good way.

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Prude posted a link to one of the videos and I got halfway through it before shaking my head and relegating her to the back of my mind as just one of another million idiots on the internet spouting drivel and thinking that they're actually being intelligent. Booourns.

Also I didn't read one word of Ray's posts. See above. :wacko:

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Originally Posted by Tassadar

You mean Dongle-gate? A guy made a joke about a dongle and she got really uppity about it, took a picture of the guys and posted it on her twitter, rather than directly saying something to them. The biggest hypocrisy being that she herself (Adria Richards) made a joke about a guy stuffing a sock into his pants to make his penis look bigger, which is about as harmless as the original joke but criticising her for it is apparently deemed misogyny by some idiots on the internet.

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Yeah, that's the one. I didn't know about the sock joke but it hardly surprises me at this point. :wacko:

But yeah, extremist feminists just sicken me. Simple as that.

Yes, lets all hate feminists together. :]

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Just looking at this makes me want to start a new game!

OKAY LETS :wacko:

Nah, I'd rather just talk about video games and tentacle porn as usual. Same old same old!

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Originally Posted by Gare

OKAY LETS :wacko:

Nah, I'd rather just talk about video games and tentacle porn as usual. Same old same old!

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:wacko:

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The !BYTE line is held high. This puts the ROM chip into "word" mode,
where data is accessed 16 bits at a time.

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WERD! :wacko:

No one else was entertained by that ... were they? :(

:<3:

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Originally Posted by Jazzmarazz

WERD! :wacko:

No one else was entertained by that ... were they? :(

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I has a hard!

Visitor message shouldn't have character limits. When I wanna talk off someone's ear, I always have to chop it into pieces...:(

I know its a commercial, but the person being "Interviewed" for his useage with Luminosity is sooooooo insincere and lacking in candidness. I don't believe that he is happy with the service! I believe that he was a paid spokesperson with professional training...
Screw him and his scripted opinions. >:

...Im just upset that he interrupted my Pandora stream. I am sorry paid spokesperson.

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...Im just upset that he interrupted my Pandora stream. I am sorry paid spokesperson.

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The feels.
I know them.

burp

Okay I hope this rice pudding recipe is better.

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Originally Posted by Prude

Okay I hope this rice pudding recipe is better.

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BLECH!

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Originally Posted by Prude

Okay I hope this rice pudding recipe is better.

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Tapioca Puddin :drool:

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Originally Posted by God of Battle

Tapioca Puddin :drool:

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BLECH!

You don't like them!! Neither does Ray actually. What a waste. :wacko:

I'm playing more of the game! It's so pretty!

Actually, this recipe wasn't right either. It called for lemon zest. That sounded good but it wasn't quite right!

This is sodding annoying. I'm missing one gate and one billboard on NFS most wanted :( On the other hand, I got a sweet 327 yard jump just now.

Oh yeah, found the last billboard :D

I got 328 :ignore:

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Originally Posted by Prude

Okay I hope this rice pudding recipe is better.

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Portuguese rice pudding rules!
/leaves

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Originally Posted by Jazzmarazz

Visitor message shouldn't have character limits. When I wanna talk off someone's ear, I always have to chop it into pieces...:(

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I always thought that too. Although you don't have limits in a PM. ;P Still, that poor, poor person. Whoever they may be. :wacko:

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Originally Posted by Prude

Okay I hope this rice pudding recipe is better.

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I want black rice pudding. :drool:

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Originally Posted by Zaladane

I got 328 :ignore:

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grr. :P

Anyone playing NFS most wanted? I need a couple of people added so I can get a trophy for 5 friends playing.

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Originally Posted by King

Portuguese rice pudding rules!

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Must.
Find.
Way.
To.
Portugal.

Drag would be proud of me. I'm finally getting back into expanding my NES collection. :]

Test.