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Yeah, good luck with that. You should probably just study computer science and then try to matriculate into a game program at a school if that's what you want to do. What kind of University are you going to? I don't know anyone who offers a Bachelor's in game design except tech schools like Fullsail and whatnot.... and those aren't Bachelor's degrees.
It's northumbria university in Newcastle, UK. I don't know about US but in UK almost all universities offer it. In US I think digipen offers even PhD on game dev (or maybe just masters I dont remember well) Quite a lot of universities in canada offer game dev as well. It's kinda weird that's despite the fact that it's so prevalent employers still don't consider them worthy. :\
I actually am considering changing my course tbh, but I've already studied this for a year and paid quite a lot for it too, I'm not exactly sure if it's the right move.
Bachelor of Design (Games) is available here at one uni not far from me (haven't checked nationwide), it seems odd that unis in the US don't offer it. Are you sure about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlavaFlave
Not many man - UCLA I think has a Bachelors in game design, but most everything else here in the states is only a tech degree in game design, typically meaning a 2 year program. In other words an associates degree, which is the same as attending a junior college for 2 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
Frankly, it seems to be one of those things that's frowned upon among major universities.... if you want to break into the game field the best route seems to be graphic design, a tech school degree or computer science. If you want to get higher than that then you can probably minor in business administration and pretty much flunk out of college and become a CEO of Activision or EA, since those rubes don't seem to know anything about the business :trollface:
well in UK bachelors is 3 years not 4, so maybe they're more comfortable offering 3 year bachelors in game dev than 4 year ones lol
Actually, nevermind. In Canada it's also 4 but still lot of universities offer it. US university peasants are just afraid of glorious game dev studying master race. :awesome:
Yeah it's 3 years here for Bachelor of Design. There are other degrees that are computer science/game design combos, if you understand what I mean.
Don't know much about the US education system but I think it's pretty different from what we have here :thot:
You do 6 years of high school (which are mostly colleges, both public and private) then you go to tertiary. Some people are 18 in their final year of high school, but plenty aren't (like I turned 18 the year after I finished high school).
Most Bachelor degrees are 3 years iirc, maybe some are 4. It's also possible some stuff has changed a bit in the last 2 decades :wacko: but yeah that Bachelor of Design I mentioned is 3 years full time.
My bachelors is actually 4 years, but one year is optional internship which for now seems unlikely to acquire.
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what's fairy bread?Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
what's fairy bread?Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
:google:Quote:
Originally Posted by maverickgirlhunterZ492
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_bread
I guess its a load of bread dyed in a rainbow pattern :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by maverickgirlhunterZ492
Edit: close enough :lol
Oh.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
Pretty sure the gay pride flag has only been around since the mid 70's...fairy bread has been around longer than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gobby
Rainbow tie dyes were not a symbol of faggotry back in the 70s, it was a hippy thing, freedom of expression.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
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Originally Posted by deadlegion
well real rainbows are older both so nyah:OMG:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gobby
Fairy bread isn't about hippies either :lol more theories? :wacko:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gobby
Agree. I love jelly/jams but never really have pb&j much if at all anymore. I also don't understand the obsession people have with milk.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
Probably, I'm too lazy to google it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlavaFlave
Milk is awesome, I don't drink gallons of it but life without it would suck. Need it for coffee and drinking chocolate.
Soy milk is just bleh.
Milk in your coffee? PUSSY ALERT.
If you live in a climate like this you spend most of the year drinking coffee as a cold drink (and I use mostly milk).Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
In winter I drink it hot with much less milk, and I do drink it black if it's ground coffee. But most of the time I drink freeze dried instant variants. Moccona brand.
I'm just giving you shit I don't even really drink coffee.
O_OQuote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
Ya, you a white man pretending to be asian, constant tea drinking :chinese:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
:toss:
I'm really enjoying the Movie "Evening Rain".
I only drink coffee with milk, mostly because I rarely drink milk.
I drink coffee with tons of sugar cream and milk because my first coffee experience was uh a little intense. a friend made coffee for me when I was younger and I shit you not when I say it looked like frickin tar cuz that's how he liked it. I finished the cup so I wouldn't hurt his feelings but holy shit that pot could trap a dinosaur
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Originally Posted by maverickgirlhunterZ492
Just finished my first lecture on coursera, on physics. I took this one merely because I was interested in the topic (dark energy) and am quite impressed. Regardless of how employers view it, I think it's a good opportunity for anyone who wants to self study.
Sweaty bum bum :wacko:
MILK IS GOOD FOR YOU! DRINK IT! :0:Quote:
Originally Posted by gezegond
Preferably with a delicious Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich :wacko:
I know but I alwyas forget to drink. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Gobby
Drop the game design and pick up Comp Sci. You'll learn all the same programming languages and tricks (and then some) as you would in game design, but more of it will be transferrable to other applications. you can work for Blizzard with a CPS degree, but I don't see you working for Cicso with a game design degree. nothing against your opinion of course, but CPS will acquire you more in the long run.Quote:
Originally Posted by gezegond
Besides, I have a BS in Intforamtion Technology which is more of the hardware side of Computer Science, but I found that my interest is actually in Engineering. What that means is I use both IT and CPS skills every day, but much of what I need is self taught. I have designed a hardware/software synth from the ground up and to do so, I basically taught Electronic Engineering and C++. What I mean to say is that your degree will not teach you to make games, it will teach you to learn. you alone must teach yourself to make games.
Thats actually a thing? My dad made taht shit all the time. I thought he was stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlegion
PUSSY ALERT! *sips black coffee* PUSSY ALERT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
I could be their friend. :PPQuote:
Originally Posted by maverickgirlhunterZ492
I know for the traditional Sciences a PhD is something helps a lot but would a PhD in game design really benefit you as much as sheer programming experience, I get the impression for programming related professions it's more important to gain programming experience, even moreso than actual degrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by gezegond
Qualifications my arse. :wacko:
If I was a regular first world citizen I would just make games by myself and try my luck. But I can't. As with the comp sci, I know it's better in the long run, but I had my reasons for choosing game dev. Motivation, costs, etc. I find it difficult to decide and even if I did, there's no guarantee I would be able to change my course. Maybe I should contact one of my tutors in uni and ask for info/advice before the next semester begins. I just hope he answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzmarazz
I don't know much about PhD in games. The only thing I know about them is from this interesting article I read a while back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tassadar
There should be time for you to change courses. Drop/add period is a week long into each semester. Also, your entire ENTIRE first two years will be worthless. Seriously. :P All you're doing right now is racking up credit hours. An actual "major" requires less "major-related" hours than your Uni's other requirements. When I said "Drop the game design and pick up Comp Sci" I meant that all of the hours you have taken can be used for other requirements, but many can be used toward a Comp Sci major. During the first week back, or even the first day, locate an advisor in the Comp Sci Department and talk with them about the major. Bring a full list of all of the courses you have completed and your student-bulletin if you have one (the big book with a full list of courses from your first year). They can tell you which courses can fulfill which requirements and what else you need to fulfill to graduate in the same amount of time as for a game dev major.Quote:
Originally Posted by gezegond
One other thing you should take into mind is that when applying for jobs in the future, say five or ten years from now, the will ask you "what have you done since uni?" They will not ask you "what did you major in?" So if you want to pursue a job in programming, then learn programming. Don't fret over trivial titles such as Game dev major or CPS major. Just learn with all of your energy. learn everything related.
The way I see it with the circuit board I am designing is no one will help me. I need to calculate voltage differentials, amperage tolerances, divisions and fluctuation protection. I also have to consider the worst case scenarios such as someone plugging in a "hot" audio signal (0 to +10v) into my gate input (0 to +5v) inputs! however on the parallel, I have to program the microcontroller to understand everything and speak to the other devices on the board. I cannot afford to pay anyone to do any of this for me, so I have to read everything about everything and learn op amps, 3D-PCB CAD design, C++ language, gbz80 assembly language and even a little bit of DOS command prompt programming just for this one project. I have been working on it for more than a year and it has nothing to do with CPS or my IT major but it has been inspired by what I learned during those years. Inspire yourself and consider yourself alone. If you have friends, play nice but step on their heads when it comes time to move up.
tl;dr
1. Go see an advisor during his posted office hours. You may have to wait in line, but it will be worth it once you get that help. Just go in, bring a list of completed courses and ask what else you need to graduate.
2. use the Drop/add period to change up the course you are taking this semester.
3. Sign up for a class audit on campus. They will tell you "officially" what other courses and requirements that you need to fulfill to graduate in that field. It will be a few months before a slot opens for the audit, but I suggest doing this at least once before you are actually required to do it during your 3rd of 4th year.
I changed my major once or twice too.